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01-03-2023 , 01:15 AM
Players looked way worse than any I've seen after an injury.
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01-03-2023 , 01:19 AM
It's amazing how some of you people can't recognize the effect of seeing a fellow player or teammate go down, see them get cpr, and not know if they're alive or not could have on the players going back on the field. They play for our entertainment but they're people and the people I'm addressing are treating them as less than people and y'all can eat a dick.
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01-03-2023 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Regardless of whether you think it’s an easy decision or not the reality of the situation is that maybe only one man had the power to make it
He gets paid $64 million/year to make that decision.
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01-03-2023 , 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Cool story, easy to do and you look all noble doing it so it’s an easy win for you

I’m just giving a dose a reality, now is not really the time to get in NFL’s face for not instantly doing something that has never been done before. And in fact we have recent precedent of the game going on after a soccer player was given CPR

Flame me if you want, but we all know I’m right

That said, I’m happy it’s postponed. But some people in NFL are going to have to make some tough decisions in near future
somebody correct me if im wrong, the soccer players went back into the locker room and then UEFA let the players decide if they wanted to play and then the game continued about 3-4 hours later once his condition was known. that is not at all comparable to the nfl telling players they have 5 minutes to warm up and get ready without consulting them or listening to their input
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01-03-2023 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by NJPW
It's amazing how some of you people can't recognize the effect of seeing a fellow player or teammate go down, see them get cpr, and not know if they're alive or not could have on the players going back on the field. They play for our entertainment but they're people and the people I'm addressing are treating them as less than people and y'all can eat a dick.
Ok, rant away and it’s easy to look all noble doing it, but you do realize that probably only Roger Goodell had the power to postpone, right?

I’m just relaying the reality behind the situation

Last edited by ScotchOnDaRocks; 01-03-2023 at 01:39 AM.
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01-03-2023 , 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by RT
That's the point tho. If this was a Kevin Everett-type situation where he was awake albeit unable to move, you might be able to go on, but there's just not a modern parallel to "Welp, we literally don't know if that ambulance is transporting a corpse right now. Five minutes fellas!".

Unless the update was that he had passed away, you aren't getting and update any time soon and regardless, 105 guys that had just watched a player get shocked and CPR'd for 9 minutes aren't playing again any time soon.
but we got the update, you literally posted it like 100 minutes ago (which means it was known earlier than that): he's at the hospital getting the best treatment, he'll live, etc

you wait for that and maybe you salvage the game tonight or tomorrow, who knows. you order everyone back out there with his condition unknown and they tell you to **** off
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01-03-2023 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
somebody correct me if im wrong, the soccer players went back into the locker room and then UEFA let the players decide if they wanted to play and then the game continued about 3-4 hours later once his condition was known. that is not at all comparable to the nfl telling players they have 5 minutes to warm up and get ready
Even if that’s the case it still might be comparable.

The NFL said to warm up, the players said no, and that was that as far as we know. So the players did decide.

Jumping all over the NFL right now is as nonsensical as it was many years ago for blaming Roger Goodell because Ray Rice dragged a girl by her hair
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01-03-2023 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by RT
He gets paid $64 million/year to make that decision.
edit: didn't read evwething
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01-03-2023 , 01:27 AM
Would have been absolutely incredible if the league had forced them to go back out in a lightning storm.
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01-03-2023 , 01:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Hellmuth was right
somebody correct me if im wrong, the soccer players went back into the locker room and then UEFA let the players decide if they wanted to play and then the game continued about 3-4 hours later once his condition was known. that is not at all comparable to the nfl telling players they have 5 minutes to warm up and get ready without consulting them or listening to their input
from wiki:

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On 12 June, while playing in Denmark's opening group stage match against Finland at the Parken Stadium in Copenhagen, Eriksen collapsed in the 42nd minute as he was about to receive a throw-in. Urgent medical assistance arrived immediately, and cardiopulmonary resuscitation and defibrillation were performed on the field before Eriksen was taken off the pitch on a stretcher and the match was suspended. Around an hour after the incident, UEFA and Danish Football Association (DBU) officials confirmed from the Rigshospitalet Hospital that Eriksen had been stabilised and was awake. The match continued later that evening, resulting in a 1–0 victory for Finland

[...] The decision to continue the match was also criticised by Peter Schmeichel, father of Denmark's keeper Kasper, who said that UEFA had threatened the team with a 3–0 loss if they refused to finish the match later on that day or the following day at noon, leaving the players with "no choice" but to continue.
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01-03-2023 , 01:28 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Ok, rant away and it’s easy to look all noble doing it, but you do realize that probably only Roger Goodell had the power to postpone, right?

I’m just relating the reality behind the situation
deleted cause lol u just a troll
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01-03-2023 , 01:28 AM
Dr chiming in with what he thinks happened. Still a little speculative but possibly relevant

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01-03-2023 , 01:31 AM
That's the guy who killed those 4 Idaho college kids. fyi.
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01-03-2023 , 01:33 AM
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Originally Posted by NJPW
It's amazing how some of you people can't recognize the effect of seeing a fellow player or teammate go down, see them get cpr, and not know if they're alive or not could have on the players going back on the field. They play for our entertainment but they're people and the people I'm addressing are treating them as less than people and y'all can eat a dick.
Many here have never even been on a team which explains A LOT
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01-03-2023 , 01:33 AM
Is Rog going to make these teams play like 3 games in 10 days now?
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01-03-2023 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by NJPW
deleted cause lol u just a troll
Yeah you know I’m right though
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01-03-2023 , 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Even if that’s the case it still might be comparable.

The NFL said to warm up, the players said no, and that was that as far as we know. So the players did decide.

Jumping all over the NFL right now is as nonsensical as it was many years ago for blaming Roger Goodell because Ray Rice dragged a girl by her hair
there's a big difference b/w the nfl asking the players if they want to play and telling them "we're starting in 5 mins" and the players refusing to play.
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01-03-2023 , 01:53 AM
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01-03-2023 , 01:56 AM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
Even if that’s the case it still might be comparable.

The NFL said to warm up, the players said no, and that was that as far as we know. So the players did decide.

Jumping all over the NFL right now is as nonsensical as it was many years ago for blaming Roger Goodell because Ray Rice dragged a girl by her hair
lol wtf. Players deciding to play on their own volition vs them deciding to play under duress from management are the same because the players decided in both situations.

Again, GFY.
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01-03-2023 , 02:32 AM
I think it's a brain bleed and he's essentially dead. Just a matter of when his family decides to take him off life support.
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01-03-2023 , 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Neuge
lol wtf. Players deciding to play on their own volition vs them deciding to play under duress from management are the same because the players decided in both situations.

Again, GFY.
It’s just lame to be pointing fingers at NFL, they were just continuing on as others have done in the past following broken necks, legs split in half, and heart attacks.

The players said no and it quickly ended the matter.

No reason to get angry at the whole thing, boycott the NFL if you think they are insensitive or out right evil. I’m sure you won’t though.

Last edited by ScotchOnDaRocks; 01-03-2023 at 03:11 AM.
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01-03-2023 , 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by borg23
there's a big difference b/w the nfl asking the players if they want to play and telling them "we're starting in 5 mins" and the players refusing to play.
So I’m assuming you know exactly what was discussed? I’m not really sure how forceful they were telling them to play considering all the players had to do was say no and then the game ended up being canceled. “Telling them” implies there was some kind of threat of “play or else”. Saying they have five minutes and then allowing them to postpone with no threats is essentially the same as asking, I can’t believe I need to state the obvious like this.

Again very lame to use this to vent pent up anger against NFL and Goodell. There is zero precedent of this and only one man had power to postpone. So I don’t think it’s an unforgivable sin that it wasn’t decided and made official right away. They are allowed be a little stunned like everyone else and take time to gather information and any delay certainly didn’t impact any care he was getting.

Last edited by ScotchOnDaRocks; 01-03-2023 at 03:10 AM.
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01-03-2023 , 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by esad
Just last year Christian Erikson collapsed on the field at the Euros and they administered CPR on the field. I guess people just forget this stuff. That match was postponed.

https://www.espn.com/soccer/denmark-...land-postponed
These were my exact thoughts comparing it to what happened today.
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01-03-2023 , 03:32 AM
Why do you keep saying "only one man had the power to postpone"?



How is that even a point? Yes, Roger had the power and people are criticizing his handling of it.
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01-03-2023 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Why do you keep saying "only one man had the power to postpone"?



How is that even a point? Yes, Roger had the power and people are criticizing his handling of it.
Umm he wasn’t there on the ground and who knows where he was and when he was contacted. Then he’s allowed to gather information and assess.

Just seems awful lame, just pent up jealous anger at the man. It’s like he dragged that girl out of the elevator by the hair all over again. Well that was Ray Rice, but he took the heat
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