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11-29-2010 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyWf
I know, I know, it's nitpicking, but there was some extraordinarily slopping writing tonight.

So the Winnebago breaks down because it needs a hose. But, uh-oh, the bit guy is getting worse! So we have an annoying maudlin scene where they have to make a hard decision and everyone cries about it....

and then everybody just drives off. Including the RV. The whole hose subplot is completely forgotten.
Legit concern. I don't usually nitpick stuff, but once they started driving away I was thinking wtf. They even supposedly sent a couple of people to check out "something"in the distance and don't mention anything at all.

Such a lazy show. No, I don't need everything spelled out but that was ridiculous.
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11-29-2010 , 01:38 AM
WTF do you people want? They can't imply that a throwaway scene happens without showing it? You really need to see this scene?

"Hey old dude we found a hose!"

"Awesome let me see if it fits!"

[Old dude puts hose on RV]

"Hey looks good let's go!"

How would showing this sequence add to your enjoyment of the show? Who cares?
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11-29-2010 , 01:40 AM
Adding that sequence would be as pointless as showing 18 people kiss and hug and lament crazy about-to-be-a-zombie guy
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11-29-2010 , 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Nez477
Adding that sequence would be as pointless as showing 18 people kiss and hug and lament crazy about-to-be-a-zombie guy
Ya, in a world where people have watched their families get eaten by zombies and are having to fight and scavenge every day for survival, I get the feeling the warm and fuzzy side of human nature would shut off very fast and things would be alot more primative, survival instinct and all.
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11-29-2010 , 02:17 AM
i've watched every ep and don't give a **** about a single one of these characters

feels empty
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11-29-2010 , 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by mjkidd
WTF do you people want? They can't imply that a throwaway scene happens without showing it? You really need to see this scene?

"Hey old dude we found a hose!"

"Awesome let me see if it fits!"

[Old dude puts hose on RV]

"Hey looks good let's go!"

How would showing this sequence add to your enjoyment of the show? Who cares?
No it doesn't need to be spelled out, but why even make a scene out of showing the problem, having no solution, then sending two guys out to find "something". Did we really need to see that scene?

Its just filler...which in a short first season is pointless and irritating. I don't know about you, but less filler absolutely adds to my enjoyment of this show.
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11-29-2010 , 02:31 AM
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Originally Posted by mjkidd
WTF do you people want? They can't imply that a throwaway scene happens without showing it? You really need to see this scene?

"Hey old dude we found a hose!"

"Awesome let me see if it fits!"

[Old dude puts hose on RV]

"Hey looks good let's go!"

How would showing this sequence add to your enjoyment of the show? Who cares?
Who cares about anything? Why is there a plot at all? The show should just be like a scroll "There were zombies but eventually the good guys win. Thx 4 watching!"

If you introduce a problem as part of the narrative, yes, you do need to show them solving it. Or explain why it isn't a problem anymore.

And it's not like they cut out a scene like the above, there wasn't time for them to go find a hose. They laid the guy down and immediately left him. The guys who said they were going to go check out the gas station were involved in the discussion about leaving the guy.

Oh, yeah, we also got the timeframe revealed. Wildfire went global 64 days ago or whatever, so Rick was in a coma for 2 months.
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11-29-2010 , 02:37 AM
That it's been two months and everyone is still a pussy throwing temper tantrums about wanting to bury their people, crying over their dead sister, and like getting offended at the suggestion that they kill the guy who was bit is ridiculous, btw. One big reason I don't care about the characters is because they act like they are all slightly ******ed teenage girls.
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11-29-2010 , 05:59 AM
trailer spoiler?

Spoiler:
i hope we at least get to see some old blonde sister titties! if not she is totally ****ing worthless.


This show has one thing in common with Dexter, not a single likable female character. Unless I'm way off, please chime in?

Can't say there are many likable male characters in the show. The black dude in episode 1 was a BAMF and I want more of him. (morgan?) The older guy stole the show IMO, great non-verbal acting, great body language, etc.
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11-29-2010 , 06:32 AM
During the scene with the blonde and her sister, as another poster noted before me, I was literally yelling at the TV in anticipation of her zombified sister lunging out of her stupor to take a bite out of her dumbass sister. I mean the dumb b*tch held her face literally inches away from her reanimated sister's mouth as she hugged her before blowing her brains out. But, we got jack sh*t out of that. I felt slow rolled if anything.

Spoiler:

In the comics, Shane and Rick have a confrontation in the woods, followed by Shane drawing his shotgun on Rick. Right before Shane is about to pull the trigger, he is shot by Rick's son with a revolver. The show is completely deviating from the comics at this point.


MOD NOTE- guys, let's keep the comics stuff in spoilers plz.

Also, LOL at all the scenes with Jim Bob or what's his name. Just leaving him in the winnebago alone in random scenes, not restraining him on the road trip, and leaving him to turn and potentially kill others is just pure FAIL.

Definitely enjoyed the massacre scenes at the CDC. Constantly found myself saying, "How the f*ck did the military screw that up with several tanks and mounted machine guns, while only showing a few hundred in zombie casualties at all."

Looking forward to next episode though

Last edited by Dids; 11-29-2010 at 10:34 AM.
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11-29-2010 , 09:32 AM
This show needs to be more B movie because thats all the cast can pull off.

This episode was terrible because it did not have the resources to achieve its dramatic goals.

Also it was jarring to me how obviously the entire episode was set aside for exposition on the emotional consequences of the zombie Apocalypse.
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11-29-2010 , 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by O.A.F.K.1.1
Also it was jarring to me how obviously the entire episode was set aside for exposition on the emotional consequences of the zombie Apocalypse.
This seems to me to be the whole point in the show. The driving plot behind the show is how the characters change as they become more desperate in their situation.
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11-29-2010 , 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by cookieb
This seems to me to be the whole point in the show. The driving plot behind the show is how the characters change as they become more desperate in their situation.
Perhaps I was not precise enough, I meant set aside for dealing first hand with the issue of family and friends becoming zombies. Yea we have heard accounts of it, but have not seen it. The moment the friends/family become zombies is problematic phase ends it immediately ninja cuts to CDT guy. To overt and clumsy to me.

Seemed very contrived. Writers could have mixed those themes into the dramatic discourse of the show over the entire run instead of clumsily dealing with it in one show in a way that seemed like a box tick.

Exposition on the difficulties of having to shoot family members in the head, friends get bitten,. Check.
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11-29-2010 , 10:33 AM
It's like White Goose said, this was what's his name's vision and he only directed the first episode. It's too much show for whoever they have now. I'm guessing he busted his ass to give us that first episode and said screw it, these actors are crap.
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11-29-2010 , 10:52 AM
Would appreciate the show getting a lot better or a little bit worse so it can either be good or ridiculously bad.

Leaving the guy to become a fresh, strong, barely injured zombie is unbelievably stupid. I wish they had to go back the way they came and were set upon by him.

Every single drama scene is badly written and/or badly acted.

Reasons to continue watching:

1) To find out what happens.
2) Zombies!
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11-29-2010 , 11:53 AM
Darabont is the show runner, not just a director. He's still in charge of what we're seeing even if he isn't actually directing each ep.
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11-29-2010 , 11:58 AM
You're saying there's no difference between the first episode and the following episodes?
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11-29-2010 , 12:00 PM
Man you would think by now all of them would be like cold hearted mother****ers just shooting anyone that has a chance of turning into a zombie, or mother****ers be shootin themselves when they get bit and ****.
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11-29-2010 , 12:03 PM
question for someone who's read the comic:

is the comic set in atlanta as well? because I know that Georgia has offered tons of incentives to shoot tv/movies here, and in last year/ past few months its gone up exponentially.
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11-29-2010 , 12:11 PM
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You're saying there's no difference between the first episode and the following episodes?
No. I'm saying that the obvious differences are still within the control of Darabont.

The big difference between the first ep and the rest is that the first ep wasn't polluted with a bunch of other characters being idiots, and that the show's basic tendency to be idiotic was excused because the main character in that ep had just woken up from a coma and had an excuse.
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11-29-2010 , 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by lonely_but_rich
It's like White Goose said, this was what's his name's vision and he only directed the first episode. It's too much show for whoever they have now.

Who they have now is still Frank Darabont.

And opening a post with "It's like White Goose said..." is never a good idea if you're trying to garner support for a position.
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11-29-2010 , 12:14 PM
hmm, I'll have to think about this some more. White Goose is clearly the worst thing on the internet but his facts checked out. Frank Darapont only directed the pilot. I don't know what a show runner is though.
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11-29-2010 , 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dids
Darabont is the show runner, not just a director. He's still in charge of what we're seeing even if he isn't actually directing each ep.
I'm going to hope for Darabont's sake that's a vanity credit.
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11-29-2010 , 12:26 PM
close to 40 minutes of incredibly boring, poorly acted and written filler, 5 minutes of poorly acted and written scenes where something is sorta happening at least. Goddamn this episode was bad.
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11-29-2010 , 12:26 PM
I hate that he's still wearing his sheriff suit. You ain't the sheriff of **** anymore, bro.
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