He's just laughing behind his keyboard trolling the hell out of everyone imo.

probably

Why would it hurt him more than it helped him? He'll hit it only when he determines it's the best option.

I don't get how your brains work.

Also I can't wait for slim to answer this.

If he's as good as he says he is - he's probably got many clubs laying around that he probably hits well but aren't currently in his bag. LOL if he concocts a reason to NOT add them to his bag if he could.

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You told me to leave you alone so that's cool. U stfu about this and I am done as well.

That's the point, though. For some players certain clubs are almost never the best option, and even if those situations do rarely occur, the player will convince themselves that they occur much more often than they actually do.

A player that hits a monster push slice that ends up 80 yards offline with his driver 45% of the time, hits a monster pull hook that ends up 80 yards offline in the other direction 45% of the time, and stripes 300 yards dead straight down the middle the other 10% of the time should still leave his driver at home, even if he has no other club to replace it with. Surely you can admit that much, right?

slim, I re-read your post and it's relatively the same difference for you and me.

I hit my 3i some percentage worse than I hit my 7i and that percentage is relatively similar to yours.

You don't get that. You think that high handicappers hit their wedges and short irons pretty normal and then have no clue how to hit the longer, less-lofted club. It is wrong. Or, at least, it is not applicable across the board.

Do you think I don't notice where my long iron shots go!? I know that I don't hit my 3i as well as my 7i but the difference is simply not large. It's not nearly as large as you think and certainly not to the point where playing with my 13 best clubs is somehow better than playing with my 14 best clubs when we are allowed 14.

Think about that. You are literally suggesting that bad golfers play with their 13 best clubs instead of their 14 best clubs. Repeat that in your head and tell me that's not bat**** crazy. It makes no sense.

YOU have a club in your bag right now that is your 14th worst club. Why don't you leave it at home!? It's all relative - you don't get that.

If you are gonna leave 1 club home you may as well leave 2 clubs at home and play with 12 clubs.

Why are you suggesting the completely arbitrary number of 13!? Where is that coming from besides crazyville? It makes NO sense when you are allowed 14 clubs.

No it's not the same thing but for the sake of this forum I am done with this dumbness.

We disagree so w/e

ARC is just repeating the same thing every time there is a lull - you are all being trolled to hell and back - don't you see how he never addresses it when someone says he is trolling.

Good timing. You are "done" talking about this when you've been proven to be wrong.

It is an inarguable position that: "A bad golfer should play with his 13 best clubs instead of his 14 best clubs". This is inarguably wrong. It makes no sense whatsoever and is completely arbitrary. Yet this is precisely the position you have gone out of your way to take in this thread because you "play competitive golf and know the game".

By the way, just to make you feel better, there are certainly times where I've been 3i distance out and have chosen my 4i instead. It's not like I do not discriminate when out on the course. I'm still going to carry the 3i if I determine it's my 14th best club.

MikkeD, I am not trolling. I'm 100% correct that every golfer should carry his 14 best clubs at all times. Discretion on the course must also accompany this.

Your boy is literally saying that it is better to play with your 13 best clubs instead of your 14 best clubs. Every 2nd grader in America knows that is a dumb comment. They would probably assume bwslim is the 26 handicap and I'm the former PRO with the big swinging dick.

Lol it just never ends

Awesome makes me feel a lot better. Do what you do bro

Nobody is suggesting that all bad golfers should remove their worst club from their bag. The point is that some bad golfers carry clubs that they would be better off leaving at home even if they have no club to replace them, because for those golfers hitting that club is never or almost never the correct play. For that matter, obviously you don't even have to limit it to your worst club. If you are a golfer that just began playing and you care at all about what your score is, it would behoove you to determine which clubs are a benefit and which clubs are a detriment to your game at your current skill level. If you carry 3-pw gw, sw, lw, putter, driver, 3w but you hit your driver/3i/LW so badly that there is no situation where another club is not a better play for you then yes, it would be better for you to either remove them from your bag or simply resolve yourself to not hit them on the course (in which case why carry them around?).

I don't even understand why you're getting so offended about this. Plenty of players go through something similar- I carried 13 clubs for a long time when I could not for the life of me hit a Driver that didn't have a massive slice. It's not an insult to you to suggest that it might be a better play to simply not carry around certain clubs.

slim, It would end if you would simply admit I am right and you were wrong. But alas, here we are. Me being all helpful in explaining a simple concept to you, and you being an elitist golfdouche.

thread being trolled to no end. every angle covered. gg folks

one would argue shooting in the 110s and taking shots at low handicappers is being a golfdouche

There is a big difference though. You here are admitting you sucked massive dick with your driver whereas I never said nearly the same about my 3i. You guys just saw it listed as my lowest iron and said "Take that out of your bag herp derp!!!!!!!!!"

In all honesty, for the longest time now, and I can't explain why, my 5iron has been my worst iron in the bag. Often times if I'm 170-180 out I'll either opt for the 4i or 6i. Yet you guys don't know this because you never bothered to ask.

And by the way, I still think you should have carried your driver but that's obviously your decision and it doesn't bother me in the slightest that you carried 13 clubs.

Literally no one in this thread has said this. Nobody has said "bad players should only carry 13 clubs". Obviously that is ******ed. The point is that ALL players (not just bad ones) should only carry around clubs that benefit their game. The reason that the advice is really only given in reference to bad players is because the vast majority of "good" players can just about any club beneficial to their game to some degree, or if they own a club that they just can't make beneficial to their game they have others that are that they can replace it with.

Contributions like these are very helpful for posters on both sides of the argument. Thanks a lot for your contributions.

AHAHAHAAH

YES THEY HAVE!!!!!!! I asked them to clarify their position and they said I'm better off with 13 clubs instead of 14!!!!!! It's absurd.

I made the VERY OBVIOUS point that "lol - all clubs "hurt" my game so it's not a huge difference" to which most everybody ignored. It's like they think I rip my 4i/5i/6i but for the life of me cannot get my 3i in the air. It's really... well, dumb is a good word for it.

Not everyone said that- I do not agree with that statement at all. You have to understand, though, that if you can actually hit your 3i well you are pretty rare. The vast vast majority of players that shoot over 100 on average cannot hit a 3i.

Why? Why should a player carry a club that is literally never the best option for him? By saying that you're telling me that you believe 1 of 2 things- a player should A) sometimes hit a club that he knows is not the best club for that shot just to justify the club's existence in his bag, or B) carry club(s) that he knows he will never hit simply to say that he is carrying the maximum number of clubs allowed.

Which of those two statements is it?

spg, you are using the term "hurt" without any context or quantifiable measure.

A player's 14th best club does not "hurt" his game worse than his 13th best club. That's the entire point. There is not some magic leap that occurs between the 4i and 3i.

The thought process isn't "This distance requires a 3i, but instead I'll just hit my 4i because, though I'll be 10 yards short of the green, I am guaranteed to hit it dead straight - which is not the case with my 3iron."

That is basically what you are making the decision sound like. It's not like that, though.

Both clubs "hurt" my game relative to par. Where does it stop? Quit golf? Don't even show up at the course if I don't expect to break par!?