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03-04-2017 , 12:46 PM

#16026

Huehuecoyotl

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https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/st...26829055295488

Dean is an idiot. We dodged a bullet with that one.

03-04-2017 , 12:46 PM

#16027

markksman

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FAKE FACTS ! MAGA

03-04-2017 , 12:48 PM

#16028

einbert

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

https://twitter.com/GovHowardDean/st...26829055295488

Dean is an idiot. We dodged a bullet with that one.

Dean is not to be trusted.

https://newrepublic.com/article/1140...d-and-k-street

Quote:

Since his career in politics ended, Dean has found a home in the K Street establishment he once held in such disdain. He’s a strategic adviser to McKenna, Long, and Aldridge, a major Washington lobbying firm whose clients have included health care and pharmaceutical companies. Dean has never registered as a lobbyist, as far as I know, but the distinction is largely illusory. In 2009, one CEO told the publication BioCentury that Dean was “very helpful” in their efforts to loosen federal regulations on drug development.” Another said that “Dean has been a great addition to our team.”

It looks like he still is.

03-04-2017 , 12:49 PM

#16029

markksman

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https://mobile.twitter.com/LouiseMen...44975644438529

Lol

03-04-2017 , 12:49 PM

#16030

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

I dont doubt this is all true. Howver as an non-American I am often confused on the subtles of your politics. How can the same demographic be strongly libertarian and pro authoritarianism? Are these not polar opposite ends of the political spectrum?

How can the right like Russia but scream freedom at the top of thier lungs, every two minutes, like Braveheart.

It's almost as though they're mostly disingenuous liars.

03-04-2017 , 12:50 PM

#16031

Fatal Checkraise

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OT: Given the thread already has 16k posts, and has the potential to become the bigliest 2+2 thread of all time, i threw together a Google sheet with daily posts, weekly posts and a few other things, where I'll try to keep track of the growth.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...TZvgMvxJbAvH8/

If you have any other feature requests, let me know.

03-04-2017 , 12:55 PM

#16032

einbert

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https://twitter.com/davidmackau/stat...52714563108864

03-04-2017 , 12:55 PM

#16033

lastdayever

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

How can the right like Russia but scream freedom at the top of thier lungs, every two minutes, like Braveheart.

What kind of liberties are Russian citiziens missing that US citiziens have?

03-04-2017 , 12:56 PM

#16034

wheatrich

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wait a second, trump just confirmed the wiretap, that means it technically isn't classified anymore.

Does that mean results of it can get leaked now?

03-04-2017 , 12:57 PM

#16035

wheatrich

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lastdayever

What kind of liberties are Russian citiziens missing that US citiziens have?

Right to run against Putin without getting poisoned, for one.

03-04-2017 , 12:57 PM

#16036

Bigoldnit

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At a conference watching Nate Silver interview Mark Cuban about the election. I'm not saying that he's gonna run, BUT Cuban didn't rule out a run and has clearly given a ton of thought about how to run against him. He is dropping straight fire on him.

(Little nugget for the stoners - Cuban said that if he ran, he'd announce at 4:20 on 4/20)

03-04-2017 , 12:59 PM

#16037

markksman

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Lol the trump idiotologists are out in full force today on twitter "obama obama obama".

They have been so pent up since the inauguration that their hero and themselves have been kicked in the teeth daily. They think this is their road back to the glory days of the campaign.

It's literally obama obama obama gate obama.

SAD

03-04-2017 , 12:59 PM

#16038

einbert

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Two possible lines of quid pro quo between Trump campaign and Moscow: money and espionage

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/sta...66601870131201

03-04-2017 , 01:00 PM

#16039

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by adios

Irrational people going to be irrational

You'd have said the exact same thing to a green card holder from Iran before Trump blocked them with no warning.

03-04-2017 , 01:04 PM

#16040

Trolly McTrollson

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Quote:

Originally Posted by wheatrich

wait a second, trump just confirmed the wiretap, that means it technically isn't classified anymore.

Does that mean results of it can get leaked now?

That doesn't make it unclassified, that just means the president goofed.

03-04-2017 , 01:05 PM

#16041

Dominic

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Seriously think there's a good chance he doesn't even last 100 days

03-04-2017 , 01:12 PM

#16042

Riverman

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How is the GOP not realizing that Pence will rubber stamp their agenda while not ruining their brand for a generation?

03-04-2017 , 01:13 PM

#16043

fatkid

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

Seriously think there's a good chance he doesn't even last 100 days

Oh baby don't get all excited. Is Pence immune to this Russian stuff? Seems if they all go down he might be too close to the Orange Ween to go unscathed.

if espionage is found will any of them do jail time? Who would you most like to see behind bars?

03-04-2017 , 01:14 PM

#16044

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

Seriously think there's a good chance he doesn't even last 100 days

From your lips to God's ears...

03-04-2017 , 01:18 PM

#16045

MrWookie

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

How is the GOP not realizing that Pence will rubber stamp their agenda while not ruining their brand for a generation?

Near certain that Pence is in cahoots with all this.

03-04-2017 , 01:19 PM

#16046

suzzer99

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverman

How is the GOP not realizing that Pence will rubber stamp their agenda while not ruining their brand for a generation?

Idiot army will be pissed though.

03-04-2017 , 01:26 PM

#16047

einbert

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MrWookie

Near certain that Pence is in cahoots with all this.

Ladies and gentlement, your future President Paul "Tax Cuts for the Rich are Sweet, Bro" Ryan

03-04-2017 , 01:28 PM

#16048

th14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Clovis8

broadly speaking
liberals are the people that debate issues using reason, for the common good
conservatives are anti-liberals that say NO. what they stand for is opposition to liberalism.

03-04-2017 , 01:30 PM

#16049

SuperUberBob

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Quote:

Originally Posted by +rep_lol

i feel like this is not going to be sufficient for him. watching lyndsey graham's town hall a little while ago, there was furious uproar about the russian shenanigans and rabid, seemingly unanimous support and raucous applause for what lyndsey said about getting to the bottom of it all. and it wasn't just a crowd of liberals in there, there were plenty of people applauding the idea of repealing obamacare when that topic came up. hopefully this is a signal that many republicans or at least people who voted for trump are deeply concerned about all this stuff and he is losing their support.

Anecdotally, Trump supporters in my family still on board. I really don't think they know or care about the extent of the Russian connections to the Trump admin staff. They're just happy that their man got in.