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NFL 2022 Game Thread Week 17 & Damar Hamlin Discussion (Starting Post #409) Containment Thread NFL 2022 Game Thread Week 17 & Damar Hamlin Discussion (Starting Post #409) Containment Thread

01-03-2023 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ScotchOnDaRocks
And again who says they don’t know, maybe they know exactly but don’t want to take focus away on the player

In fact I bet if they did announce it was a tie most of y’all would throw a hissy fit that it is disrespectful somehow. You probably know this is true
you're a very obtuse individual, or a pro-level troll. i thought is was the latter last night but now am leaning towards the former

tarheels and anyone else itt can speculate about what the NFL will do, what they'd do, etc. ** in regards to the postponed game and the seeding in the AFC ** with the knowledge that non-trolls itt know the #1 concern in that poster's heart is Hamlin's medical condition improving
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01-03-2023 , 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
I love how he tries to leave it open-ended, but there is basically a 0% chance they will be able to make the schedule work to finish this game. He should have just said it’s a tie and that’s that.
There is the same possibility the NFL used in 2001.

Week 2 games (9/16) were postponed and rescheduled for a new Week 17 (1/6).

The Super Bowl date can't realistically be changed. So, the NFL reduced the two weeks in between the Conference Championship games and Super Bowl to just one week.


The Bills and Bengals could restart their game in a new Week 19 while all the other playoff teams have a week off.

Again, the NFL would have to shorten the Super Bowl hype to just one week.
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01-03-2023 , 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
There is the same possibility the NFL used in 2001.

Week 2 games (9/16) were postponed and rescheduled for a new Week 17 (1/6).

The Super Bowl date can't realistically be changed. So, the NFL reduced the two weeks in between the Conference Championship games and Super Bowl to just one week.


The Bills and Bengals could restart their game in a new Week 19 while all the other playoff teams have a week off.

Again, the NFL would have to shorten the Super Bowl hype to just one week.
It seems like the only possibility to get this game in, and I know it has massive seeding implications at the top of the AFC. But I think it’ll be hard to justify the schedule movement for one game as opposed to the entire weekly slate back in 2001.

It’s also a shitty spot to give all other playoff teams one week off, the bye teams two, while asking the Bengals and Bills to play. But I guess they really only got in 9 minutes of game time last night.
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01-03-2023 , 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
But I think it’ll be hard to justify the schedule movement for one game as opposed to the entire weekly slate back in 2001.
I disagree.

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It’s also a shitty spot to give all other playoff teams one week off, the bye teams two, while asking the Bengals and Bills to play. But I guess they really only got in 9 minutes of game time last night.
And they were the ones who, understandably, decided not to play.

Can't complain now if they actually have to play while others sit.
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01-03-2023 , 05:12 PM
if the NFL doesn't make a concession like Dynasty is alluding to, it calls into question the integrity of the entire season. it's not just the battle for the #1 seed in the AFC, but the #2 seed is also in play

let's say KC wins their final game, CIN beats BUF in the postponed game, BUF and CIN win their 'week 18' games ... these results land CIN the #2 seed. if the game is ruled a tie, BUF is likely to land the #2 seed. obv this is huge bc, if the seeding holds true in the WC round, it would mean the difference of CIN going to Highmark or BUF going to Paycor in the divisional round
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01-03-2023 , 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
The reasons I watch and support the NFL have nothing to do with ole Rog or the owners.
Lol seems obvious, none of us watch because we like Rog and owners, most of us are just honest about the fact that it’s modern day gladiators. None of them forced into it though of course

but you need to follow your principles and stop supporting the product run by these terrible people!
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01-03-2023 , 05:24 PM
ESPN And Joe Buck Stand Behind Initial 5-Minute Warmup Report After Damar Hamlin Collapsed, Despite The NFL’s Denial

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After Hamlin was taken to the hospital, there was a point when Buck said on the air that the teams were told they would have five minutes to warm-up. The information about the game resuming, Buck said, came from ESPN’s rules expert John Parry, who was in direct communication with the league. (NFL EVP Troy Vincent later denied the NFL was going to resume the game, but did not say anything in real time). ESPN showed Bengals quarterback Joe Burrow throwing as if he expected the game to continue.

“They said they’re going to give five minutes of a warm-up to these players to get ready,” Buck said via phone.
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ESPN backed Buck’s statement up, stating there was no speculation on air and they were relaying information as it came in and changed throughout the situation.

Buck wasn’t the only one that relayed the 5-minute warmup information, as it was likewise stated on ESPN Deportes and by Rich Eisen on the Westwood One radio call.
https://uproxx.com/sports/espn-joe-b...l-nfl-dispute/

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01-03-2023 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
you're a very obtuse individual, or a pro-level troll. i thought is was the latter last night but now am leaning towards the former

tarheels and anyone else itt can speculate about what the NFL will do, what they'd do, etc. ** in regards to the postponed game and the seeding in the AFC ** with the knowledge that non-trolls itt know the #1 concern in that poster's heart is Hamlin's medical condition improving
I’m top notch but I’m not sure you understood what I said.

You claim the nfl can’t figure out what to do and they need to be able to walk and chew gum at same time. (Riveting analogy btw).

But we all know that even if they announced their plan we’d probably be seeing posts like “ how disrespectful is the nfl to announce their plan while Hamlin is fighting for his life!!”. In other words, a hissy fit would be thrown regardless
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01-03-2023 , 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ligastar
if the NFL doesn't make a concession like Dynasty is alluding to, it calls into question the integrity of the entire season. it's not just the battle for the #1 seed in the AFC, but the #2 seed is also in play

let's say KC wins their final game, CIN beats BUF in the postponed game, BUF and CIN win their 'week 18' games ... these results land CIN the #2 seed. if the game is ruled a tie, BUF is likely to land the #2 seed. obv this is huge bc, if the seeding holds true in the WC round, it would mean the difference of CIN going to Highmark or BUF going to Paycor in the divisional round
Right, it's like what MLB does.

If this was Denver vs Oakland on Thursday night, decent chance the game doesn't happen. The stakes are too high here. Ratings will be thru the roof too.
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01-03-2023 , 05:30 PM
Cover-up is always worse than the crime.

Rog with the Trump playbook. Let's see if this ginger can stay teflon too.

I'm sure the NFL/Rog is mad that Buck isn't being LOYAL.
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01-03-2023 , 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
I disagree.



And they were the ones who, understandably, decided not to play.

Can't complain now if they actually have to play while others sit.
Fair enough. If they move forward with the week 19 scenario, then it seems they'd need to make a decision before the week 18 games. What about teams like the Giants and Bucs who have nothing to play for and were potentially planning to rest players this weekend, but now they may not want a 2 week layoff?
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01-03-2023 , 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty
There is the same possibility the NFL used in 2001.

Week 2 games (9/16) were postponed and rescheduled for a new Week 17 (1/6).

The Super Bowl date can't realistically be changed. So, the NFL reduced the two weeks in between the Conference Championship games and Super Bowl to just one week.
The Bills and Bengals could restart their game in a new Week 19 while all the other playoff teams have a week off.
I was wondering if they'll let week 18 play out and then determine whether or not the game matters. Unfortunately, I tried to find a scenario where that wouldn't be the case, and none immediately jumped out.

The other alternative is to just declare the game a no contest, and seed teams by points percentage; there's some precedent for this in the NHL where in the COVID season, the year ended with some teams playing different amounts of total games. I think this will be the resolution the NFL chooses.

Sports bets on all sites will be voided likely soon; most books have some sort of T&C stating that if a game is suspended and not completed within the playing week (which would end Wednesday night), the bets are voided unless they are conclusively decided (eg, a first TD scorer bet would be settled since a TD was scored).

The weird question is how to handle fantasy football finals, especially given that these two teams undoubtedly had players on championship teams. Maybe count their week 18 scores? I don't know if the sites can even handle that.
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01-03-2023 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by tarheels2222
Fair enough. If they move forward with the week 19 scenario, then it seems they'd need to make a decision before the week 18 games. What about teams like the Giants and Bucs who have nothing to play for and were potentially planning to rest players this weekend, but now they may not want a 2 week layoff?
If a week 19 make up game (would it start over or from where it was suspended?) is on the table, BUF & CIN should be able to accept/decline that if both are in agreement. But the decision would need to be made before this Saturday's kickoffs.

Not sure there is a solution that is fair to all teams, but something like that might be as close at it gets.

I think we can all agree that there are some great minds at NFL HQ and they'll come up with a workable solution that doesn't impact their bottom line too much.
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01-03-2023 , 05:48 PM
I'd put it 75% no contest/tie, 25% push playoffs back a week. Pushing it back a week is the most sensible to keep integrity of the season, but I'm guessing NFL would just as soon move forward and award the tie. All the tiebreaker rules work, and it gives NFL a chance to clarify what they will do if/when a game cannot continue, for whatever reason.

They had to deal with this during Covid, but they got away with delaying games 2 or 3 days. Moving games work for weather situations, but stuff like natural disasters need some kind of response plan. Now they can work on that so everybody knows what the response will be, instead of playing it by ear.
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01-03-2023 , 05:50 PM
lol so many idiots in this forum.
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01-03-2023 , 05:54 PM
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01-03-2023 , 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Cover-up is always worse than the crime.

Rog with the Trump playbook. Let's see if this ginger can stay teflon too.

I'm sure the NFL/Rog is mad that Buck isn't being LOYAL.
Good for Buck. Can't recall ever saying that before.

I guess the NFL just thought that one of their "partners" would fall on their sword for everyone's financial benefit. ROG probably raging that Romo and Nantz weren't calling the game.
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01-03-2023 , 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
If a week 19 make up game (would it start over or from where it was suspended?) is on the table, BUF & CIN should be able to accept/decline that if both are in agreement. But the decision would need to be made before this Saturday's kickoffs.

Not sure there is a solution that is fair to all teams, but something like that might be as close at it gets.

I think we can all agree that there are some great minds at NFL HQ and they'll come up with a workable solution that doesn't impact their bottom line too much.
the NFL is using resume in their official PR releases (which is obv as it should be)

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01-03-2023 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Ames
Good for Buck. Can't recall ever saying that before.

I guess the NFL just thought that one of their "partners" would fall on their sword for everyone's financial benefit. ROG probably raging that Romo and Nantz weren't calling the game.
so much truth dripping from this post i'll need to pack my laptop in a bag of rice for the rest of the evening
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01-03-2023 , 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Punker
I was wondering if they'll let week 18 play out and then determine whether or not the game matters. Unfortunately, I tried to find a scenario where that wouldn't be the case, and none immediately jumped out.

The other alternative is to just declare the game a no contest, and seed teams by points percentage; there's some precedent for this in the NHL where in the COVID season, the year ended with some teams playing different amounts of total games. I think this will be the resolution the NFL chooses.

Sports bets on all sites will be voided likely soon; most books have some sort of T&C stating that if a game is suspended and not completed within the playing week (which would end Wednesday night), the bets are voided unless they are conclusively decided (eg, a first TD scorer bet would be settled since a TD was scored).

The weird question is how to handle fantasy football finals, especially given that these two teams undoubtedly had players on championship teams. Maybe count their week 18 scores? I don't know if the sites can even handle that.
Draftkings sports book voided already
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01-03-2023 , 08:03 PM
public service announcement
please don't let your brain imagine the velvety sound of tony emo and nuntz trying to fill 30 minutes of broadcast with the verbal equivalent of repeatedly shaking hands with a dead fish
i may not be able to sleep tonight

the more i think about it, the more i'm convinced romo is angling for the masters job when nantz retires

Spoiler:
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01-03-2023 , 10:28 PM
Public Service Announcement:

I'm not going to call out any posters or infract anyone aorn.

But I do suspect there has been some (genuinely bad) trolling itt.

If you suspect someone is trolling then don't reply to them, nor attack them verbally. If you could all just ignore anyone who you suspect is trolling, that would be great...



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01-04-2023 , 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Punker
I was wondering if they'll let week 18 play out and then determine whether or not the game matters. Unfortunately, I tried to find a scenario where that wouldn't be the case, and none immediately jumped out.

The other alternative is to just declare the game a no contest, and seed teams by points percentage; there's some precedent for this in the NHL where in the COVID season, the year ended with some teams playing different amounts of total games. I think this will be the resolution the NFL chooses.

Sports bets on all sites will be voided likely soon; most books have some sort of T&C stating that if a game is suspended and not completed within the playing week (which would end Wednesday night), the bets are voided unless they are conclusively decided (eg, a first TD scorer bet would be settled since a TD was scored).

The weird question is how to handle fantasy football finals, especially given that these two teams undoubtedly had players on championship teams. Maybe count their week 18 scores? I don't know if the sites can even handle that.
the nba also had teams playing different amounts of games in the covid year.
although in both sports the playoff system was also altered bc of the shortened season.
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01-04-2023 , 09:18 AM
interesting take on a 'solution' for the AFC playoffs if the BUF/CIN game is cancelled and ruled a tie. not sure why BUF would get the bye (this solution obv won't happen)

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01-04-2023 , 09:46 AM
Yeah I'll bet owners would love neutral playoff games with all ticket proceeds going to charity
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