The rule has always been 1 hour. I suspect the new manager will change it to your verbal declaration of why you left the first time.

Witnessed an interesting 'verbal is binding' hand today. There was a player sitting with $28 in chips (2/3), gives $80 to a chip runner before the particular hand stared, so he has $28 in front with $80 behind. Any ways, min raised hand 6 ways, PFR (immediately to the right of this player) cbets $20, this guy grabs the $22 he has in front of him and says 'All-In' and I dont recall if he caught himself or someone else pointed out the fact that he had $80 behind. Dealer stops the hand and calls the floor. Floor comes over and rules that he is all-in for the full $108. Interesting thing is that PFR was allowed to take back his cbet in all the confusion. Im new to live poker, but shouldn't his cbet stand? The player who went 'All-In' ended up getting snapped off and stacked by another player.

No way the guy should get back his $20 bet.

i cant believe that was the ruling. even the most incompetent floor person wouldnt do that. although i never put it past anyone making a ruling. only way that it might be appropriate is if someone called behind the verbal all in, and also before the hand started the dealer didnt verbally so everyone could hear it, declare he was 80 behind.

well i take that back. i can see it if the dealer didnt announce it and the player continued his bet not knowing that there was money behind. then it could happen.
but then the dealer maybe should be given a few days off unless the player himself didnt announce it and then it should have been ruled the money dosent play.

so more info is needed.

One thing for sure is they have the worst chairs in the industry.
charge for bottle water.
dirty bathrooms.

20 OE, it's a kill, dealer does not announce but 2 seat puts it out. Player UTG puts out 8 chips. I'm next to act and ask him his intention, he says raise and dealer calls string. I ask who called string, and am informed dealers are now required to call strings.

I object since there was no action behind (I had folded only after he stated his intention to raise) and floor rules string even though it was entirely his action at the time. Way to go CAZ, take a bad rule, make it even worse.

Tip your dealers well so they "miss" when you string, while you get to chop up new playees and tourists. Friendly poker.

Indeed, just as I expected, the first time I had a dealer called string under the new rule was when villain donked into my nuts. It's impossible to play the hand correctly in that situation.

Ok it's been some time now since the room has had the direction of a new boss, so I think it's fair to say that it's well past time to get the tournament payout structure in line with the rest of the live poker world.

The Venetian DeepStacks have always had good payout structures, so how something along those lines hasn't been incorporated into the TSR tourneys (at least the big Saturday tourneys) is kind of puzzling.

If 365 people play a tournament, the top 10% should be ITM.

If 65 people play a tournament, they will pay 10 players. If 365 people play a tournament they will pay 30 players. Does not compute.

Also, If 365 people play a tournament, what sense does it make to have spots 11-30 all paid relatively the same amount? **spoiler** None.

By paying the top 10% (at least) you are doing a great thing to the poker economy of the room. Paying out less than 10% (specifically on the bigger buy in tourneys) is NOT a good thing for the poker economy of the room.

I'm not even going to discuss why the flat payout structures also are bad for the room and players playing them (encourages more chops so perhaps the TDs like it so they can go home earlier), but suffice it to say that paying 30th two times their initial buy in back out of 365 players, and the final table bubble aka 11th place, gets only three times their initial buy in back, makes no sense.

All good tournament payout structures have payjumps along the way, so in field sizes of 300-400 players, there should never be that small a payjump between 30th and 11th place.

Feels like this is just a broken record skipping and saying the same thing over and over, but as someone who enjoys playing the bigger tournaments, it would sure be nice to have ours at TSR be as motivating to play for all player types as any other larger field venues found around the country/world.

They take out so much for the house, plus dealerr apprication of 10% or more. Then want winning playes to kick in more tip thats is a double tip. When are tourney placers going to learn. Stop playing or they just keep taking more. Now also take out money for the free roll tourney. That is not a free roll you payed for it. I love the $5.00 for Keno. Lol

So the day tourney changes New year to $125?
$5 set aside and T10000 starting.
And is it no dealer add-on at table?

Night goes up to $145 $5 aside T10000 no dealer add-on?
The $300 goes to $345 with only T13000, hmm chip equity there?

If these changes are in fact accurate then definitely a step in the right direction to get rid of the cash at the table part. Curious what the actual rake is on those buy ins tho.

Cash on the table is the only clearity in the rake breakdown you get as a player there. I agree I don't like it but if it's taken away then show the breakdown.
$145 $5 aside and if it's $115 in the prizepool
$10 dealer pool $3 floor $12 drop
Whatever it is just put it out there for the players. Don't see why room doesn't see this as positively open, given history.
They put out that $5 is held for a future events probably because it's a drop regulation.

I find it ironic that i have to argue with a dealer almost everyday about posting my kill that they missed, yet they are now also tasked with running off rec players by calling string bets. Tonight i win in SB and big pot on button as player raises in front of me i realize should have posted kill, when i say this dealer argues with me. I end up posting next hand despite dealer.

when the kills are so frequently missed it makes the string raise lottery even more random and unfair.

In town for the weekend looking to play 5-10nlhe or 20-40 - 50-100 lhe or mix does this run on Friday or Saturday night?

5-10nlhe has been running a bunch on weekends lately so chances are good you will be able to find a game, and you will have your pick of 20-40lhe thru 40-80 mix pretty much all day/night both days!

GL!

wow this is good news maybe I can stop driving to vegas .hopefully the levels are at least 30 minutes.Now if they can change that end of month garbage tourney I can go back to playing at CA again !

I went and picked up the new structure sheets and sorry to say that daily,nightly and end of month are still bad structures .Hopefully the new glendale casino will come to the rescue for us with a good daily tourney.Something like the aria daily shouldnt be so much to ask for.Because people have been supporting CA/TSR for years and years they figure they do not need to change anything.Giving a few more starting chips raising the buy in and keep 20 min levels is crap.

I heard two more versions of who shows first at showdown after an all in on the turn. Unfortunately neither one was Bettor shows the caller.

Yes it's still crap.

The beauty of a tourney like the end of month tourney is that it has a fantastic prize pool and all the 'regs' who get deep spend so much time complaining about their short stacks and the bad structure and will stop at nothing to do chops that it makes finding spots to shove and get chips so easy. If you can run ok and steal some and perhaps win a flip or 2 ITM you are in full control of any 'negotiations' at the final table, and can let ICM dictate your decisions. You can really scoop up some good equity if you have a bigger or equal stack then most, should you decide to do some sort of deal. (Ex getting better than 3rd place $ while 10 handed).

If you find yourself in the 3-4BB range, you can also scoop up added equity because the 6-7+BBstacks are still complaining about their stacks and the structure and are still pushing for a deal.

The overall structures of the tournaments are terrible. That's the bottom line. The payout structures also suck.

Yeah well until people STOP playing tournaments, they have no reason to stop what they're doing. If they ran the Aria $125 at TSR, I would play it 3-4 times a week.

[name removed] said they currently do not run multi-day tournaments because they only have 1 set of tournament chips. This IMO shouldn't matter because Sunday they never run tournaments anyway. I would run once a month a tournament just like the Venetian DSE...$400 buy in with a great structure and resume the final table or 18 players on Sunday afternoon.

There was a coyote wandering around the parking lot at 4am this morning. He looked hungry.

Well that's when they hunt. He probably wasn't looking for a stake.

What a joke. Like they can't afford another set of tournament chips! Looking forward to the new casino opening in Glendale in 2016. I have heard several dealers say they are looking forward to it also.