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12-23-2018 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Is USADA still using the same equipment? The reason I ask is because the text mentions they increased the sensitivity 2 years ago and I'm not sure when the text was written. Obviously this is something that USADA needs to explain and we should hold them accountable. However, there is also no reason to jump the gun and assume USADA is lying about this.

BTW, I just happened to watch the UFC Short about USADA and one thing they mentioned is that the testers don't know which fighter they are testing. So my question would be who determined that this was from 2 years ago. Was it the people performing the tests that didn't know it was Jon Jones or was that determination made after the test results returned by people who knew the test was for Jon Jones?
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12-23-2018 , 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by electricladylnd
So they are saying there is a leftover trace of a banned substance from 2017 still in JJ system?
Yes,they're also saying:

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UFC VP of Athlete Health and Performance Jeff Novitzky said Jones’ positive test is not a violation.
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12-23-2018 , 09:43 PM
It's like a vasectomy, if your wife gets pregnant after a few weeks from procedure, OK, even several months, if she gets pregnant over a year later, she is fvcking another guy.
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12-23-2018 , 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RT
Yes,they're also saying:



Dad, I failed the drug test cause people were smoking weed at the party I was at.
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12-23-2018 , 09:46 PM
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It's like a vasectomy, if your wife gets pregnant after a few weeks from procedure, OK, even several months, if she gets pregnant over a year later, she is fvcking another guy.
I've got super potent sperm, Joe
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12-23-2018 , 09:48 PM
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Dad, I failed the drug test cause people were smoking weed at the party I was at.
Coach, I swear I just tried steriods that one time 9 years ago...and then for 9 years after that.
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12-23-2018 , 09:54 PM
I just checked pubmed. The only 2 papers I could find said the window of detection for this metabolite is 40-50 days.

JBJ might literally be ******ed
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12-23-2018 , 09:55 PM
I swear to god, I was gonna make a post here predicting a JBJ win by tko, then a no contest declaration if he pisses hot. I am a prophet.
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12-23-2018 , 10:01 PM
Pretty soon the only place Jon will be able to fight will be on the undercard here:

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12-23-2018 , 11:18 PM




****ing amazing
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12-23-2018 , 11:31 PM
Is this a little bit of Dana knows Jon Jones will never fight in the ufc again and/or Dana already cashed out and is super wealthy so **** it?
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12-23-2018 , 11:36 PM
Fighters whining about changing venues are stupid. Do they not realize that without this fight there is no event? They could just cancel it like UFC 151.

This is nowhere close to as last minute as UFC 12. All of the fighters, personnel, equipment, and cage had already arrived in Buffalo NY and then the day before the event they had to move the entire show over 1000 miles to Dothan Alabama. Fighters didn't even arrive in Dothan until 5:30am the day of the fights. So boo frickin who to the whiny undercard fighters that most people don't even care to see.
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12-23-2018 , 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ReliableSource
Is this a little bit of Dana knows Jon Jones will never fight in the ufc again and/or Dana already cashed out and is super wealthy so **** it?
USADA is saying Jones is good to go. Dana White has no control over USADA. Dana White also wouldn't cross the NSAC. He'd cancel the event before doing that.
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12-23-2018 , 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ReliableSource
Is this a little bit of Dana knows Jon Jones will never fight in the ufc again and/or Dana already cashed out and is super wealthy so **** it?
Few things:.

First, NSAC basically said they didn't have enough time to analyze the new test and would have to refuse Jones application for a licence but they would allow him to pull it (which won't count as a failure that other commisions would then respect) and reapply elsewhere. CSAC has been testing Jones because of his last suspension, so they said head on over.

Second, Dana is awful at his job and the number show that. Any card that isn't a Conor/Rousey/JBJ card basically does dick-all even with all of MMA's inherent advantages and that needs to fall at Dana's feet. This whole plan is Dana throwing some **** against the wall yet again to try and see what sticks.
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12-23-2018 , 11:51 PM
Well, really even most of Jon Jones cards haven't done that well in terms of PPV buys. None of them are even in the top 20 UFC PPVs of all time. Jones vs Gus 1 did 310k buys.
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12-24-2018 , 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Fighters whining about changing venues are stupid. Do they not realize that without this fight there is no event? They could just cancel it like UFC 151.
Not true just go wiki some junk UFC PPV events. They only need 1 title fight or 1 fake one which they have.
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12-24-2018 , 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Wrane
sometimes you are the worst but there are also times where you have gold

1/2 correct.

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12-24-2018 , 03:43 AM
No wonder Jon "18 month residue" Jones stay the fk away from VADA testing.
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12-24-2018 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Crusher
Fighters whining about changing venues are stupid. Do they not realize that without this fight there is no event? They could just cancel it like UFC 151.

This is nowhere close to as last minute as UFC 12. All of the fighters, personnel, equipment, and cage had already arrived in Buffalo NY and then the day before the event they had to move the entire show over 1000 miles to Dothan Alabama. Fighters didn't even arrive in Dothan until 5:30am the day of the fights. So boo frickin who to the whiny undercard fighters that most people don't even care to see.


It’s not just the fighters tho, it’s the spectators who already have tickets and travel plans.
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12-24-2018 , 10:51 AM
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Not true just go wiki some junk UFC PPV events. They only need 1 title fight or 1 fake one which they have.
I'm not sure what you want me to wiki. I've already watched every single UFC event that has ever taken place.

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It’s not just the fighters tho, it’s the spectators who already have tickets and travel plans.
Sure, it sucks for them but I'd blame the NSAC for that. From a business standpoint the UFC really has no choice here. This event absolutely needs this title fight to be successful. The casuals definitely won't buy it without that fight and frankly the main card wouldn't even be that great from a hardcore fan's perspective either.
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12-24-2018 , 12:21 PM
UFC knew since December 6th. And lol at the business angle. You think they would cancel the event if JBJ or Gus got injured?
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12-24-2018 , 12:27 PM
Whether they would cancel this event is irrelevant considering they would make more money having this event in LA with the main event intact than they would in Vegas without the main event.
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12-24-2018 , 04:14 PM
I'm glad the event is still going on because I'm more excited to watch it but if they canceled the fight the card would still go on and yes sell less.
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12-24-2018 , 05:13 PM
Jon Jones might be even a greater idiot than he is a fighter, it's really impressive
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12-24-2018 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Alpha Fish
Jon Jones might be even a greater idiot than he is a fighter, it's really impressive
He may be more of a scumbag than he is a great fighter, but he's not more of an idiot, although at times he does idiotic things. I do fully expect Jon Jones to do something to derail his career again in the future, but this ain't it.

It's an interesting case because essentially USADA is opening themselves up to lawsuits by fighters that they have suspended in the past. For instance, Frank Mir received a suspension for the same substance which apparently was at a similarly microscopic level as they found here. At the time they said it had to have been injested in the past few months. However, now they're like...uhhhh, oopsie that could have been from a couple years back.
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