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02-12-2013 , 05:07 AM
Dont play KJ/QJ in UTG1 imo.
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02-12-2013 , 05:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bushell
Dont play KJ/QJ in UTG1 imo.
I like to think Im good enough post flop to be able to play those two hands at a profit from EP. QJs Im opening most of the time but KJ is going to be very table dependent and if theres a fish or two at the table then It has to be an open.

I guess its basically an automatic process that you should go through every hand. Can I open this hand profitably given my position and other players at the table. Sometimes that is going to mean opening ATo UTG and sometimes its going to mean folding AQo UTG.
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02-12-2013 , 06:09 AM
KJs fold on river is mindblowing.. you have great discipline to do this. (how many bis i lost in this spot omg..) gratz!
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02-12-2013 , 06:29 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vrbik
KJs fold on river is mindblowing.. you have great discipline to do this. (how many bis i lost in this spot omg..) gratz!
Thanks, wish I could just stop bluffing in bad spots now.

I think I almost prefer check/call on the river though. Im not sure I get called by worse if I bet, maybe JQ but other stuff he can probably fold. I just get the feeling he was trapping and I cant ever see him raising worse on the river he dosnt really look like that villain type.
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02-12-2013 , 11:01 AM
Just going to see if I can tempt fate again here. After a pretty poor last few days I have managed to get myself back to my peak point for the month. Im pretty happy with how I am playing and actually think I could be improving in some spots. I do however have some of the same old leaks and those are going to be the hardest ones to rid myself of.

Anyway games are pretty good today and heres a few of the hands:-

Villain is 56/13 obvious whale. I think on the turn he is on some kind of draw or weak hand that he might just call a raise with. Once he re-raises I think its close to a fold but he lets me off on the river.

    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16011601

    BTN: $50.16 (100.3 bb)
    SB: $96.68 (193.4 bb)
    BB: $51.33 (102.7 bb)
    UTG+1: $53.55 (107.1 bb)
    UTG+2: $135.90 (271.8 bb)
    Hero (MP1): $68.91 (137.8 bb)
    MP2: $108.88 (217.8 bb)
    MP3: $96.70 (193.4 bb)
    CO: $57.55 (115.1 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q J
    2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 5 folds, BB calls $1

    Flop: ($3.25) 2 T J (2 players)
    BB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

    Turn: ($6.25) J (2 players)
    BB bets $2.50, Hero raises to $7, BB raises to $11.50, Hero calls $4.50

    River: ($29.25) 6 (2 players)
    BB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50

    Spoiler:
    Results: $32.25 pot ($1.45 rake)
    Final Board: 2 T J J 6
    BB showed J A and won $30.80 ($14.80 net)
    Hero mucked Q J and lost (-$16 net)



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    Villain in this one is a nit and again I convince myself he is slow playing a big hand because he took ages to call. Probably saved money by not betting the turn but pretty sure I played it pretty bad.

      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16011611

      BTN: $53.67 (107.3 bb)
      SB: $31.50 (63 bb)
      BB: $60.08 (120.2 bb)
      Hero (UTG+1): $77.64 (155.3 bb)
      UTG+2: $37.43 (74.9 bb)
      MP1: $61.78 (123.6 bb)
      MP2: $92.50 (185 bb)
      MP3: $96.43 (192.9 bb)
      CO: $152.58 (305.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A A
      Hero raises to $1.50, UTG+2 folds, MP1 calls $1.50, MP2 calls $1.50, 5 folds

      Flop: ($5.25) 8 6 6 (3 players)
      Hero bets $3, MP1 calls $3, MP2 folds

      Turn: ($11.25) 3 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 checks

      River: ($11.25) 9 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $7, Hero calls $7

      Spoiler:
      Results: $25.25 pot ($1.14 rake)
      Final Board: 8 6 6 3 9
      Hero mucked A A and lost (-$11.50 net)
      MP1 showed 9 9 and won $24.11 ($12.61 net)



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      Sweet hand against a short stacker. His range is pretty strong when he flats me pre. Im almost in the habit of not putting money in the pot when they flat me because they will raise the flop a ton because they have usually called with a big hand.


        Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16011621

        BTN: $29.13 (58.3 bb)
        SB: $28.36 (56.7 bb)
        BB: $55.95 (111.9 bb)
        UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
        Hero (UTG+2): $50 (100 bb)
        MP1: $25 (50 bb)
        MP2: $18.03 (36.1 bb)
        MP3: $46.25 (92.5 bb)
        CO: $24.75 (49.5 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 3 3
        UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, MP1 calls $1.50, 4 folds, SB calls $1.25, BB folds

        Flop: ($5) 2 3 K (3 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, MP1 calls $2.50, SB folds

        Turn: ($10) 4 (2 players)
        Hero bets $7.75, MP1 calls $7.75

        River: ($25.50) 7 (2 players)
        Hero bets $18, MP1 calls $13.25 and is all-in

        Spoiler:
        Results: $52 pot ($2.34 rake)
        Final Board: 2 3 K 4 7
        Hero showed 3 3 and won $49.66 ($24.66 net)
        MP1 showed A K and lost (-$25 net)



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        02-12-2013 , 11:28 AM
        how are the 50nl games anyway?

        QJs: probs try to find a fold or at least fold river but as played obv we cant fold river. Turn is a really gay spot tho

        AA: i like your line a lot, im not sure why you think you played it bad. only thing i might do different is b/f river myself.

        33: nice sizing, nh.

        all imo ofc, gl!
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        02-12-2013 , 12:05 PM
        Welcome back, how you managed to get the ban lifted? How is poker going?

        NL50 dosnt seem much different to NL25 to be honest and I am probably over adjusting to opponents and giving them too much credit for thinking.

        Made the switch to Zoom now as well, I figure if I can do all right on it then the slight drop that I think I can expect in WR will be made up for in volume. I were managing about 10-15K hands a month but last month I managed 20K and then this month Ive played 17K already. Got a lot of bad habits I need to break though.
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        02-12-2013 , 12:19 PM
        thanks, well i emailed mat sklansky after i got banned but didnt get a reply, was just browsing today when i saw i wasnt banned anymore, logged in and voila. I'm assuming they got around to reviewing it and realised i didnt deserve a ban . Havent had an email/message so im not entirely sure tho.

        pokers kinda meh, funny your switching to zoom just as im trying to get out of it. ill be interestd to see how u find it tho.

        glgl
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        02-12-2013 , 01:22 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by MartL
        Just going to see if I can tempt fate again here. After a pretty poor last few days I have managed to get myself back to my peak point for the month. Im pretty happy with how I am playing and actually think I could be improving in some spots. I do however have some of the same old leaks and those are going to be the hardest ones to rid myself of.
        Hahahahaha worked again. Just played a session and it was pretty straight forward but just a slow drain on my money. Tilt breaker kicked in and I got KK all in on my last hand.........against AA again lol.

        Other biggest hand apart from that:-


        Villain is playing 10/8 and I bet the flop expecting to get raised. That happens and we get it in but how on earth does he show up with a better FD and the hand he had lol

          Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16011971

          BTN: $62.88 (125.8 bb)
          SB: $50 (100 bb)
          BB: $53.87 (107.7 bb)
          UTG+1: $56.23 (112.5 bb)
          UTG+2: $52.25 (104.5 bb)
          Hero (MP1): $52.33 (104.7 bb)
          MP2: $52.26 (104.5 bb)
          MP3: $36.92 (73.8 bb)
          CO: $76.05 (152.1 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 6 7
          2 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, MP2 folds, MP3 calls $1.50, 4 folds

          Flop: ($3.75) 2 4 8 (2 players)
          Hero bets $2.25, MP3 raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $50.83 and is all-in, MP3 calls $29.92 and is all-in

          Turn: ($74.59) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)
          River: ($74.59) 3 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: $74.59 pot ($2.50 rake)
          Final Board: 2 4 8 K 3
          Hero showed 6 7 and won $0.00 (-$36.92 net)
          MP3 showed 8 A and won $72.09 ($35.17 net)



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          500 hand session and this is the biggest winning hand:-

          When I hit 2 outs I always like to get paid off big style lol

            Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16011981

            BTN: $58.75 (117.5 bb)
            SB: $125.09 (250.2 bb)
            BB: $49.25 (98.5 bb)
            Hero (UTG+1): $50.75 (101.5 bb)
            UTG+2: $25 (50 bb)
            MP1: $27.25 (54.5 bb)
            MP2: $25 (50 bb)
            MP3: $46.50 (93 bb)
            CO: $39.37 (78.7 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 8 8
            Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, MP3 calls $1.50, 4 folds

            Flop: ($3.75) 3 6 6 (2 players)
            Hero bets $2.25, MP3 calls $2.25

            Turn: ($8.25) A (2 players)
            Hero checks, MP3 checks

            River: ($8.25) 8 (2 players)
            Hero bets $4, MP3 folds

            Spoiler:
            Results: $8.25 pot ($0.37 rake)
            Final Board: 3 6 6 A 8
            Hero mucked 8 8 and won $7.88 ($4.13 net)
            MP3 mucked and lost (-$3.75 net)



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            02-12-2013 , 02:44 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by MartL
            I like to think Im good enough post flop to be able to play those two hands at a profit from EP. QJs Im opening most of the time but KJ is going to be very table dependent and if theres a fish or two at the table then It has to be an open.

            I guess its basically an automatic process that you should go through every hand. Can I open this hand profitably given my position and other players at the table. Sometimes that is going to mean opening ATo UTG and sometimes its going to mean folding AQo UTG.
            But playing Zoom, isn't it better to default to playing hand ranges from EP nearly as if in a vacuum? Are you profitable according to HEM/PT opening KJs in UTG+1?
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            02-12-2013 , 05:12 PM
            Everything seems to be conspiring against me. People are been set up in positions where I just cant help but pay them off yet it dosnt seem to work the other way around.

            Villain 20/16 9.83bet fold to 3bet of 17. So I know when I 3bet him that theres a good chance that he will 4bet me. I have already decided making the 3bet that I will shove if he does.

              Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16012421

              BTN: $119.12 (238.2 bb)
              SB: $25.39 (50.8 bb)
              Hero (BB): $50 (100 bb)
              UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
              UTG+2: $107.01 (214 bb)
              MP1: $32.69 (65.4 bb)
              MP2: $70.19 (140.4 bb)
              MP3: $98.24 (196.5 bb)
              CO: $53.30 (106.6 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BB with 2 A
              5 folds, CO raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, CO raises to $11.50, Hero raises to $50 and is all-in, CO calls $38.50

              Flop: ($100.25) T 8 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
              Turn: ($100.25) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
              River: ($100.25) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

              Spoiler:
              Results: $100.25 pot ($2.50 rake)
              Final Board: T 8 6 5 7
              Hero showed 2 A and lost (-$50 net)
              CO showed A A and won $97.75 ($47.75 net)



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              .......and once again I run in to Aces.

              I certainly know how to pick my spots dont I. It will turn around though wont it.............Yeah right when was the last time I called with AA/KK and say someone not have QQ+/AK lol
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              02-12-2013 , 05:15 PM
              Lol abut right. Tilt breaker has now kicked in after this hand, once again set up perfect for the villain.


                Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16012441

                BTN: $59.93 (119.9 bb)
                SB: $66.10 (132.2 bb)
                BB: $26.93 (53.9 bb)
                UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
                UTG+2: $38.25 (76.5 bb)
                MP1: $44.84 (89.7 bb)
                MP2: $104.15 (208.3 bb)
                Hero (MP3): $52.11 (104.2 bb)
                CO: $54.65 (109.3 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A A
                4 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

                Flop: ($3.25) 6 4 3 (2 players)
                BB bets $1, Hero raises to $4, BB calls $3

                Turn: ($11.25) 8 (2 players)
                BB bets $3.50, Hero raises to $46.61 and is all-in, BB calls $17.93 and is all-in

                River: ($54.11) K (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                Spoiler:
                Results: $54.11 pot ($2.43 rake)
                Final Board: 6 4 3 8 K
                BB showed 7 5 and won $51.68 ($24.75 net)
                Hero showed A A and lost (-$26.93 net)



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                What a piss take.
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                02-12-2013 , 05:33 PM
                Just having a look at my hands where the villain has 4bet and we have got to SD. Here is what they have shown up with:-

                AA - 7 Times.
                KK - 3 Times
                QQ - 4 Times
                JJ - 2 Times
                AK - 4 Times
                AQ - 1 Time
                77 - 1 Time

                Worth noting the 77/AQ/JJ and a couple of the AK hands were against short stackers the rest were against guys with nearly 100bb or more. A lot of the time when I were all in I also had blockers to some of the hands and 5 times against AA I had KK.

                Unless I am been really thick it does suggest that once somebody 4bets they have a good hand most of the time and are simply playing their cards.

                I said before it seems like 2 steps forward and 3 steps back but at the moment it seems to be 2 forward and 2 back and Im not really getting anywhere. I keep making the same old mistakes over and over and I am a million miles away from learning from those mistakes.
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                02-13-2013 , 08:56 AM
                Villain is a reg and I decide to give up on the river in a spot where I might normally continue. Run in to the top of someones range again though by the looks of it but fine with how I played it.

                  Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16016131

                  BTN: $56.65 (113.3 bb)
                  Hero (SB): $70.91 (141.8 bb)
                  BB: $25 (50 bb)
                  UTG+1: $112.31 (224.6 bb)
                  UTG+2: $86.69 (173.4 bb)
                  MP1: $52.25 (104.5 bb)
                  MP2: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
                  MP3: $25 (50 bb)
                  CO: $74.78 (149.6 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is SB with Q A
                  6 folds, BTN raises to $1.25, Hero calls $1, BB folds

                  Flop: ($3) 6 T J (2 players)
                  Hero checks, BTN bets $2.29, Hero raises to $6, BTN calls $3.71

                  Turn: ($15) 8 (2 players)
                  Hero bets $11, BTN calls $11

                  River: ($37) 2 (2 players)
                  Hero checks, BTN bets $15.95, Hero folds

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $37 pot ($1.66 rake)
                  Final Board: 6 T J 8 2
                  BTN mucked and won $35.34 ($17.09 net)
                  Hero mucked Q A and lost (-$18.25 net)



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                  02-13-2013 , 09:01 AM
                  Not sure on this one:-

                  Villain is 18/10 and folds to 3bet 10% over a decent sample. I guess with his small opens he is thinking he can flat with most of his opening range.

                    Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16016151

                    BTN: $25 (50 bb)
                    Hero (SB): $58.85 (117.7 bb)
                    BB: $77.21 (154.4 bb)
                    UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
                    UTG+2: $37.87 (75.7 bb)
                    MP1: $27 (54 bb)
                    MP2: $50.75 (101.5 bb)
                    MP3: $46.50 (93 bb)
                    CO: $72.42 (144.8 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
                    4 folds, MP3 raises to $1, 2 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, BB folds, MP3 calls $2.50

                    Flop: ($7.50) Q J Q (2 players)
                    Hero checks, MP3 bets $2, Hero calls $2

                    Turn: ($11.50) 2 (2 players)
                    Hero checks, MP3 bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

                    River: ($18.50) A (2 players)
                    Hero checks, MP3 bets $14, Hero calls $14

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $46.50 pot ($2.09 rake)
                    Final Board: Q J Q 2 A
                    Hero showed J A and won $44.41 ($21.41 net)
                    MP3 showed 4 4 and lost (-$23 net)



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                    So 3bet pre for value. Pretty decent flop for me but villain is only calling cbets 10% of the time and only raising 10% so I expect he folds everything that I beat. Decided to check/call down but his river bet looks strong but I also think that maybe he thinks this is a good scare card. Not sure though.
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                    02-13-2013 , 09:02 AM
                    AQo seems fine to me.
                    seems like stars turned doomswitch for you too.. i am with you gl!
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                    02-13-2013 , 09:52 AM
                    Why cant I stop myself?

                      Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16016221

                      Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
                      SB: $56.29 (112.6 bb)
                      BB: $50 (100 bb)
                      UTG+1: $69.60 (139.2 bb)
                      UTG+2: $151.83 (303.7 bb)
                      MP1: $23.25 (46.5 bb)
                      MP2: $59.77 (119.5 bb)
                      MP3: $54.50 (109 bb)
                      CO: $49.83 (99.7 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q J
                      6 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, SB folds, BB calls $0.75

                      Flop: ($2.75) 9 4 4 (2 players)
                      BB checks, Hero bets $2.50, BB calls $2.50

                      Turn: ($7.75) 6 (2 players)
                      BB checks, Hero bets $7.25, BB calls $7.25

                      River: ($22.25) 8 (2 players)
                      BB checks, Hero bets $39 and is all-in, BB calls $39 and is all-in

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $100.25 pot ($2.50 rake)
                      Final Board: 9 4 4 6 8
                      Hero showed Q J and lost (-$50 net)
                      BB showed 9 9 and won $97.75 ($47.75 net)



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                      It almost seems any time I choose to bluff I am bluffing in to the nuts. Im basically repping the hand he has, pretty sick but once again I have bluffed off another stack when there were no need.
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                      02-13-2013 , 10:10 AM
                      The whole reason behind that hand is that the villain calls cbets over 60% of the time and I wanted to make him fold. What a tool.
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                      02-13-2013 , 10:57 AM
                      Semi bluffing this time and hitting the top end of somebodies range. I almost feel I need to play my hands face up because as soon as I decide to bluff or take an alternative line things just go to ****.





                        Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16016341

                        Hero (BTN): $58.65 (117.3 bb)
                        SB: $50.25 (100.5 bb)
                        BB: $152.21 (304.4 bb)
                        UTG+1: $64.04 (128.1 bb)
                        UTG+2: $30.83 (61.7 bb)
                        MP1: $50 (100 bb)
                        MP2: $50 (100 bb)
                        MP3: $50 (100 bb)
                        CO: $37.18 (74.4 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is BTN with 3 A
                        5 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

                        Flop: ($3.75) T 3 4 (2 players)
                        CO bets $2, Hero raises to $7, CO raises to $35.68 and is all-in, Hero calls $28.68

                        Turn: ($75.11) J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                        River: ($75.11) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $75.11 pot ($2.50 rake)
                        Final Board: T 3 4 J T
                        Hero showed 3 A and lost (-$37.18 net)
                        CO showed T A and won $72.61 ($35.43 net)



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                        I wouldnt mind but I just 3bet against this guy and check/folded an awful flop, hes really loose and I thought this were a good spot. Again though I call thinking Im drawing to about 12 outs but just to run salt in the wound he also has the Ace.

                        Still I think the hand is fine just need to try and be a bit luckier. I mean just once I must be due to get it in in a spot like this and the villain shows up with only JT or something and I actually get there.
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                        02-13-2013 , 11:06 AM
                        fwiw i think bluffing paired flops is terribad, anytime i get called twice im instant shutting down, even when i get called once im not happy.

                        A3s looks frustrating, the one time you choose to be a bit lgiht and villain bet/raises TPTK :/

                        how are you finding zoom btw?
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                        02-13-2013 , 11:34 AM
                        Yo Stars if you could find it in your heart of hearts to let me hit a draw and also not pair the board everytime I have missed then that would be fabulous. That is all.
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                        02-13-2013 , 11:40 AM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by YouFaiil

                        how are you finding zoom btw?
                        Frustrating. I keep running in to the top of peoples ranges and it dosnt seem to be the other way around. My graph looks like an ECG and every time I find myself getting anywhere I either run bad and start spewing or decide to bluff people who dont have a clue what I am actually repping.

                        I keep seeing these almost variance free graphs in the updates thread and I wonder how people do it but after seeing some of them play they are playing a really basic game and literally not putting their money in unless they have the nuts. So they very rarely get stacked but the chances are they will also find it tough to move up because better players will have them figured out pretty well. I bet playing like that is good enough to get to NL100 though so I guess its a case of weighing up what you want to do.
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                        02-13-2013 , 11:50 AM
                        This sums up Zoom for me. I bluff off with air in to the nuts but when I flop good I cant even get a cbet or bet out of people.



                          Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16016421

                          BTN: $51.36 (102.7 bb)
                          SB: $69.36 (138.7 bb)
                          BB: $127.90 (255.8 bb)
                          UTG+1: $50 (100 bb)
                          UTG+2: $23.06 (46.1 bb)
                          MP1: $42.21 (84.4 bb)
                          MP2: $58.94 (117.9 bb)
                          MP3: $50 (100 bb)
                          Hero (CO): $50 (100 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is CO with 9 9
                          5 folds, Hero raises to $1.25, BTN calls $1.25, 2 folds

                          Flop: ($3.25) 3 9 9 (2 players)
                          Hero checks, BTN checks

                          Turn: ($3.25) J (2 players)
                          Hero checks, BTN checks

                          River: ($3.25) Q (2 players)
                          Hero checks, BTN checks

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $3.25 pot ($0.15 rake)
                          Final Board: 3 9 9 J Q
                          BTN mucked 5 5 and lost (-$1.25 net)
                          Hero showed 9 9 and won $3.10 ($1.85 net)



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                            Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16016431

                            Hero (BTN): $50 (100 bb)
                            SB: $80.47 (160.9 bb)
                            BB: $95.46 (190.9 bb)
                            UTG+1: $82.73 (165.5 bb)
                            UTG+2: $30.47 (60.9 bb)
                            MP1: $15.11 (30.2 bb)
                            MP2: $73.26 (146.5 bb)
                            MP3: $112.71 (225.4 bb)
                            CO: $65.72 (131.4 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is BTN with J J
                            5 folds, CO raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 2 folds

                            Flop: ($3.75) J A 7 (2 players)
                            CO checks, Hero bets $2.75, CO folds

                            Spoiler:
                            Results: $3.75 pot ($0.17 rake)
                            Final Board: J A 7
                            Hero mucked J J and won $3.58 ($2.08 net)
                            CO mucked and lost (-$1.50 net)



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                            gg Stars.
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                            02-13-2013 , 11:52 AM
                            Looooool


                              Poker Stars, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #16016441

                              BTN: $28.76 (57.5 bb)
                              SB: $56.42 (112.8 bb)
                              BB: $18.71 (37.4 bb)
                              UTG+1: $50.05 (100.1 bb)
                              Hero (UTG+2): $53.09 (106.2 bb)
                              MP1: $25 (50 bb)
                              MP2: $75.58 (151.2 bb)
                              MP3: $50.26 (100.5 bb)
                              CO: $59.14 (118.3 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 4 4
                              UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $1.50, 5 folds

                              Flop: ($3.75) J A 4 (2 players)
                              Hero bets $2.75, MP2 folds

                              Spoiler:
                              Results: $3.75 pot ($0.17 rake)
                              Final Board: J A 4
                              Hero mucked 4 4 and won $3.58 ($2.08 net)
                              MP2 mucked and lost (-$1.50 net)



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                              *** Dont Be Scared - MartL's Tilt Free Poker & Improvement Thread (NL50 FR & Above) *** Quote
                              02-13-2013 , 11:56 AM
                              do you find people have the goods when they're being aggressive or when they're calling?

                              id say a big part that people underrate is those players with the variance free graphs know how to fold, like you mentioned. its unbelievable jsut how much money can be burnt by clicking the call button.

                              Overall id say those guys are jsut super solid, they focus on not making mistakes and get pretty efficient at it.

                              edit: your focus seems to be shifting from "am i making the correct decision?" to "wtf stars, why am i not getting paid off??"

                              99: youd cbet your entire range here prety much, why did u check?
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