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04-11-2011 , 04:10 AM
Another great scene is Hank's confession of his PTSD to Marie. Besides the final scene of "One Minute" it is probably the best non-Walt scene in the series.
04-11-2011 , 10:12 AM
Hank is an underrated character. Always enjoy scenes with him.
04-11-2011 , 03:47 PM
Is there any significance to 307/308? 307=Room Holly was born in, 308=White family address, 3:07-3:08=Time the brothers come for Hank.
04-11-2011 , 03:54 PM
If you multiply the number of Hank elevator scenes times the times the number of pool scenes you get 308.
04-11-2011 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by d10
Is there any significance to 307/308? 307=Room Holly was born in, 308=White family address, 3:07-3:08=Time the brothers come for Hank.

Episode 308 (S03E08) was a big episode with Gus. Not sure it means anything :/

Another awesome scene
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNN3J...eature=related
04-11-2011 , 04:24 PM
Surprised to see people saying that all the seasons are close. Three is just on a completely different level in my opinion. The show took a pretty big leap last season.

The other two are great don't get me wrong.
04-11-2011 , 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by mjkidd
Another thing...on Walt's "con" list for killing crazy 8 he lists that he will likely get PTSD. But he hasn't. At all. And he has done some serious ****, above and beyond the crazy 8 killing. This is relevant because Hank has in fact gotten PTSD for going through stuff that is comparable to what Walt has done. But Walt is completely unfazed. Are we being told that Walt is a sociopath? That Hank's reaction is appropriate and Walt's is not?
I hadn't really thought of it in those terms, but Walt definitely does some things a person couldn't do without sociopathic tendencies.
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Surprised to see people saying that all the seasons are close. Three is just on a completely different level in my opinion. The show took a pretty big leap last season.

The other two are great don't get me wrong.
Agree. It's also amazing how Walt has gone from marked-for-death badass with nothing to fear to, by the end of season 3, craven coward who sells out (relatively) innocent lives to preserve what little life he has remaining. (I obviously think that's more to his true character than Cancer Badass with Good Intentions, but the journey there, and how we are shown Walt's transformation, is amazing.)
04-11-2011 , 06:45 PM
I get "sell out innocent lives," but "craven coward?"
04-12-2011 , 12:54 AM
Rewatching S3, did anyone ever figure out what was up with the opening scene of "Sunset" where the brothers killed that random woman at her house and then the cop that showed up to investigate?
04-12-2011 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by nath
It's also amazing how Walt has gone from marked-for-death badass with nothing to fear to, by the end of season 3, craven coward who sells out (relatively) innocent lives to preserve what little life he has remaining. (I obviously think that's more to his true character than Cancer Badass with Good Intentions, but the journey there, and how we are shown Walt's transformation, is amazing.)
This is ridiculous. If Walt had sold out Jesse, then you may have a point. By killing Gale, he didn't sell out anybody.
04-12-2011 , 03:09 PM
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This is ridiculous. If Walt had sold out Jesse, then you may have a point. By killing Gale, he didn't sell out anybody.
Gale is the person I'm talking about! He's a lot more innocent than Walt or Jesse-- he's just some nerdy scientist who saw a good business opportunity.
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I get "sell out innocent lives," but "craven coward?"
He had a (relatively) innocent man murdered and put Gus and his organization back on Jesse's tail, just so he could buy himself a few more minutes (or days, or however long it takes Gus to find a new replacement) to figure out his next stratagem to stay alive. You can certainly argue that it's cowardly the way he keeps causing collateral damage around him rather than suck it up and accept his fate.
04-12-2011 , 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by mjkidd
Another thing...on Walt's "con" list for killing crazy 8 he lists that he will likely get PTSD. But he hasn't. At all. And he has done some serious ****, above and beyond the crazy 8 killing. This is relevant because Hank has in fact gotten PTSD for going through stuff that is comparable to what Walt has done. But Walt is completely unfazed. Are we being told that Walt is a sociopath? That Hank's reaction is appropriate and Walt's is not?
yeah that's exactly what i was going to say, that Walt is kind of a sociopath. i've think they've shown us this quite a lot, how he can do some of these horrible things without much of a conscience. and i believe they've actually shown us a number of times how he gets off on being this badass as "Heisenberg". i believe the show starts off in S1E1 illustrating exactly how unhappy and emasculated he is as Walter White, teacher.

and i believe that he's struggled a lot through the series choosing between doing "Heisenberg" things, and what's best for his family, and what he cares more about. and i don't think it's necessarily clear at this point. i mean just the fact that he was cured (was he not? was it partial or complete remission? i forget), but chose to keep making drugs for the money anyway.

i wouldn't be surprised if he gets worse before he gets better, and sells out everyone but himself along the way. then again he could also try to go straight and get out too.
04-12-2011 , 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
He had a (relatively) innocent man murdered and put Gus and his organization back on Jesse's tail, just so he could buy himself a few more minutes (or days, or however long it takes Gus to find a new replacement) to figure out his next stratagem to stay alive. You can certainly argue that it's cowardly the way he keeps causing collateral damage around him rather than suck it up and accept his fate.
It's definitely cowardly that he refuses to suck it up and accept his fate. It's cowardly for him to pretend he cares about innocents, it's cowardly to pretend he's doing all this for his family, it's cowardly for him to be the cringing "good old Walt."

It's not cowardly for him to kill innocents. That is accepting his fate - which is to be Scarface, to be "the bad guy."
04-12-2011 , 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by madnak
It's definitely cowardly that he refuses to suck it up and accept his fate. It's cowardly for him to pretend he cares about innocents, it's cowardly to pretend he's doing all this for his family, it's cowardly for him to be the cringing "good old Walt."

It's not cowardly for him to kill innocents. That is accepting his fate - which is to be Scarface, to be "the bad guy."

Ohh ummm.. like this







04-12-2011 , 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by madnak
It's definitely cowardly that he refuses to suck it up and accept his fate. It's cowardly for him to pretend he cares about innocents, it's cowardly to pretend he's doing all this for his family, it's cowardly for him to be the cringing "good old Walt."

It's not cowardly for him to kill innocents. That is accepting his fate - which is to be Scarface, to be "the bad guy."
Word, I can see this logic. The problem is that Walt really hasn't accepted this fate; he only resorts to playing it when his life is in immediate danger. I think somewhere in his mind he still thinks (although he may not after the season-ending decision) that he's the "good guy" and everything he does is to some noble purpose, when the show has been showing us that (even long, long before he became Heisenberg) that he was never really a good guy; he was a guy who put his ego and resentment in front of all else.
04-13-2011 , 12:21 PM
Not sure if this is new information or not but season 3 is being released on dvd on June 7th.
04-13-2011 , 02:33 PM
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why you got me running around town trying to find some stupid piece of plastic when i've got a perfectly good tub i can use?
any decent acid is gonna eat right through this thing
04-13-2011 , 02:54 PM
That exchange so perfectly captures so many things about Walt. There wouldn't have been a problem if he'd taken the ten seconds to explain to Jesse, "the acid we need to use to dissolve the bones will eat through almost everything except this type of plastic". Instead he takes the typical Walt approach of "Idiot junkie, I'm the genius chemist here, just do what I say."
04-13-2011 , 03:24 PM
http://followmy.tv/shows/2783/Breaking_Bad is showing the premiere data for S4E1 as July 11, not sure of the validity though.
04-13-2011 , 03:43 PM
its probably correct they were running some ad for july aswell here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knLjd4wh9YY
04-13-2011 , 03:55 PM
That's a Monday.

The Killing ends on June 19th so July 3rd or 10th is most likely.
04-13-2011 , 04:05 PM
Is AMC a "private" network like HBO or something? I mean, the quality of TV shows they produce is absolutely mindblowing (obv examples being BB and Mad Men) so I was wondering about that.
04-13-2011 , 09:15 PM
the fixer from season 3 is on modern family tonight
04-21-2011 , 09:31 PM
Why did they delay season 4? Pretty sure the last few seasons aired in March. Going thru BB withdrawls...gotta get that blue s**t...

      
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