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05-31-2010 , 03:47 PM

#2876

private joker

Most Definitely

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 72off

I just meant added in after she died. Like the other flashback, it's just something they came up with now, didn't set up in any way, so it didn't seem planned.

I see. Well, I do remember there being a scene last season where they talked about doing something like going to a museum, so it wasn't totally out of left field to have written that scene in now. We're just getting some story holes filled in, and it's not uncommon for serial narratives to do that. I have absolutely no problem with these kinds of flashbacks. Especially when they don't exist merely to tie up a loose end or solve a continuity problem.

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05-31-2010 , 04:06 PM

#2877

TheHip41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 72off

I just meant added in after she died. Like the other flashback, it's just something they came up with now, didn't set up in any way, so it didn't seem planned. Otherwise that scene could have been in last season, or at the lipstick cigarette, and then have Jesse flashback to the context surrounding it. Not that I have a huge problem with it, but I remember someone else (rightfully?) criticizing the show for doing the same with the turtle/head/bomb thing, attributing it to the psycho twins after the fact to make them look more badass.

Someone also mentioned reading/hearing that the creators are flying by the seat of their pants to a degree with this show (as in not having everything planned out longterm), this would back that up I think.

Me too, it was a very good scene. Just nitting it up for no reason at all...

Didn't even think about that, but this makes sense. Walt would probably love it too, to be able to hold over Ted after HFS. Would be a nice plot development I think, but I can also see it ending badly.

If this was Lost, sure, it might be a mild concern. For this show it works just fine.

I am pretty sure they DIDN'T have that scene in mind last year, and I am pretty sure we didn't see the lipstick cig in the car until season 3

05-31-2010 , 04:09 PM

#2878

72off

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHip41

I am pretty sure they DIDN'T have that scene in mind last year, and I am pretty sure we didn't see the lipstick cig in the car until season 3

Yes, this is what I'm saying. It would be better if they did, but it's not really a big deal though...

/nit

05-31-2010 , 04:20 PM

#2879

suchsickaments

banned

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 5,437

do you guys think its possible that Gus is actually a smoke monster?

05-31-2010 , 04:25 PM

#2880

Daddy Warbucks

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Something that I don't understand is why people think "it's on" now with Jesse and the rival crew? Why did he need to meet the girl to put all this stuff together? Presumably Combo getting shot was at least on the news or there was a police report saying where he was shot, and the rival crew seemingly haven't moved off the territory, so why couldn't Jesse/Badger/"Peter" put all this together and take care of it when it happened?

05-31-2010 , 04:31 PM

#2881

Kesky

journeyman

Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 312

Excellent episode last night.

05-31-2010 , 04:34 PM

#2882

so bad

grinder

Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 653

The whole "married couples can't be forced testify against one another" moment was the first major facepalm of the series.

Still, super excited to see how this all pans out. The writers have set up disaster from basically every direction. We're definitely getting a big death some time soon. Reeeeaaaally hoping it's not Gus.

05-31-2010 , 04:42 PM

#2883

kitaristi0

l'étranger

Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 16,139

Quote:

Originally Posted by private joker

iirc it was in the episode where Walt and Jesse went into the desert to cook for several days. Jesse wanted to go to the gallery/museum with the girl but Walt made up the lie about the chemicals going bad if they don't use them up now to get him to go cook.

05-31-2010 , 04:43 PM

#2884

Kirbynator

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Quote:

Originally Posted by so bad

The whole "married couples can't be forced testify against one another" moment was the first major facepalm of the series.

am I missing something?

05-31-2010 , 04:45 PM

#2885

DC11GTR

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It'll be Jesse, or it'll be Gus.

05-31-2010 , 04:50 PM

#2886

blankoblanco

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i can't believe so many people think jesse's gonna die, i don't see it happening

05-31-2010 , 05:23 PM

#2887

mused01

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i thought she said married couples couldn't be charged for the same crime

05-31-2010 , 05:35 PM

#2888

entertainme

The Poker Mom

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 8,444

Quote:

Originally Posted by einbert

The mistake Gus is telling Walt not to make again is to hide details of the operation from Gus. Specifically the fact that Jesse is stealing.

This makes the most sense to me. Walt was recently caught withholding information from Gus and Gus was warning him not to do it again.

The idea that this was about Skylar doesn't make sense. Gus likes to hide in plain sight, and being a family man is a positive in his mind. There was also that whole speech about being a provider.

05-31-2010 , 06:19 PM

#2889

panda

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Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,032

I feel like it's almost to obvious for this show for Jesse to get killed now. I was so expecting the Walter and Gus scene to be explicitly about Jesse that I really don't know how to interpret what was said.

I was just wondering about Hank's storyline, as it doesn't seem to be going anywhere at the moment. It's possible that now, given that he has lots of time to do with but think, he will start to put 2 and 2 together about Walter. Especially when he invariably finds out about the masses of cash that Walter "won."

05-31-2010 , 06:31 PM

#2890

Xaston

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Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 4,530

Quote:

Originally Posted by panda

I was just wondering about Hank's storyline, as it doesn't seem to be going anywhere at the moment. It's possible that now, given that he has lots of time to do with but think, he will start to put 2 and 2 together about Walter. Especially when he invariably finds out about the masses of cash that Walter "won."

If he doesn't start walking and realizes that Heisenberg is Walt and was right in front of his nose the whole time, could he conceivably kill himself?

05-31-2010 , 06:45 PM

#2891

panda

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That is certainly a possibility as this episode went to great effort to show how depressed and angry he was, he's never been like that with his family before at all that I can remember. Also, he couldn't turn Walt in as his ongoing treatment is reliant on Walt's money, which is a thread which has been overlooked largely in this thread but imo is bound to have a huge effect on whatever happens in the finale.

Last edited by panda; 05-31-2010 at 06:47 PM. Reason: edit: I r dumb, he was grouchy with his wife before the accident anyway.

05-31-2010 , 07:18 PM

#2892

esad

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Quote:

Originally Posted by so bad

The whole "married couples can't be forced testify against one another" moment was the first major facepalm of the series.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mused01

i thought she said married couples couldn't be charged for the same crime

IMO Skyillorr likes old movies

05-31-2010 , 08:22 PM

#2893

imakefrush

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 204

I think the chances of Jessie getting killed off are pretty damn low. I certainly wouldn't mind it, don't get me wrong. He is coming off an Emmy nom, it is only the third season, he probably scores highly in the x and y demographic, not to mention all the time they spent developing his relationship with Walt. I just don't see the producers/network allowing Gilligan to take such a drastic step. Sure, BB has proved to be outside the mold several times and I hope they prove me wrong, but you just don't see shows kill off their co-lead very often. And if they do, it is bc the actor wants to go.

05-31-2010 , 08:34 PM

#2894

CheckRaise

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheHip41

people that don't like "fly" probably hated No Country for Old Men too

nope

05-31-2010 , 09:09 PM

#2895

nath

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Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 69,754

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franchise 60

Did Jesse stealing the meth specifically lead to Gus' comment and the dinner as a whole?

Not explicitly, but obviously there's some speculation as to so. Really, it could refer to lots of things-- I think in general, Gus is letting Walt know not to lie to or withhold information from him.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 72off

Someone also mentioned reading/hearing that the creators are flying by the seat of their pants to a degree with this show (as in not having everything planned out longterm), this would back that up I think.

Where did you hear that? I haven't heard that, and the show has seemed quite meticulously planned out to date, actually.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mused01

i thought she said married couples couldn't be charged for the same crime

I got the worst ****ing lawyers.

05-31-2010 , 09:43 PM

#2896

SBR

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 1,625

I don't understand why they brought that redic married people can't testify stuff in when she could obv just take the 5th no matter what walt was charged with, unless I have no idea how taking the 5th works.