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05-31-2010 , 11:43 PM
Pretty sick ep. The scene where Gus was cooking Walt dinner was epic. Seemed to me as though Gus was trying to show Walt that he (gus) was not a 'tryant' and that people involved in such activities can live a 'normal' life. Perhaps trying to make the whole 'drug lord' think more socially acceptable in Walt's eyes.
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05-31-2010 , 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by so bad
Facepalm in regards to such a bad line/idea being written into the show, not the truthfulness of Szckylerz comment.
Awareness of the relevance may change, but the facepalm is the constant. Okay?

To me, I thought it was pretty human. It is a way to say that you didn't file, but without giving up any emotional vulnerability-- protecting yourself in a way. "I had a rational/strategic reason for this, I didn't go wobbly." Not saying that is what it was about, just something that occurred to me as I watched.

The part that I thought was ludicrous that he would think that by signing the papers he was effectively divorced...
06-01-2010 , 12:01 AM
FLY probably was the worst episode of any show ive ever watch a full season of. i zoned out at least a couple times it was just so bad.
06-01-2010 , 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by so bad
The whole "married couples can't be forced testify against one another" moment was the first major facepalm of the series.

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I think it works. It is a cliche, but Skyler doesn't know anything about criminal law and it is something she could easily make up or think is true like Walt's "statistical edge"

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Originally Posted by nath
I got the worst ****ing lawyers.
06-01-2010 , 02:16 AM
It was clear to me that Gus was talking about Jesse. I think he has the lab bugged and he knows everything. I think the fact that he invited Walt into his house and into his kitchen was a way of saying "You're here where I cook, I'm there where you cook. Listen up."

Also, right after Gus says "Don't make the same mistake twice" there's a hard cut to Jesse as his car pulls up at the spot where Combo died. When a show links together Gus's comment and Jesse with that cut, it's pretty difficult not to read that edit as meaning something.
06-01-2010 , 04:21 AM
There's also the knife. Gus hands walt a sharp knife pointed at his own heart. He clearly wants to show his trust.
06-01-2010 , 09:18 AM
Last 2 eps are gonna be awesome
06-01-2010 , 09:32 AM
Walt saying "it's all contaminated" = his soul is gone, imo
06-01-2010 , 11:37 AM
Grunching. Since Hank found the connection between Jesse and the quality blue ice, why doesn't the DEA simply put surveillance on him, which will lead them right to the laundromat cook lab? I would think they would follow Jesse asap, especially since the product has started appearing on the streets again.

Also, for that reason, it's very dumb for Walt to involve Jesse in his lab operation. He knows that Hank knows Jesse is or was involved.
06-01-2010 , 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bluesbassman
Grunching. Since Hank found the connection between Jesse and the quality blue ice, why doesn't the DEA simply put surveillance on him, which will lead them right to the laundromat cook lab? I would think they would follow Jesse asap, especially since the product has started appearing on the streets again.

Also, for that reason, it's very dumb for Walt to involve Jesse in his lab operation. He knows that Hank knows Jesse is or was involved.
wow, i only said that like 3x already in this thread and haven't gotten one good response
06-01-2010 , 12:13 PM
I liked Psyclore's idea of purchasing car wash. Big cash business that you can continually funnel money. And she could do all the bookkeeping too. Don't think a "Danny" is that important.
06-01-2010 , 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by SnotBoogy
wow, i only said that like 3x already in this thread and haven't gotten one good response
Think I beat you to it.
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Originally Posted by STA654
Since the DEA knows all about Jesse's meth cooking proclivities won't that make it dangerous to bring him into the superlab?
06-01-2010 , 12:21 PM
I believe someone has said this, but Saul told Jesse that they had a ton of leverage over the DEA and they wouldnt be bothering him. The DEA doesnt want anything to do w/ Jesse after Hank assaulted him and his system was clean of meth.
06-01-2010 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by imsomucked
I believe someone has said this, but Saul told Jesse that they had a ton of leverage over the DEA and they wouldnt be bothering him. The DEA doesnt want anything to do w/ Jesse after Hank assaulted him and his system was clean of meth.
I forgot about this. Still seems like they would atleast look into it though. It will be interesting to see what happens with Jesse since obviously hes in danger.

There has to be secret cameras in the lab and Fly would of been a great episode if Walt would of found a camera. What suprises me is that walt is pretty sure the lab is bugged but obviously doesnt think there are cameras.
06-01-2010 , 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SnotBoogy
wow, i only said that like 3x already in this thread and haven't gotten one good response
because to someone on the outside, he will just look like hes got a job at a laundromat
06-01-2010 , 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nath
...Where did you hear that? I haven't heard that, and the show has seemed quite meticulously planned out to date, actually...
Pretty sure it was someone posted something about it itt (interview with the creators, or something) where they mentioned that. Obviously the major plot points for each season are planned out, but that they might not plan ahead and put things in for next, or work out every little detail before the season starts. So they're still putting things in, taking things out, etc. Could be wrong, just the impression I got from what I read a while back.

Maybe if someone is the person who posted that, or if anyone knows what I'm talking about they can re-post.

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Originally Posted by imsomucked
I believe someone has said this, but Saul told Jesse that they had a ton of leverage over the DEA and they wouldnt be bothering him. The DEA doesnt want anything to do w/ Jesse after Hank assaulted him and his system was clean of meth.
Plus the whole blue meth hunt was Hank's obsession, and no one else in the DEA really cared about it. Maybe that changed when his partner told Hank that he was right, and the blue meth was still around in ABQ (and a DEA agent was shot), but maybe not. His bosses were specifically telling Hank to give it up and move on, didn't seem like anyone could be bothered about it. I get the feeling that the law enforcement angle will come back eventually though, maybe if/when Hank starts walking again.
06-01-2010 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 72off
Plus the whole blue meth hunt was Hank's obsession, and no one else in the DEA really cared about it. Maybe that changed when his partner told Hank that he was right, and the blue meth was still around in ABQ (and a DEA agent was shot), but maybe not. His bosses were specifically telling Hank to give it up and move on, didn't seem like anyone could be bothered about it. I get the feeling that the law enforcement angle will come back eventually though, maybe if/when Hank starts walking again.
Didnt the blue meth show up in every state or county (dunno which one) around New Mexico/ABQ? There was no blue meth in ABQ with the exception of the times Jesse sold it.
06-01-2010 , 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by imsomucked
I believe someone has said this, but Saul told Jesse that they had a ton of leverage over the DEA and they wouldnt be bothering him. The DEA doesnt want anything to do w/ Jesse after Hank assaulted him and his system was clean of meth.
ok, but hank was also shot up, and jesse is the one guy who they know hank was after in the drug trade. seems like jesse would be a guy they'd be on like flies on ****, whether or not he had a history with hank doesn't matter. it's the friggin DEA, have fun suing them for anything.

I will buy if the DEA thinks he just works at the laundromat. but they def would follow jesse around a bit to figure that out. no way an agent gets a hit put on them and the one name they do have goes without surveillance.
06-01-2010 , 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by private joker
I see. Well, I do remember there being a scene last season where they talked about doing something like going to a museum, so it wasn't totally out of left field to have written that scene in now. We're just getting some story holes filled in, and it's not uncommon for serial narratives to do that. I have absolutely no problem with these kinds of flashbacks. Especially when they don't exist merely to tie up a loose end or solve a continuity problem.
There was definitely a mention of them from S2 about going to museum so Jane could show Jesse some good art. I can't remember the exact context but I believe Jesse blew off Walt for some business they were supposed to take care of in order to go with Jane to the museum.
06-01-2010 , 03:16 PM
From Sepinwall's blog
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For you "Breaking Bad" continuity nerds, that would set the scene around the time period of last season's "Over," since Jesse blew off the Georgia O'Keefe exhibit to cook with Walt in the desert in the previous episode ("Four Days Out"), and they were doing drugs together by the next one ("Mandala").
06-01-2010 , 03:17 PM
It is not nagging at me as a plot hole, but I do agree that I think they'd be following up Hank's investigation considering it (however circumstantially) appears to have got him into a shoot-out with cartel hit men.

It's as if the shoot out and appearance of blue meth all over the western US ended Hank's disciplinary problems (and Hank's ability to trail Jesse), but that's the only consequences right now.
06-01-2010 , 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mused01
i thought she said married couples couldn't be charged for the same crime
06-01-2010 , 03:55 PM
Really liked this episode. Great plot development after last week left most of us a little disappointed.

Saul came off as such a schmuck when he was trying to convince Skyzillor. Bring up "danny" earlier would have made a lot of sense. Despite several episodes of her gradually becoming more accepting of Walt's business it still felt like a stretch to have her offer to be the Danny of the carwash. Obviously her morals have been compromised over the last 6 months or so (Beneke, wanting the money for Hank, realizing she's been living off the drug money all along) her behavior in this ep fell just short of outright acceptance.

The Walt/Gus dinner made me nervous, the Jesse/Thomas scene made me really nervous. I still don't buy Jesse as being a bad enough guy to seduce and sell to recovering addicts at a NA meeting. Jesse getting emo after seeing the Jane cig and getting with Mexi-MILF a few days later also seemed out of character.

I don't think Jesse is gonna die but it's not out of the realm of possibility. I think it would cripple Walter's character (by effectively un-crippling him) and would remove a lot of the drama from the operation. Bring back perfect lab assistant in perfect lab with zero-headache distribution and proper money laundering and he's pretty much just working a 9-5 for 1M1MM. This would make for pretty boring TV IMO.
06-01-2010 , 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Freakin
Saul came off as such a schmuck when he was trying to convince Skyzillor. Bring up "danny" earlier would have made a lot of sense. Despite several episodes of her gradually becoming more accepting of Walt's business it still felt like a stretch to have her offer to be the Danny of the carwash. Obviously her morals have been compromised over the last 6 months or so (Beneke, wanting the money for Hank, realizing she's been living off the drug money all along) her behavior in this ep fell just short of outright acceptance.
I think she's scheming, I think she wants in on the money without actually being involved in the drugs side of thing. Basically she just wants the good stuff. Possibly with a view to blackmailing Walt somewhere down the line for more money.
06-01-2010 , 05:27 PM
Anyone get the exact name of the dish that Gus was making? Some variation of paella...?
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