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03-13-2012 , 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayer80
Myself and a few other people are headed down to Atlantic City in June.

On a Friday night around, let's say 8 p.m. or so, are there typically really huge wait times to play 1-2 NL Hold'em? Or are they pretty good at the Borgata about opening up new tables?
They are great at opening up new tables Fri/Sat nights for both 1/2 & 2/5. I have never waited more than 10 minutes for either.
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03-13-2012 , 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Chr1s
They are great at opening up new tables Fri/Sat nights for both 1/2 & 2/5. I have never waited more than 10 minutes for either.
Thanks for the quick response.

I assume their single-table SNGs must fill up fairly quickly as well then?
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03-13-2012 , 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerPlayer80
Myself and a few other people are headed down to Atlantic City in June.

On a Friday night around, let's say 8 p.m. or so, are there typically really huge wait times to play 1-2 NL Hold'em? Or are they pretty good at the Borgata about opening up new tables?
You're totally fine on that unless it's a big holiday and somehow all the tables fill up. There's like 85 tables so that doesn't happen much. When the BBJ was up to $600k over the holiday weekend a few weeks ago they got totally full, but that means it's great action so it balances out.

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I would bet that this room largesse is temporary and might be a preventive strike to gain player loyalty prior to the opening of Revel.
It's been going on for several months though. I've been getting comped rooms since like summer/fall at about the same clip. They'll probably need to continue it so people don't try to jump to Revel.

I think Revel will be cool to check out but it's a 37 table poker room and it's on the boardwalk which means I have to deal with boardwalk people (ugh). I think I'll stay at Borgata
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03-13-2012 , 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ralphie987
Please report back with the number of runners they had.

Good luck.
324 entered
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03-13-2012 , 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Brilliant27
324 entered
That's a big number.

As March has 5 Fridays and 5 Saturdays - I'm thinking that next months free roll can approach 400 runners - as I would think more people may have the required hours of play.
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03-13-2012 , 05:19 PM
How many people do they usually get for Friday's deep stack day tournaments?
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03-13-2012 , 06:05 PM
Is anyone interested in playing a low stakes (4-8) triple draw or mixed game including TD either tonight or tomorrow
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03-13-2012 , 07:05 PM
I love everything about the borgata, hotel and black card, comps etc, but this podium and 90%+ of the floor in the high limit section is horrible. I go to the podium, they dont look at you and continue to stare at their computer like they are busy, then after a minute I will say my game and give them my initials and they will look at me like Im the biggest inconvenience in the world and won't even say if I am on the list or not.

Downstairs when it first opened they had great customer service because they were fighting for the marketshare of poker in AC, now that they have it I guess they got comfortable and now the service sucks even worse than Foxwoods, which was impossible I thought.

Again I love Borgata as a whole and this is my only complaint, but maybe with Revel opening you would think they start to get their act together and fix some simple things like calling people when there are seats open and being cool to their players like they were downstairs.

Also this is just the floor and podium, the 2 hosts that work on the side of the podium are great and have been nothing but nice and courteous to me everytime I talked to them. The floor and podium should take lessons from them on customer service.
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03-13-2012 , 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by ZephyrSpy
Is anyone interested in playing a low stakes (4-8) triple draw or mixed game including TD either tonight or tomorrow
I can't swear that they won't, but they might not spread a triple draw game that low. I have never heard of any mixed game including any of the draw games going at any stakes lower than 7.50/15, and I think I heard someone speculate that they don't want to have any lower than that. There have been 4/8 and 5/10 HORSE games however.
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03-13-2012 , 08:52 PM
wow, this thread has moved forums since the last time i posted, how time flies...

i was at the borgata a couple weekends ago and had a fabulous time. i mostly played 5/10 NL, which was much softer than i expected. i maybe spent 10% of my time in tough games packed with regulars, but the rest was spent in games ranging from good to amazing. on saturday afternoon i sat in a game with one huge donator sitting on a 10k+ stack (no clue how he got it, but only took him around 4 hours to lose it), several weak-passives, a couple nits, and precisely one other competent player. i'm thrilled that live games are still this soft in 2012.

all weekend people talked non-stop about the BBJ, because it was over 600k and the highest ever or something. honestly, i found this pretty annoying, although i guess it is good for the games. of course, it got hit at a 1/2 NL table (straight flush over straight flush i heard... and the dealer had just started her shift).

i was very excited to learn new jersey has finally legalized several new poker variants, including badugi and 2-7 triple draw (and razz i think). despite having never played badugi for real money before (about 100 play money hands though), i decided to sit in a 40/80 mix game. one of my opponents got pretty annoyed when i patted a king badugi and he apparently broke a queen. lol, never break against the fish. i had a lot of fun though and considered myself fortunate to end up stuck only a few BB's.

i agree with stupid101 that the service in the high stakes section is very poor. i once stood at a podium for five minutes before finally being acknowledged, and then the woman didn't put in list despite saying she had, which i only found out later and had to rejoin the list with several new players in front of me. i also agree though that everything else about the borgata is great (except the chips).

finally, my last night there, i sat in a 2/5 plo game around 3 am. the game was short, got down to heads-up, but then grew back to 5 players before finally breaking around 6 am. i played bad and ran horrible until the last hand of the night:

i open for 20 on the button dark. the small blind makes it 50, i look down, find 9754ss, and call. the flop comes 986r. the SB leads 100, i make it 300, he shoves for ~400 more, and i call. he has T7xx. no problem though, turn 5, river 9. easy game.
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03-13-2012 , 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by chillrob
I can't swear that they won't, but they might not spread a triple draw game that low. I have never heard of any mixed game including any of the draw games going at any stakes lower than 7.50/15, and I think I heard someone speculate that they don't want to have any lower than that. There have been 4/8 and 5/10 HORSE games however.
I actually want to do this. I asked floor people and they said that theoretically they would do it if we had enough players and there were open tables.

Every dealer said they would absolutely hate me if I made them deal something like that since it's super slow and it screws up their tips.

Whether they actually would, I dunno. I've seen 4/8 mixed interest before on the bravo board so they probably would do it.
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03-13-2012 , 09:52 PM
When I asked for an interest list the guy asked me if I had other ppl or he didnt think it would ever go off. If theres enough ppl that want to start short ill be in for that
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03-14-2012 , 12:48 AM
Going to have to say +1 to the service in the high stakes room. Everyone back there knows me and i still get ignored sometimes. Its not uncommon for the girl at the computer to be having a conversation with the floor/a player/the phone or doing something else random for a while before acknowledging the person right in front of them.

The way to get around this is put your name on the list up front, at the tournament desk, or speak directly to the floor person
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03-14-2012 , 03:53 AM
Stan or someone else, can you tell me how many people the Friday Turbo @ 11PM usually draws on average? I've never played it and might try next Friday. Thanks.

Tyler
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03-14-2012 , 05:27 PM
does anybody know about the rule of showing cards? i havent been at the borgata for awhile but my friend told me its ok to show your hand face up with action behind in a multi-way pot...
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03-14-2012 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by just2nice4u
does anybody know about the rule of showing cards? i havent been at the borgata for awhile but my friend told me its ok to show your hand face up with action behind in a multi-way pot...

There's zero chance you can show a hand multi-way. I doubt they will kill the hand but you def get a warning. What the penalty is for a second time, I don't know.

Your question should be about heads up pots. I know PARX now allows it when heads up.
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03-14-2012 , 06:20 PM
pretty sure only casino in the area that DOESN'T allow you open your cards when heads up is sands.
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03-14-2012 , 06:36 PM
Anyone know if there are any plans/events/offers for next month to compete with the Revel opening?
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03-14-2012 , 07:06 PM
Ive always wanted to know how casinos was able to rate you and comp you? Ive asked numerous times and they advised Me its not if you win or lose but i recall when i lost about 2k i was comped fridays for like 3 months straight. I took Borgata up on the offer and played in 2 days over 20 hrs of Black Jack and won about 2,500 and the friday offers stopped... I recently went in Febuary stayed thursday and friday (friday rate was 99 still alot cheaper than normall but still not comped) i played 24 hourse of black jack in 2 days avg hand as per the Borgata was 46 dollars (i dont know how they get this number cause i could swear avg hand is over 60) and i asked for sat nite comps in the future i was advised that my "play" does not give me sat nites comps.. Pit boss advised me that its 10 hours a day avg hand of 100 in black jack, is it just me or do i see ALOT more people being comped that does not meet this criteria? I also hear people have hosts, for wht type of play do people have and get hosts? I always thought it was for the high roller 300+ a hand but talking to people at the table they advised me they had a host and sat was comped (they were playing 25 a hand) I'm very confused can someone elaborate for me- much appreciated
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03-14-2012 , 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Pippen33
There's zero chance you can show a hand multi-way. I doubt they will kill the hand but you def get a warning. What the penalty is for a second time, I don't know.

Your question should be about heads up pots. I know PARX now allows it when heads up.
You're not allowed to expose your hand heads up OR multiway. If you show HU you will get a warning and if you do it again your hand will be killed. I don't like that rule as it allows people to do it once per session or until they're called on it, but it's the rule.

I absolutely call people on this every time because people should know the rules and I don't like angleshooters.

Multiway is way, way worse and if you do it intentionally you might have issues with floor etc. They might not kill it, but you're going to get a very stern warning at least. I'm not sure exactly what happens because people usually won't do it in this case.

Also, you're not allowed to talk about the hand at all multiway. You can talk all you want HU though.
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03-14-2012 , 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by dem88boyz
Ive always wanted to know how casinos was able to rate you and comp you?
As far as I can tell Borgata has separate comp dollars and room specials. 1/2 is $1.50/hour and 2/5 is $2/hour. I don't know 5/10 and up b/c I don't play them. I don't know blackjack either. These comp dollars can be used for food, rooms etc.

They also have room offers which are independent from comp dollars. You burn your comp dollars as soon as you earn them and still get a free room if you play enough.

You can check online at theborgata.com if you set up an account with your card #. If you check now, I almost guarantee you'll have an offer for discounted rooms at least. If you play regularly you'll start to see free midweek rooms, and then if you play more and more often you'll get Fridays or Saturdays if you book early enough.

I haven't seen a mathematical explanation of how this works, but I assume their system has some kind of algorithm to determine what room offer you should get based on your play.

Alternatively (especially if it's a weekday) you could go there and ask them if they'll comp you a room if you play for a really long time. I've never tried it but I've been told it sometimes works. Not going to work on weekends tho - too busy.

It's not like the old days where you played once and they'd comp you a buffet or something. The big places have computer systems to predict how much you're worth to the casino and what kind of offers you should get. It seems to mostly be based on play over time and not like 1 session.
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03-14-2012 , 09:17 PM
i agree in a multi-way pot it is highly highly unethical because it can be collusion, the only reason i ask is i was playing a home game, and i got into an argument with a player saying that he called borgata before and your allowed to expose your hand... i agree n a headsup situation however in this specific instance, it was in a multi-way pot with a player behind to act, a friend who was in the same game went down to borg and supposedly asked a floorman and said it was ok, it'll be great if stan can give us borgata official ruling, i was willing to make a very big wager with this guy that in a multi-way pot its not allowed
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03-14-2012 , 09:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerIsFrustrating
You're not allowed to expose your hand heads up OR multiway. If you show HU you will get a warning and if you do it again your hand will be killed. I don't like that rule as it allows people to do it once per session or until they're called on it, but it's the rule.

I absolutely call people on this every time because people should know the rules and I don't like angleshooters.

Multiway is way, way worse and if you do it intentionally you might have issues with floor etc. They might not kill it, but you're going to get a very stern warning at least. I'm not sure exactly what happens because people usually won't do it in this case.

Also, you're not allowed to talk about the hand at all multiway. You can talk all you want HU though.
You're right you're not allowed to expose it either HU or multiway, but you're going to get 86ed before they kill your hand for showing it.
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03-14-2012 , 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by PokerIsFrustrating
As far as I can tell Borgata has separate comp dollars and room specials. 1/2 is $1.50/hour and 2/5 is $2/hour. I don't know 5/10 and up b/c I don't play them. I don't know blackjack either. These comp dollars can be used for food, rooms etc.

They also have room offers which are independent from comp dollars. You burn your comp dollars as soon as you earn them and still get a free room if you play enough.

You can check online at theborgata.com if you set up an account with your card #. If you check now, I almost guarantee you'll have an offer for discounted rooms at least. If you play regularly you'll start to see free midweek rooms, and then if you play more and more often you'll get Fridays or Saturdays if you book early enough.

I haven't seen a mathematical explanation of how this works, but I assume their system has some kind of algorithm to determine what room offer you should get based on your play.

Alternatively (especially if it's a weekday) you could go there and ask them if they'll comp you a room if you play for a really long time. I've never tried it but I've been told it sometimes works. Not going to work on weekends tho - too busy.

It's not like the old days where you played once and they'd comp you a buffet or something. The big places have computer systems to predict how much you're worth to the casino and what kind of offers you should get. It seems to mostly be based on play over time and not like 1 session.
I actually do have an acct online and i check every day (yea ima degen like that) i have played at the borgata about 6x (actually funny 1st time i ever went there was about a year ago i used to only play at the trop and Harrahs) at the borgata i always get sunday- thursday comped, free buffet, free admission to club Mix, Match play of 150 but still NO COMPS ON WEEKENDS, i know they have to see how much im worth but if a player is playing that much avg 12 hrs a day gambling and avg bet is 50 1 shoot i can easily be down 1k and still dont understand how i get no weekend comps.... just wanted to know if there is a system or if its really about if you win or lose because like i said in my prior post when i lose money i had fridays comped when i won they took friday comps away and i have never had comps on Saturday fyi i need like 300 pts by May 13th to be black card label (i know if i become blk card member most likely would get it but i dont live that close that i can go to AC more than i do- this is only in regards to me playing black jack
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03-14-2012 , 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by dem88boyz
I actually do have an acct online and i check every day (yea ima degen like that) i have played at the borgata about 6x (actually funny 1st time i ever went there was about a year ago i used to only play at the trop and Harrahs) at the borgata i always get sunday- thursday comped, free buffet, free admission to club Mix, Match play of 150 but still NO COMPS ON WEEKENDS, i know they have to see how much im worth but if a player is playing that much avg 12 hrs a day gambling and avg bet is 50 1 shoot i can easily be down 1k and still dont understand how i get no weekend comps.... just wanted to know if there is a system or if its really about if you win or lose because like i said in my prior post when i lose money i had fridays comped when i won they took friday comps away and i have never had comps on Saturday fyi i need like 300 pts by May 13th to be black card label (i know if i become blk card member most likely would get it but i dont live that close that i can go to AC more than i do- this is only in regards to me playing black jack
This is speculation, but I've compared comps with some other players, and we think that your form of comps is based on how far away your home address is. So if you live really far away, they give you more rooms on more days of the week and little other stuff. If you live closer, they assume you don't need rooms as badly, so they start giving you buffets, show tickets, match play, etc. instead of weekend rooms.
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