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05-21-2012 , 06:02 PM
We should be spending on drug testing welfare recipients and mandatory minimum sentences.
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05-21-2012 , 06:10 PM
It never ends...

Did White House Doctor Photo of President "Throwing" Football?

"I'm not one for conspiracy theories. I prefer to base my opinions on demonstration fact that I can point to. However, after looking at an extremely odd photo of President Obama "throwing" a football, I have my doubts that this photo is real."

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/05/d...-photo-of.html
05-21-2012 , 06:23 PM
Cliffs:

05-21-2012 , 06:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrWookie
The American Chemical Society?
On a scale of 1 to Poindexter, how nerdy is it to have that be the first thing I thought of when I read that abbreviation?
05-21-2012 , 06:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
It never ends...

Did White House Doctor Photo of President "Throwing" Football?
05-21-2012 , 06:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
It never ends...

Did White House Doctor Photo of President "Throwing" Football?

"I'm not one for conspiracy theories. I prefer to base my opinions on demonstration fact that I can point to. However, after looking at an extremely odd photo of President Obama "throwing" a football, I have my doubts that this photo is real."

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/05/d...-photo-of.html
Srsly?
05-21-2012 , 06:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikestoys
It's just funny to see people bend facts to fit a preconceived narrative.
OK you're not really following directions.

1) Take it to the TM thread.

2) Explain what that narrative is and why the media wants to bend facts to fit it.
05-21-2012 , 06:56 PM
In case anyone is wondering why the Martin shooting thread is is the #3 thread in this forum's history,

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mckaycoppins...race-war-rages
05-21-2012 , 07:05 PM
Love it. The argument is essentially conservatives point out hypocrisy, therefore war is on.

K then
05-21-2012 , 07:16 PM
Please elaborate on exactly what hypocrisy you're referring to and the motivations behind it.
05-21-2012 , 07:24 PM
I don't really agree with the charge(I think the Martin story blew up because of the 911 tapes), but the article describes conservatives as pointing out hypocrisy in media coverage, therefore something something RACE WAR.
05-21-2012 , 07:25 PM
Yeah I can read. Please elaborate on exactly what hypocrisy you're referring to and the motivations behind it.
05-21-2012 , 07:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe
It never ends...

Did White House Doctor Photo of President "Throwing" Football?

"I'm not one for conspiracy theories. I prefer to base my opinions on demonstration fact that I can point to. However, after looking at an extremely odd photo of President Obama "throwing" a football, I have my doubts that this photo is real."

http://www.punditpress.com/2012/05/d...-photo-of.html

So, is this picture doctored? It's up to you to decide. However, the fact that the White House may have altered a picture of the President throwing a football speaks to how desperate they are to perfectly manicure his public image.
"We don't know if it's true. But let's all just assume it is. Isn't that ****ed up that they would do this?"
05-21-2012 , 07:42 PM
I don't know how to make that look the way I want, but I guess that works sort of
05-21-2012 , 07:43 PM
ikes,

The article describes ring wing media attempting to create a narrative about a rise in racially moviated black on white crime. Statistics do not support this notion in the least. That's not "pointing out hypocrisy".

There may very well be an argument to suggest that white on black crimes are reported (by the media) at some disproportionate level, but that's not the claim that's being made by the people discussed in the article at all.
05-21-2012 , 07:43 PM
And who the hell would compare throwing a baseball to throwing a football? I guess only somebody who's never actually done either of them.
05-21-2012 , 11:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FlyWf
Yeah I can read. Please elaborate on exactly what hypocrisy you're referring to and the motivations behind it.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dids
ikes,

The article describes ring wing media attempting to create a narrative about a rise in racially moviated black on white crime. Statistics do not support this notion in the least. That's not "pointing out hypocrisy".

There may very well be an argument to suggest that white on black crimes are reported (by the media) at some disproportionate level, but that's not the claim that's being made by the people discussed in the article at all.
You two are going to have to work out what you think that article is saying to get your strawman going.

And Fly, to be crystal ****ing clear, I don't think there's a strong hypocrisy in play. The Martin story isn't a huge story because of black on white or white on black, it's a big story because there's an audio tape detailing a large chunk of the incident. This is pretty easy to see because the story existed for a few weeks before the tapes were released and essentially no one cared. It didn't take off until the drama from the tape came out.

The hyporcrisy many on the right are referring to works on the assumption the Martin case took off because it was 'white' on black, and black on white or black on black crimes are treated vastly differently. The idea the right as a whole thinks it is in some sort of race war is ****ing absurd, even for you.
05-21-2012 , 11:28 PM
05-21-2012 , 11:36 PM
You wouldn't have guessed that she has a PHD from Brown in race and ethnic relations.
05-22-2012 , 12:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ikestoys
You two are going to have to work out what you think that article is saying to get your strawman going.

And Fly, to be crystal ****ing clear, I don't think there's a strong hypocrisy in play. The Martin story isn't a huge story because of black on white or white on black, it's a big story because there's an audio tape detailing a large chunk of the incident. This is pretty easy to see because the story existed for a few weeks before the tapes were released and essentially no one cared. It didn't take off until the drama from the tape came out.

The hyporcrisy many on the right are referring to works on the assumption the Martin case took off because it was 'white' on black, and black on white or black on black crimes are treated vastly differently. The idea the right as a whole thinks it is in some sort of race war is ****ing absurd, even for you.
Dude. I still don't understand what narrative the media was bending facts to fit into, and I still have no idea why the media is allegedly motivated to bend those facts. Don't blame this **** on "many on the right" making an "assumption" which may or may not be true. Stop trying to explain the article which was not that difficult to understand.

This is about you and your beliefs.

Explain what YOU meant by this:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ikestoys
It's just funny to see people bend facts to fit a preconceived narrative.
Because I don't see any bending, any narrative, and there's really not a lot of humor coming from the situation.
05-22-2012 , 12:42 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Happy_Fish
And who the hell would compare throwing a baseball to throwing a football? I guess only somebody who's never actually done either of them.
05-22-2012 , 12:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DodgerIrish
Neat picture and everything, but that's certainly not how he throws a baseball.
05-22-2012 , 01:03 AM
lol George Lucas trolls his neighbors: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/22/us...s.html?_r=1&hp

Cliffs: Lucas wants to put production studio on his huge property in affluent area. Neighbors object, file objections etc. Lucas acquiesces, pulls plans for production studio and instead proposes low-income housing be built on site. Neighbors perturbed.
05-22-2012 , 01:09 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by EricLindros
lol George Lucas trolls his neighbors: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/22/us...s.html?_r=1&hp

Cliffs: Lucas wants to put production studio on his huge property in affluent area. Neighbors object, file objections etc. Lucas acquiesces, pulls plans for production studio and instead proposes low-income housing be built on site. Neighbors perturbed.
Well done.
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