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09-05-2011 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by VarianceMinefield
i also did not provoke him in anyway. i was just a 13 year old kid at my first event with a ugly sweater. really cool being in your 20s and attacking someone. at least he probably looked super cool to his friends. HAHAHA NICE ONE PTR, remember when you made fun of all those guys? that was soooo classic bro. LETS ALL GRIEVE HIM
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09-05-2011 , 07:25 PM
I heard he died a la David Carradine. Pass it on.
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09-05-2011 , 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by iMsoLucky0
na i just dont think cause someone dies we have to lie about them. hitler was a brave soldier bro
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09-05-2011 , 08:09 PM
Has nothing to do with lying. Has to do with being considerate of other people's feelings. You know how he made you feel when you were 13? You're possibly doing worse to the people mourning him. Nice Hitler analogy though... because he definitely has a lot of people mourning him.

Hope it makes you feel better though!

Someday when you lose someone you really care about you will understand what I'm saying. Until then, I'm done.
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09-05-2011 , 08:36 PM
bout time
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09-05-2011 , 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by iMsoLucky0
Has nothing to do with lying. Has to do with being considerate of other people's feelings. You know how he made you feel when you were 13? You're possibly doing worse to the people mourning him. Nice Hitler analogy though... because he definitely has a lot of people mourning him.

Hope it makes you feel better though!

Someday when you lose someone you really care about you will understand what I'm saying. Until then, I'm done.
im sure all of the people who are actually friends with him would snap admit he was a huge douchebag to people he didnt know. im sure its just a fact. they will prob read the story and get a laugh. oh ye LOL that was hilarious. i miss ptr. your weak mind does not see it though.
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09-05-2011 , 11:15 PM
Any good resources on best way to sell cards?
Looking for quick effective return close to market value (not expecting much because im not willing to put in the time, but dont want to get screwed)

Is it worth the time investment to put up classified etc? Is it fun at all?

Been playing some drafts and want to unload my good cards for tickets.
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09-05-2011 , 11:40 PM
Sell to bots. You may lose few % of value tops, but that way you actually sell the cards instead of selling 1 card/hour. Use big chains like cardbot.
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09-06-2011 , 03:54 AM
classifieds work fine in high volume markets if you get between the price margins, but it's best left up while you're doing something else rather than staring at the screen or w/e

if you do sell to bots be sure to shop around for the best price
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09-06-2011 , 10:22 AM
Don't give the bots more business.
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09-06-2011 , 10:29 AM
just remembered i was scammed for 500$ a few weeks ago, i forgot his modo sn but his party sn is cottonballer
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09-06-2011 , 01:03 PM
http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazin...y/feature/159b

only relevant for live players it seems, but wow...
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09-06-2011 , 01:08 PM
Sweet god this is what I've been pushing for ever since the Vs. system was clearly better. I'm not an active MtG player and probably won't be but this is an awesome change. Well done.
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09-06-2011 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by kyleb
Sweet god this is what I've been pushing for ever since the Vs. system was clearly better. I'm not an active MtG player and probably won't be but this is an awesome change. Well done.
We'll see.

People sitting on ratings before may lose their PT invites to some clown who plays 20 tournaments a week.

Be interesting to see how this shakes out, but we all know how volume based leaderboards work.
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09-06-2011 , 01:12 PM
Ratings should not be used for invites. At all. It's a terrible, broken system. Elo is horrible for that and this has been obvious as of 6-7 years ago. Sitting on rating is terrible for the game and for the competitive scene.
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09-06-2011 , 01:25 PM
As bad as sitting on your rating is, isnt their problems with this system also. First is that those players that play more will ranked as "better" players and secondly every win provides the same amount of points regardless of how good your opponent is. Personally, I like the idea that you will gain more points from playing better players producing a system that can legitimately determine how skillful you are compared to other players. So when you go from 1600 to 1800 its means something, but now with everyones score inflating at a rate that is not correlated necessarily just with skill it becomes harder to determine exactly what a certain rating is. As a amatuer, but competitive player, who might play some FNMs it might be harder to determine how much better I am than the guy who loves to go to as many events as possible.

Also, doesnt this system incentivize players to play to the end of every event? That may be a good thing to some but I am sure to others who play a lot the idea of grinding out an entire grand prix when they have no shot of making the money might become an obligation and not something that is enjoyable for certain players.

I am not a competitive player so I dont really care all that much but I am just trying to figure out what it all means for the tournament scene.
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09-06-2011 , 01:29 PM
As far as I can tell, this system strongly rewards players who grind out competitive events and play Magic in local stores as much as possible. This is great for stores and great for people who have the drive and fire to play competitive Magic.

I used to play in five local sanctioned tournaments per week plus PTQs and GPs that I could get to. Dave Price used to drive across the Midwest to play in PTQs. This type of dedication should be rewarded - consistently high finishes in tournaments is what drives these rankings, and I see nothing wrong with that.

It's bad for the pros who sit on rating and don't play much live. And to that I say, who gives a ****.
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09-06-2011 , 01:30 PM
At least the old rating system was trying to do what you want a rating system to do: Rate players based on skill.

The purpose of this system isn't to solve any of the actual problems of the old system. Its to make WOTC more money.

The two main factors are how much you play and how big the events you play in are.

They want to encourage players to play more and they want events to be larger.
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09-06-2011 , 01:31 PM
Yes, it makes Wizards more money and keeps local stores in business longer. It also rewards people who play a lot of Magic. I don't see what the problem is unless you are someone who liked to sit on your rating.

The idea that "Wizards makes more money = This idea is bad" is ridiculous. It encourages people to play in sanctioned events. This can only be a good thing.
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09-06-2011 , 01:41 PM
It would be better if its allowed pros to play more but also gave an accurate measure of each players skill. But these two goals are at odds, because you have to have a system that takes points from people and the whole reason pros dont play lower events is because they dont want to randomly get screwed to some low rated player and lose a lot of points.

I doubt this really hurts the pros that much since the best players already play a ton of magic but it will be interesting to see what they have to say about this new system.
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09-06-2011 , 01:42 PM
Every change Wizards has ever made to Magic has been made with the intention of making money, and it's silly to use that as an argument against it. It's good that this rewards people who put the effort in, but there still needs to be a way of making the skill level of your opponents count for something. Players shouldn't be able to rack up points by crushing ******s at local events.
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09-06-2011 , 01:44 PM
Did you guys miss the fact that GPs and PTs have ridiculous multipliers? Touring GPs and finishing well in them is probably the best strategy for staying on the train.
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09-06-2011 , 03:58 PM
disclaimer: i play like 3 paper mtg tournies / year

im not really sure what to think of the new rating system (im sure low k-vlaue old rating system would be best for good players), but i do know that the new system does alot of things thats good for wotc:

no need to rating-camp no more
encourages to play alot

i am shocked tho how big the advantage is for americans: new rating system is all about playing lots of gps and pts. 7 US GPs (+1 in mexiko) vs 8 rest of the world.

i predict snap take the over of 4.5 americans / PT t8 for 2012.

edit: and the FNM multiplier is way 2 high imo

Last edited by martenJ; 09-06-2011 at 04:13 PM.
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09-06-2011 , 04:28 PM
Can we talk about how sick snapcaster mage is now?
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09-06-2011 , 04:29 PM
That card is NIIIIICE
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