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04-19-2010 , 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
LOL at the people who think that Jessie will be killed off this season.
How is it not possible? The show has made so many turns that everything is possible, and be honest, Jesse has dangerous knowledge, is a junkie and at the moment pissed off. Walt has shown before that $ > junkies.

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Originally Posted by wetleg
I'm surprised that Gus has never discussed with Walt the fact that he knows that his brother-in-law is a DEA agent. You would think that this is something that he would bring up.

This has to mean something down the road.
Gus might find it out, but I doubt Walt will ever bring it up, would be suicidal.
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04-19-2010 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
How is it not possible? The show has made so many turns that everything is possible, and be honest, Jesse has dangerous knowledge, is a junkie and at the moment pissed off. Walt has shown before that $ > junkies.



Gus might find it out, but I doubt Walt will ever bring it up, would be suicidal.
Agreed with first part... I think its definitely possible that they kill him off.

Although, there are two opposing factors when trying to think if Walt would let Jesse be killed. We've seen him be a father figure to him, but we've also seen what happens when people get in the way of him making money and providing for his family. But now we basically see him "give up" trying to get Walter Jr back and it appears he is going back to cook. So I wouldn't think twice if Walt had a hand in Jesse being killed.

And the second part makes no sense spurious... Gus is the one that knows Hank is DEA and Walt's brother in Law. Remember in the DEA agency when Gus was part of a "clean up the neighborhood" type project, and hanks picture was on the canister taking donations. Gus recognizes him and asks Hank and Hank says its my brother in law he has cancer. Walt has no idea Gus knows.
04-19-2010 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by MrLix
YES! Great episode and certainly the best episode of the new season. Must say I liked Gustavo from the start and he is a great villain character in the same sort-of way as Idris Elba/Stringer Bell was in The Wire. Low key, very intelligent, always eloquent, pulling all strings from the background - and very powerful indeed.

Outstanding dialogue between him and Walt about what being a man/provider is all about.
Did he believe his own words though... Or would he say anything just to make Walt come work for him?

Anyones guess imo

I still dont know for certain if he is:
A: A bad guy with a conscience.
or
B: A psychopath who is very good at acting like a nice guy.
C) A ruthless capitalist.

Great episode. The acting in the strip club scene was pretty terrible, but the rest was very good. I know everyone itt hates Skyler, but Anna Gunn was fantastic this episode and has been really good all season.

Windshield metaphor at the end was a little on the nose and I preferred how they used the windshield at the end of last episode.

Odenkirk is awesome once again. Telling the story about getting xanax from the chiropractor and shamelessly going after Walt's business.

Gilligan and co. do some more fun stuff tilting episodes the premiere was called "No Mas" this episode was called "Mas"
04-19-2010 , 12:25 PM
So I presume that Walt is going to start paying alimony (maybe) and child support? Notice how if Skylar takes the money out of the bag she's an accessory after the fact, but if she gets child support through the court system she's in the clear. So now she'll have even less incentive to turn Walt in.
04-19-2010 , 12:40 PM
I've been in MIA in this thread this season due to being abroad, but holy hell this week's episode was awesome. I was beginning to think that a Jesse/Walt rivalry might develop, but I really don't see how Jesse will realistically be able to compete with Walt. Clearly Hank will get to Jesse, so maybe Jesse will blackmail Walt into cutting him in to keep silent? Seems far fetched too.

When Gus revealed the lab, it brought a genuine smile to my face. The ending was totally badass (Walt, Jesse, Saul scene), I think my favorite ending of any episode.
04-19-2010 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by burkoboy
And the second part makes no sense spurious... Gus is the one that knows Hank is DEA and Walt's brother in Law. Remember in the DEA agency when Gus was part of a "clean up the neighborhood" type project, and hanks picture was on the canister taking donations. Gus recognizes him and asks Hank and Hank says its my brother in law he has cancer. Walt has no idea Gus knows.
Damn you are right, I only remembered that Gus was in Hank's office, but forgot that he actually saw Walt's picture.
04-19-2010 , 01:47 PM
I love the way this show doesn't forget its past. I mean, even dead combo gets worked back into this. They've done a connect-back to almost every character in the show. Also love that Jesse didn't spend the money on the RV (well, most of it).
04-19-2010 , 02:32 PM
Here's something that occurred to me: Is Gus going to try to cut the Cartel out of the meth game in the Southwest? (Or is Los Pollos Hermanos expanding?)

200 lbs. / week for three months is a pretty intense load; I'd be surprised if they moved that all anytime soon. Maybe Gus is stocking up for when Walt is gone, but at the same time, you don't build a lab like that to only use it for three months-- and I agree with everyone who thinks Gus will get the formula from Walt eventually and reproduce it.

Obviously you don't want to **** with the Cartel, but Gus has a pretty powerful bargaining chip in Walt. He could use Walt to help him cut a better deal with the Cartel for being allowed to sell the stuff he manufactures instead of going through them.
04-19-2010 , 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by VayaConDios
So I presume that Walt is going to start paying alimony (maybe) and child support? Notice how if Skylar takes the money out of the bag she's an accessory after the fact, but if she gets child support through the court system she's in the clear. So now she'll have even less incentive to turn Walt in.
I wouldnt be surprised if there is no divorce. I certainly got the feeling that she's starting to have second thoughts, and that him finally signing the papers somehow came as a surprise.

To hell w the b*tch i say. I really hoped Walt would agree tbh back when Tuco told Walt to forget about his family and come to Mexico and get a super lab set up for him.
Walt - "But i have a family! What about my family??"
Tuco - "Get a new family!"

Last edited by MrLix; 04-19-2010 at 02:47 PM.
04-19-2010 , 02:39 PM
Watch Skylar move in with Ted, get divorced, collect alimony from Walt, and then start screwing around with Walt again behind Ted's back, once she realizes she likes Walt's cojones to do something bad and Ted is a doofus like Walt said.
04-19-2010 , 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TheUntouchable
Don't know when he's ever shown a conscience. He's never done anything that hasn't personally benefited him and is a large contributor to a crystal meth epidemic. He's undoubtedly responsible for ruining many people's lives and it doesn't even seem like he's getting to enjoy the fruits of it since he's working at a ****ing fast food place for 40 hours a week.
Does he actually "work" there? The way i saw it he only showed his face there occasionally and did some light management work to keep up the facade?
04-19-2010 , 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Daddy Warbucks
Does he actually "work" there? The way i saw it he only showed his face there occasionally and did some light management work to keep up the facade?
Thats my impression 2. Right down to driving a Volvo stationwagon - he does everything just right. This must be the ultimate way to keep the feds off your scent imo..
04-19-2010 , 02:53 PM
My read on Gus is that he is actually so anal of a businessman he probably enjoys working at his Pollo places and running a tight ship there.

Would like some more background info on him, how he arrived at doing the drugdealing, how he rationalizes it.

and Mr Lix - gus reminds me more of Mouzone than Stringer, but whatever.
04-19-2010 , 04:17 PM
Gus is detail oriented and a strategic thinker. It's striking how solid and full his character seems. More screen time and back story might actually make it harder to accomplish this.
04-19-2010 , 04:52 PM
I think Jesse will get caught by Hank, but he won't speak to him about Walt.
Walt will know it by some way, will be thankful to Jesse, and they will be friends again.
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04-19-2010 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SnotBoogy
Watch Skylar move in with Ted, get divorced, collect alimony from Walt, and then start screwing around with Walt again behind Ted's back, once she realizes she likes Walt's cojones to do something bad and Ted is a doofus like Walt said.
Pretty sure Walt doesnt have to pay any alimony, especially not after she would move in with Ted. Am I missing something?
04-19-2010 , 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Spurious
Pretty sure Walt doesnt have to pay any alimony, especially not after she would move in with Ted. Am I missing something?
uh the whole reason he signed the papers is so he can provide for the family, even if it's completely unappreciated.

loved the lab scene, all the scenes with gus, and the dinner scene. pillar separating walt and his family was a nice touch. also love the fact that walt didn't even blink when gus asked him for 200lbs/week.
04-19-2010 , 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mused01
uh the whole reason he signed the papers is so he can provide for the family, even if it's completely unappreciated.

loved the lab scene, all the scenes with gus, and the dinner scene. pillar separating walt and his family was a nice touch. also love the fact that walt didn't even blink when gus asked him for 200lbs/week.
i thought there was no right for alimony if one of the partner cheats on the other? doesnt really matter, i guess.
04-19-2010 , 07:07 PM
problem

combo takes titty picture then steals rv

how does picture end up in estranged mothers room?
04-19-2010 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wetleg
LOL at the people who think that Jessie will be killed off this season.
I would completely agree with you if I hadn't seen Bodie and Poot kill Wallace before the end of season 1 of The Wire. After that I refuse to be completely shocked by anything on TV.

Jesse's arc is very close to Wallace's right down to going somewhere to get away from it all before succumbing to the urge to come back to the game. He's not completely stupid and he's sympathetic and seems like he might actually have a future if he stays clean.

Plus, what choice does the cartel have?
04-19-2010 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
problem

combo takes titty picture then steals rv

how does picture end up in estranged mothers room?
Pretty sure Combo still stayed there off and on when he needed to. Some mothers always keep a room for their kids even after they move out. Also, Skinny P might have had the photo and came to place it in the room as sort of a vigil yeah?
04-19-2010 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chilltown
problem

combo takes titty picture then steals rv

how does picture end up in estranged mothers room?
wat? he sold his mom's RV while she was sleeping, but obviously (due to his bedroom) still lived there/was there somewhat often. so he probably tried to play if off like it was stolen, she knew it was him but didn't report it for reasons stated, he developed the pics and continued living there (even if occasionally) til he was popped.

there's no problem.
04-19-2010 , 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ZDAR
Theres also the option of Jesse getting back together with Walt at some point, it doesnt seem like Jesse would have much of a shot going against Walts skills & backing.
Walt has no need whatsoever for Jesse anymore, other than to keep him quiet, so their relationship will be interesting as the show continues.

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pillar separating walt and his family was a nice touch.
so many awesome little things like this. right before sky gets the call from her sister while in the car (about the baby), as the camera is panning down there's a woman walking a stroller with a baby in it behind her. i didn't think this was a coincidence exactly.
04-19-2010 , 07:36 PM
Loved the sisters this episode. Anyone take anything from the shower scenes? Hank is getting too close to Heisenberg to stay around much longer. Sky might be leaving Ted which could be foreshadowing Hank's death/incapacitation. Then again, they might just be taking showers.
04-19-2010 , 08:18 PM
jesse should threaten to tell walt jr whats been going on. then he gets something from walt - either death or $$$
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