NY Post source: A Reid bill will be introduced by end of session; Kyl may co-sponsor - Page 14 - Poker Legislation

Two Plus Two Forums Poker News & Discussion General Poker Discussion

NY Post source: A Reid bill will be introduced by end of session; Kyl may co-sponsor

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 14 of 25

First

4 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 24

Last

Page 14 of 25

First

4 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 24

Last

12-13-2011 , 07:55 PM

#326

LastLife

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4,593

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go Get It

By kicks the **** out of you meaning losing by 3 points?

fyp

Quote

12-13-2011 , 08:06 PM

#327

rwperu34

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,214

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go Get It

By kicks the **** out of you mean by 3 points?

Don't be ridiculous. They can't score 3 points. I don't know who's going to win, but the final score will be 2-0.

Quote

12-13-2011 , 08:12 PM

#328

JohnWilkes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,013

Quote:

Originally Posted by sluggger5x

Given how much infighting there is swarming around right now between McConnell and Reid it might be in Reid's best interest to leave poker alone right now unfortunately. He is dishing out a lot of smack to McConnell for focusing on Keystone which is totally unrelated to the payroll tax cuts. If Reid did try poker he might be dubbed a hypocrite after berating attaching the pipeline to the bill.

These sorts of political fights are totally unpredictable though, maybe ipoker will be a nice fu from Mr. Reid if the R's do get their way with the oil pipeline.

Some on Fox would made a small point with some in the center. He would also upset Rs in the Senate. I do not think Reid cares. He should care but that is IMHO not in his.

Quote

12-13-2011 , 08:39 PM

#329

JohnWilkes

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 4,013

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...line-deadline/

Ball is now in Reid's court.

Quote

12-13-2011 , 08:43 PM

#330

Go Get It

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 12,530

Quote:

Originally Posted by LastLife

fyp

Quote:

Originally Posted by rwperu34

Don't be ridiculous. They can't score 3 points. I don't know who's going to win, but the final score will be 2-0.

I think LSU will win, but I expect it to be an ultra heavy defense game like the first. Still hate that there is no playoff in college football

Quote

12-13-2011 , 08:43 PM

#331

Go Get It

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 12,530

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnWilkes

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...line-deadline/

Ball is now in Reid's court.

He said hes going to kill the bill in the senate imo. Maybe we can get something in conference.

Quote

12-13-2011 , 08:57 PM

#332

grenzen

veteran

Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,402

The nypost article mentioned 25% tax. That's killer rake uncle Sam.

Quote

12-13-2011 , 09:13 PM

#333

Pauky

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,217

Do you think Phil Helmuth has any credibility in knowing iPoker behind the scenes scoop?

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/1...ions-11620.htm

Quote:

“I wouldn’t be surprised if online poker were passed in the next five days,” Hellmuth said in the interview. “I wouldn’t be surprised if it passed before Feb. 1 ... I think there’s going to be the biggest explosion in poker history the minute [online poker] is legalized.”

To position himself for the legalization of online poker, Hellmuth said: “I happen to be in a pretty lucky position where we have had more than one discussion recently, you know, there’s some very big companies and some very big people that are starting to get ready for the legalization of online poker. You may find me signing something in the next two weeks. You may find me signing with a company that no one’s ever heard of. Don’t be surprised if that happens.”

Quote

12-13-2011 , 09:14 PM

#334

LT22

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,841

Quote:

Originally Posted by grenzen

The nypost article mentioned 25% tax. That's killer rake uncle Sam.

Not really...The article doesn't know the tax rate and 25% on corporate PROFIT wouldn't be that big of a deal. Tilt and Stars were willing to pay corporate taxes because it was cheaper than skirting the UIGEA.

Quote

12-13-2011 , 09:15 PM

#335

Mitch Evans

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,633

Quote:

Originally Posted by grenzen

The nypost article mentioned 25% tax. That's killer rake uncle Sam.

Sounds about right. State lotteries charge 50% vig. Can't expect poker to be too different.

Quote

12-13-2011 , 09:17 PM

#336

LT22

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,841

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauky

Do you think Phil Helmuth has any credibility in knowing iPoker behind the scenes scoop?

http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/1...ions-11620.htm

possibly...he's got conflict of interest in saying that stuff though. The more he makes companies think he is signing a deal soon, the more people will be willing to pay him/make offers

Quote

12-13-2011 , 09:17 PM

#337

Mitch Evans

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,633

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pauky

Do you think Phil Helmuth has any credibility in knowing iPoker behind the scenes scoop?

Nope

Quote

12-13-2011 , 09:21 PM

#338

poopcrew

enthusiast

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 77

Who cares if r's wanna build an oil pipeline. If that's what it takes to add poker onto the bill let it happen!!!!! Reids being a little bia imo.

Quote

12-13-2011 , 11:33 PM

#339

DrewOnTilt

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 7,748

Quote:

Originally Posted by Go Get It

By kicks the **** out of you mean by 3 points?

Scoring 3 points on either of those defenses is considered an ass kicking by most.

And yeah, boooooo to no playoff system.

/thread derail.

Quote

12-14-2011 , 01:23 AM

#340

sluggger5x

John Connor of poker

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,592

Hellmuth even used the word "rider attached" when he spoke of the bill coming in five days.

All the shred of intelligence I have in me says the guy is full of it but in my heart of hearts I want to believe him.

Quote

12-14-2011 , 01:59 AM

#341

rwperu34

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 4,214

Quote:

Originally Posted by sluggger5x

This does a pretty good job of summing up how I feel.

Quote

12-14-2011 , 04:19 AM

#342

PdPG

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 267

Quote:

Originally Posted by sluggger5x

If Reid did try poker he might be dubbed a hypocrite after berating attaching the pipeline to the bill.

Quote:

Originally Posted by CwazyMonter

sadly, i agree 100%. soon as a saw reid dub boeners inclusion of the keystone pipeline as "ideological candy" i knew poker was not on reid's agenda to include. well, i knew that already but his "candy" statement confirmed it.

You guys say these things as if it's not already well documented that Reid's a lying hypocrite turnabout scumbag. These kinds of concerns have never stopped him before.

Quote

12-14-2011 , 05:18 AM

#343

sluggger5x

John Connor of poker

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,592

Quote:

Originally Posted by PdPG

You guys say these things as if it's not already well documented that Reid's a lying hypocrite turnabout scumbag. These kinds of concerns have never stopped him before.

politarding goes here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41/politics/

Quote

12-14-2011 , 05:19 AM

#344

Mitch Evans

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,633

Quote:

Originally Posted by sluggger5x

politarding goes here: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/41/politics/

Meh, "poker legislation" is all about politics and not much else.

Quote

12-14-2011 , 04:38 PM

#345

b finkelstein

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 667

i can see ph having some good info he is "in the know " . i hope im right

Quote

12-14-2011 , 04:49 PM

#346

Mitch Evans

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 5,633

Quote:

Originally Posted by b finkelstein

i can see ph having some good info he is "in the know " . i hope im right

He is not in the know. He is just trying to position himself with a deal. He's a fantastic tournament player (NL in particular) but terrible at cash, so he needs endorsement money to keep his lifestyle.

Quote

12-14-2011 , 05:13 PM

#347

b finkelstein

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 667

he's def bad at cash...

Quote

12-14-2011 , 05:20 PM

#348

Jonaspublius

veteran

Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2,182

Im starting to wonder why if Helmuth is so down with regulation and legislation he isn't asking his fans to help lobby? He has the least taint of the big names and is american.............why not start doing some public service announcements here, on tv, and in the cardroom? Hell, why not ask whoever he is angling at to sponsor to HELP him do some rallying of poker players? He gets paid, we get to play, and the sponsor gets to start making some big $.

Maybe that can be tomorrow's action tweet.........beg helmuth to help, i'm sure hsi vanity will love it.

Quote

12-14-2011 , 05:46 PM

#349

sluggger5x

John Connor of poker

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 5,592

I am sending tweets to Reid, McConnell, and Boehner to attach online poker legislation to the tax cuts. I suggest others do the same:

Reid:
http://clicktotweet.com/w4Yv4

McConnell:
http://clicktotweet.com/8e82N

Boehner:
http://clicktotweet.com/dUc7S

Quote

12-14-2011 , 06:28 PM

#350

b finkelstein

banned

Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 667

slugger i have a quick question for you if you don't mind.. ok i know most are rooting for a so called backdoor way to get poker regulated i.e. attaching it to a must pass bill. my question is if somehow we do get it attached, wouldn't it be kind of a weak sauce like the uigea was and is? i would think going through the normal process would be much stronger and have more bite to it so to speak. thanks in advance

Quote

Page 14 of 25

First

4 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 24

Last

Post Reply Subscribe

...

Page 14 of 25

First

4 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 24

Last