But where will the money for the tax cuts be coming from? Will it be from vulnerable family members and children who will be caught up in gambling addictions produced by Ipoker regulation, or will it be from the money drained from families now by off-shore sites that skirt the law and offer no protection for vulnerable gamblers?

a pro gambling bill slipping quietly by is almost nil adding election season makes it even closer or absolutely nil

it wouldn't be pro-gambling. it'd implement more stringent prohibitions against online gambling --exempting online poker, which some people believe to be a game of skill.

(paraphrasing the future jon kyl)

The bill is likely going to prohibit all gambling except poker, like HR2366. Or it'll likely "strengthen" the UIGEA.

depends where you get your propaganda from imo.

Exactly - that's why I think it'll be covered so much: from the media pov, you have 2 ~"sellable", convenient perspectives. But FYP a bit.

P.S. Save the kids

Straight from the Nevada Governor's twitter:

so we fail then?

wat?

Governor saying the GGB tweet is BS is bad for us or is it a level?

Go read the OP and come back when the validity of that tweet matters.

Awesome, more snotty remarks for seeking information

It is possible that this tweet from GGB was based off of a fallacious source or it's possible that Gov. Sandoval did in fact inform execs of an attachment but for political reasons is publicly denying.

I just don't see how two unrelated media outlets both made the same claim within hours of each other. That would be quite a coincidence.

Which goes back to how this site is moderated. How can a thread be allowed without a source?

Sad.

This thread should have been locked hours ago.

Payroll-Tax Cut Talks Move Behind Closed Doors

it means SHHHHHHHHHHH

I think I was onto something with the "Cone of Silence".

everybody understands the significance of the tweet, we're not a newspaper delivering information to readers. We are free to post any rumors and I would hope you would have a sense of personal responsibility/freedom. This isn't a prison and it's not a website that is delivering factual news.

Also, I suggest you read the article posted in the OP. The main quote in there is from a named source.

i mean at least be SLIGHTLY covert and call the top vegas execs on your shoephone. we all know all governors are given one by CIA... (did you REALLY think mrs Palin's $400k wardrobe bill was for clothing you just can buy at a shop? please. if you did you're either more foolish than i thought or you're in on it.)

this thread makes sense with what lots of people who know have been saying. the tweet is interesting, but im pretty sure denying it is standard procedure at this point. i doubt kyl and reid would want a governor breaking their deal for them, especially since this is something they likely want to keep quiet.

As a long time antneye fan, this is epic I believe you this time, man.

The only reason Kyl is supporting this is to ban all other forms of gambling. He is willing to give into poker as he see's it as the lesser of all the other games. This is going to be spun in a positive light as something that is going to prevent people from being able to play more dangerous and addicting forms of gambling like online slot machines. They are also going to say it is going to protect underage people from having access to illegal gambling sites,which they currently can access. The whole bill is going to be more about banning and protecting the people then it is going to be about poker which is the only way they could get something like this passed.

Speaking to this, as much as poker players want to hear about this I would assume the general public either does not care or is against Ipoker, as they likely think its the same as Igaming.

I would assume both Reid and Kyl would want a bill to get as little press as possible until its passed, then tout UIEGA 2/ Ipoker to their respective constituencies.

I think there are two big things working in our favor. One, is that Republicans took such a beating over the tax cut a few months ago that they may just want to get it behind them this time and speed a deal through. In that regard, the fact that it is an election year helps us. I am not saying an Ipoker deal won't get scrutiny, I am saying it may not be long, drawn out scrutiny, because the legislative process may be short and sweet.

The second thing that helps us is that Kyl is behind this apparently. That is huge imo. It is not just that he is a leading republican, it is that he has been a leader at curbing online gaming in the past. Historically, when controversial things pass, it is often because a staunch proponent on one side, flips.

Of course, I can think of reasons to be pessimistic too, but I don't want to today. My mommy said I don't have to so I'm not.

Well that's the rub I was trying to get at. Certainly, it can be spun that the bill is about banning and protecting, but I am not convinced leading social conservatives in an election year will go along with that spin. I hope so, or at least, they just shut their gd mouths for once.

My first thought was that the UIGEA-II angle would predominate. But iPoker is a lot sexier than UIGEA-II and will probably get most of the media attention, which may not be all that great in any case.