If this is just SOPA/Pipa with a new name, even if poker is attached to it I hope it doesn't pass.

article makes it seem like it's not anywhere close to those, but not sure if that's a spinjob.

going through this process makes me feel like one of those people who refreshes HEM/PT every 5 hands to see how much he's winning/losing for the session. just too many highs and lows. my own fault obv but just so hard to not get excited at the possibilities. I'm still keeping the faith though.

I didn't even get done writing my post and someone made my point for me.

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it's not SOPA/PIPA, you guys should do a little research once in a while...it protects key infrastructure. On the outside looking in, the bill seems like a slam dunk. Who doesn't want to protect America's critical infrastructure systems?

almost like safe ports, amirite?

probably the same people who don't want to protect the children from the sin of online poker

For those of you that are disappointed, next time you see a thread like this just remember we're a long-shot and ignore silly posts calling this "a lock" or "80% likely". We are always big underdogs to attach.

Also, while TE's assessment we are 50% to pass a bill this session is waaaay high as evidenced by the fact that I get zero action offering to bet against a bill at anywhere close to even money, its not really fair to blame the PPA for the disappointment ITT. They didnt even portray as much optimism as during the sweat last December.

Karak didnt say this was a done deal either, he went out of the way to say this was no guarantee.

Remain hopeful, and do what you can to help, but do it in the context of knowing we are way more likely than not to get nothing done this Congress.

Another bill that seems like a slam dunk, who doesn't want to protect children from pornography? There can't be anything bad about this bill right?

this is a really good post...I don't have time to participate in this thread any further until Friday. I wish the competent people success in dealing with the keyboard mashers.

After a brief morning period, we all need to rally back into the action plan and other options. Otherwise, we will slowly be picked off by DOJ/Homeland Security and lose the chance to play. States are still a final option for later in year or next year. Maybe cybersecurity, seems like a chance there, and at the end of the year one more shot.

Down but not out, just didn't hit the draw but we still got chips and dealer next hand please. Got to restart the charge on the one time machine.

This.

It seems that this opinion is in the minority, but it isn't. Posters that think this way don't spend too much time in the legislative forum because they don't see the point. Mostly, optimistic posters are going to post here.

I am very pessimistic too, but what I remember is that the plethora of casinos now across the US was an even bigger long shot circa 1980, then IGRA passed, so I do think there is hope.

Let's be honest, the only things that our government can get done at this point involve making corporate interests happy. My optimism comes solely from the fact that there is money involved and our corrupt system loves money. If casino interests can't get the congress critters to do this then we don't stand a chance plain and simple.

Right you are sir and if our best hope is 10% or less of getting something. Sorry guys but me spending a half hour or more a day doing daily action plans is over. It sucks for me to say that and I have a feeling many more are thinking the same but for me this just isn't worth the time or head ache any more. I used to think the neh sayers where just trolls and pricks but I'm starting to think they are smarter than the rest of us.

Posting on twitter and facebook is quickly becoming a less needed thing in my day any more and when I look at the real chances of this actually happening and THEN it being any time soon I just dont see me doing it any more.

PS. I am in no way blaming the PPA, karak, slugger or anyone else. I just simply feel like our best efforts were not enough.

I hope I’m wrong but I don’t think they’ll pass online regulation until after the November election.

I’d be shocked if either side of the aisle wants to give their opposition any opportunity to use gambling/corrupting the youth of America as campaign issue.

Once the election is over, they will pass legislation easily with the lame-duck congress.

I think it will definitely happen, it’s just a question of when. The Big Time brick and mortar casinos have eliminated the pirate outfits (PS & FTP). Now, they just have to appease the Indian casinos and then it’s business as usual.

I graduated from college 4 years ago. And you don't know what I do irl. You should stop assuming things.

a fair-skinned blonde lady on cnn was saying the cmte is 50 billion in revenue away from paying for the UE and other parts of the payroll cut.

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Anyone who has participated in the Daily Action Plan knows that it takes less than 2 minutes, possibly less time than it took you to formulate your post about not participating.

U mad zerg?

Taking a game tonight imo.

Karak if indeed the text of the bill has no UIGEA-II, are you still bullish on its passage in a short time frame?

I've been at work all day I'm not up to date on what's going on now

How can you say what PPA would do when you state that you don't know if there even was any attempt to block inclusion?

You push for a boycott a lot. How many people do you think would participate? Would you like to do this for ego...to teach opponents a lesson? The best thing about that is that if we did it and it failed, you'd blame PPA for it. Regardless, I believe we have better tools at our disposal.

Anyway, I'm not aware of any casino interests blocking this. We'll simply keep pressing our case and pushing for legislation to go forward.

I'm glad to be freerolling federal legislation knowing my state is gonna pass Igaming. Still sweat federal bill as a preference but feel bad for the folks in states with no B&M. I can still go play live poker. It's easy and I can keep my hobby up relatively easily. That held me over. NJ saying they want to do it after the wire act decision is even better. I always think of the people who don't have that option and that's why I want a federal bill. Plus player pool obv.

People that got super dejected really need to not get expectations so high on these things. Things are moving some what but I feel like I have no real bearing on the situation on the federal level.

Sorry, I do not buy into the "it's all about the money" view of politics. While it is psychologically soothing to cram problems into a one-dimensional box, it is also far too simplistic. Yes, money is hugely important, but it is not the only aspect. Many people are motivated by other things: social conservatives by morality, Soccer Moms by the desire to protect their kids, PETA types by the desire to protect animals, Libertarians by the desire to protect the Constitution, etc.

Ron Paul and Rick Santorum, for example, have one thing in common, and probably only one thing, and that is both are true believers in their politics and won't sell their core beliefs for money.

Politics is a very nuanced and complex adventure, influenced greatly by money, but not only by money.

To the discouraged:

Did the % of ipoker happening this year drop at all between two weeks ago and now? Two weeks ago, I would have put the % of something to happen in February as a real long shot, and it wasn't until slugger/Karak hinted some insider info a few days ago that we really had a sweat going. Don't let a period of raised expectations ruin you going forward.

Keep doing the damn daily plan. I only started the facebook portion recently, and it's actually pretty insane what a small group of people can do. When I got in I saw ~10-20 core regulars taking up 50-80% of the walls of many congressmen. I'm not saying facebook is a big deal for these guys but most of them obviously have someone on their staff in charge of social media relations who they likely ask for updates from time to time.

There is going to be a time when Reid or Kyl brings up ipoker to a larger group of congressmen and we can either have them think (a) ugh, how's that gonna go over with my constituency or (b) oh yea, that's the thing that all over my twitter/facebook.

Anyways this was the first real sweat in the new era and it'd be a shame to quit after just one. (The new era being post-DOJ decision, tribal committee seemingly 'ok', Reid/Kyl talking.)