Getting a good position is way more important than one blind. But you have to be careful about chainsg an unluck seat hopper.

What does this have to do with me? Am I known as a seat moving angle shooter or something?

Of course not, it's bec of the note under my reply.

All: I have to plead temporary insanity as the reason for my $25 reward for being caught posting between 3 and 10 pm Arizona time. I am hereby canceling the promotion unless anybody has a strong objection. FWIW, I did pay out $25 to pope who, graciously, refused to accept another $25.

I can't do it, I'm hooked on this forum.

What was the intent of the promotion again?

To burn money.

To stop me from posting while playing which I think is -EV although the post above was made from home. I'm considering starting a B&M thread regarding the use of electronic devices and their effect on the game.

I dealt a 40 game the other night and literally 7 of the 9 players were poking around on their iPhones playing a word game the entire down. I have to say they did pretty well staying on top of the action for the most part. the 20 game can be just as bad sometimes.

It's called Words with Friends. If I was a bad player, and I saw 7 of my opponents playing that game, I would understand they aren't here for the fun of the game since they need to play another game to keep them entertained, so I would quickly realize they are here to take my money and I would go find a more fun game.

What poor social skills IMO. Make the game fun for the people who you want there (which I think I get an above average grade at, but I also don't have to spend 40 hours a week playing poker)

*shrug*

I play games on my phone between hands, but I'm not a grinder -- just a guy who gets bored easily if I don't have something to do. [Yes, I know, watch my opponents, blah blah...]

I get irate if I forget my Ipod. There's plenty of dead time in poker where you aren't getting anything and your read on the table isn't changing.

More and more ppl are sitting w/ tablets (esp iPads) and reading books or watching movies/TV shows and w/e else. I already have internet addiction w/ my phone. I've been wanting an iPad but I'm not going to get one.

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The shoot-outs appear to be getting more popular since I heard a couple started during the day shift. Any number cruncher here that can say if it's profitable w/ $15 juice and a $5 dealer add-on?

I find your criticisms amusing. You can be very engaging in person, but often you are quietly listening to music at the table. And on the internet, well, let's just say your jokes often have contextual issues that cause them and you to be frequently misunderstood.

Most of the players who play Words With Friends and other games at the table in the 40 can be very gregarious and engaging when it's appropriate. While it's important not to be a jerk, and not to ignore chatty players, going overboard is just as bad as ignoring people. Some players find being it irritating when they aren't left alone to play poker.

The 40 regs play with the same people every day to a much higher extent than any game other than the 75 or maybe the 5-10, they all know each other very well and get along fine. Sometimes you just run out of new and interesting discussion topics when you've played almost every day with someone for months on end. And it's variable, some times the table conversation is lush and profane, somedays sparse, but I don't think quiet games are hurting interest in and enjoyment of the 40 at all.

Thank god for smartphones and iPads. They take the tedium out of live poker for many, many players.

You should apply for a Federal grant to conduct a study. They'll probably give you a hundred grand.

Federal? I won't settle for less than $1MM.

Here comes my B&M thread.

i play online best tournaments are Big Stack $330 and Bounty $240 and then the Tues and Wed nightly for $140 each those play lot like 45 mans on FTP. Dont bother with last saturday of the month

Our 3/5 table broke but I wanted to chill in the suckhole of 8/16. Instead of drawing a card I asked to be on the bottom of the broken game list. I was called in ten minutes before the others, they had put me on top. I caught a very good run of cards in that seat so I won't complain.

The karma swung back next time. Our 8/16 was breaking so I asked the desk for the 2/3 game I wanted. A newish reg girl from the 8/16 simply walked over to the table and took that seat, floor declined my appeal.

lol table breakaments.

the most important reason for the casino to have the rules fair and even for all is that if not it creates dissatisfaction with the room. sooner or later a new place opens and you can be sure if it is a good play to play all the dissatisfied players will head over there.

howard as far as how much it costs you be play with blind movers you can figure it out for your game. but just a rough approximation is.
say for every ten dollars it costs in blinds for a round.
moving toward the button might make you maybe five bucks depending on the game.
so a single player might lose 60 cents to the moving player. it happens to you 6 times a day or more. thats 4 bucks a day times 300 days a year if you play that much. there is a 1000 right there, and more or less depending on amount of blinds , amount of movers, amount of cost to you for each mover etc.

the funny thing(not so funny) is that all the leaks you may have that arent playing ones that cost you money may add up enough to make a person a losing player from a winner.

Thanks for the analysis, Ray. Lobbying against it is no use, though.

then you have the option of getting alot of others to lobby with you. or just start doing it yourself each time it is profitable. if the floor claims you are abusing the rule explain you are not and just doing it once for each time someone does it to you.

another thing that worked where i used to play is the regulars just stopped putting in their blinds when someone moved until the blind got to him. soon the game slowed and the house adjusted the rule.

Howard, you have been the primary advocate for the room management here. If they ever read threads like this and see that you agree with them all the time, of course it's not going to do any good. If you and others mention it to the floors and managers often enough, it may do some good. Especially when CAZ is the outlier. What they are doing is NOT the norm.

Seriously, if they change the rule to no free hands for anyone, people might grumble for a little while, but then they'll be used to it. Heck, the last time I played at my local room, a guy moved 3 away from the button, and not only did he not mind getting no free hands, but he posted when he moved!

There you go!

They could compromise with the rhyming rule 3 is free, 4 pay more

almost all places allow either two free seats away for your advantage. or they have you move and wait for the blinds or wait until the same position as you left arrives. or you post like everyone else does.

if you relate it to seven card stud. you ante every hand you want to play. in holdem you ante for the whole round. that is what the blinds do.

in stud you dont get to not ante and get a hand so why do you get one in holdem.
your blind entitles you to only the number of hands in that round as are players seated.
when you move you get free hands at the expense of the other players.

if the house wants to give free hands so it helps the game in their mind let them put in the blinds for the player