its really the other way around. u paying him back implies u feel u did something wrong.

I did do something wrong though, I stole from him (not much but still), lied about my bankroll, and left the front door to his apartment unlocked which then led to a substantial sum of cash being stolen.

I dont get it man, like I know its a tough spot and I could easily tell him to GFO, but its not worth it

oh for gods sake, is it just me or since when do apparmtment doors not snap shut when you close them, christ.

How far is Ann Arbor from Benton Harbor? I know some thugs you can recruit for a price.

so u just do whatever he tells u? bc he says hes gonna kill u? well, he can ask u to do anything then.

*** being on constant alert. u have agreed to be this dudes indentured servant. do u realize how hard and long it takes to go from 0 to 30k? even for a decent poker player or creative and talented person this aint easy. i dont think u fit either category.

BUT YOU DIDNT STEAL HIS 30K SO WHY THE *** WOULD U PAY THAT BACK AFDOAFDJKADSJLDKLSFJL;JDSLAFSDAFSLKADSLF

because alex hinted he would kill him if he doesnt, why dont you get this part?

victor, how much of this thread have you read?

alex already hinted that he will lower the debt after OP shows hes serious about paying back some of it.

I agree 100% Fetzi. Thats why I thought it would be no big deal if I left the appartment unlocked, especially considering that I was planning on only being gone for a short period of time. With all that said, the chance that this was a "random" robbery is reallllly unlikely

And victor i may have ****ed this situation up pretty badly, but saying that Im not creative or talented (compared to MOST people, sure im probably a downie compared to the upper echelon of twoplustwo) is untrue.

Im also not that bad at poker. I have been supporting myself for 3 years now with poker as my sole source of income. And plus intelpoker rated me as an above average player lol

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So do you want some hired muscle and guns or what?

With all that said, I agree going from 0 to 30k is going to be extremely tough. It would be even more difficult if Alex said I had to pay X amount each month. But thats not the case. He just wants to see that Im making an effort to pay him back.
Now if he retracts his statement and tells me I have to pay X amount each month and X amount isnt good enough, then I will tell him to GFO

is it possible that alex never went to italy? what was your exact conversation regarding this trip? when did he tell you he was going on this trip? was his initial plan just to be gone for about 12 hours? did he have shopping bags full? was his wife there when you came back?

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BUT OP U WILL DIE???!!!!!!!!!??????????

NOOOOOOOOOOO

because OP has no other good options right now.

If op was indeed lying and trying to scam money then this would be uber complex scam with very low possible profit. No intelligent scammer would spend so much time towards something that isnt probably gonna show any great profits, thus I believe OP. In the same time he could have done alot of better scams or anything for that matter.

This is ******ed "hole", firstly NLL had a good answer for this and secondly when you fly from europe to US you go "back in time" because you will be jumping time zones, did you even think about this JSB, I guess not?

Also this is very sick because theres no way Alex guy will admit to scamming OP even if he did, and theres no way someone could prove this. Its like uber professional, no way to get around it, but prolly theres a chance that he isnt required to pay the whole 30k.. but its tough spot if he really got threatened.

Read the whole thread, very interesting imo

or he can tell alex to *** off.

Yes...I did consider time zones...very unlikely though! I've already proved my holes. And considering OP still won't answer the question about 30K in Euros or US dollars before they left...there's more I have left to say.

Like I said...the majority has already spoken...it's a fake story totally or most of the key parts are.

This may have been answered before in this thread but where were you playing in Nice?

Their casino didn't have hold'em as of last year.....

ok guys, I did a little research and found a pic of Alex.

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1 more page until OP asks for hand outs to "repay" "Alex".

Yea, pretty sure Alex is a figment of your imagination, but nice try.

go watch "The Big Lebowski" immediately, and that will explain the pic, I would explain it but i dont wanna ruin the movie for you.

Seen it a long time ago...will have to re-watch