The Warren derp again? No one has any evidence that she is or isn't NA, Harvard has explicitly said that race wasn't a factor in hiring her. Even if we assume the worst-case scenario, the worst we say say is that she padded her resume 15 years ago to get a job she was already eminently qualified for. It's as much a non-story as the Rubio fiasco.

HUH? plz to explain. How is trying to do an end run on american gun rights by selling guns to foreign drug cartels a good thing?

ohhh Derp... thats what I get for grunching

Lol if I pulled your worst case scenario I'd be blacklisted from ever getting into med school, but nbd obv.

We have a general gun control containment thread if you want to bump it.

I guess there are a few answers to this.

First of all you are confusing neocon positions with libertarianism this is understandable to and extent because the only good parts of neocon ideology are cribbed from libertarians. Sadly they pick and choose which parts they like.

Many if not most libertarians see law as a necessary evil to reduce the influence of governments and the mores of idiots on their lives. They accept that for now the constitution does this if people actually followed it.

From a constitutional standpoint government involvement in marriage outside of contract law is questionable at best (a proper case for the supremes would likely end up with civil unions for all, church weddings if you want without legal standing).

Firearms ownership is expressly permitted by by the constitution with no restriction whatsoever. As our law stands and as long as we have states that are subject to the constitution then laws restricting firearms are preempted and invalid.

From an AC style/pure libertarian perspective states/localities have the right to do as they see fit unless it harms another through force or fraud.

Since gay marriage harms no one it would be allowed. Since firearms themselves harm no one they would be allowed. I can see an argument where gay marriage or guns would be restricted in some areas of ACland, but that would be an aberrant non-libertarian society IMO

LOL only in your sick little troll mind bro.

THIS AINEC. basically it boils down to a justifiable use of force being turned into an anti-gun/gun owners are racist witchhunt.

JFC isn't there a liz warren containment thread or something? dumbest "controversy" ever imo.

Trust me the NRA realizes that and are constantly beating the war drums for more money to fight the socialist kenyan moosim... instead of actually fighting for gun rights they make sure to sabotage legislative efforts so they don't damage this crucial revenue stream.

Can we get the list?

Don't get misled by the lack of bullet holes, the real victims in every shooting are Southern wingnuts.

It's been like 15 years since gun control was part of the Democratic platform, bro. Obama is not going to take your guns. Please stop driving up ammo prices for the rest of us.

I did forget unnecessary capitalization of racial identifiers, which is probably still #1. The Martin case is shocking for just how ugly it gets, real quick. Like again, just go to your random local paper's website and check out the comments.

you realize that I'm sitting on stacks of ammo and "assault rifles" to sell after the election when the prices go sky high. Speculation FTW!

Meanwhile, in Texas:





Seriously tho, y'all CCW folks are paranoid. I don't see anyone turning the Trayvon thing into an anti-gun thing anywhere in the thread or in the popular media.

Hmm...I don't know, Obama is one supreme court appointment away from overturning incorporation of the second amendment, and possibly overturning individual gun ownership as a constitutional right. Obviously a vast left wing conspiracy to use to courts to take our rights and our guns away.

Seriously though, I'm surprised there hasn't been more screaming about this issue given both Heller and McDonald were 5-4 decisions. This could become the right wing's abortion. "Vote for us, or the court will take away your gun rights!"

I wouldn't worry too much about that. This SCOTUS is going to turn the country over to our corporate overlords then turn out the lights.

read the thread and all of the coverage. The position is basically that Zimmerman was an out of control vigilante because he had a gun. And that suporters of gun rights and stand your ground laws are lusting for shootouts in the street and a license to murder black babies.

Zim was an out of control vigilante because he was an out of control vigilante. And stand your ground is just terrible regardless of guns. For reals, you guys should cut your losses on this one, bc this isn't a winnning issue to hitch your wagon to.

Is it just possible that the whole thing is a tragic one-off situation between a couple of people who acted stupidly, which should have about as much bearing on national political matters as a fist-fight on Bad Girls Club?

Get that bull**** out of here. This is the most important issue of our time.

FWIW I pack and I am not worried about the zimmerman follies sparking some huge antigun deluge.

You have reincarnated that pony. The undergrad cartoonist (college paper there) was relieved of her duties fwiw.

zomg a whole 15 years!! who can even remember that far back.

what if we can remember back to 2008 in which Obama said he thought AK47s should be illegal and then his administration went on to say that it wanted to reinstate the assault weapons ban?

or is this not relevant because parties always 100% stick just solely to their platforms?

I was glad to see Obama supporting gun rights in the recent court cases as well.