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06-17-2017 , 04:01 PM
To have Ivanka for himself, ldo.
06-17-2017 , 04:02 PM
I stole this from Shaq Comedy Roast but Jared would be going from ****ing young pussy to being young pussy if Trump doesn't pardon him.

(said about R Kelly originally)
06-17-2017 , 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-doesnt...ta-here-626285


Six members of the Presidential Advisory Commission on HIV AIDS just resigned. They cited administrative indifference to the disease as demonstrated by, amongst other things, a failure to staff key positions, proposed budget cuts, and the impact that ACHA would have on people with the disease.
To be fair it's unlikely the ACHA will cover much of anything for anybody.

On the non-flippant side, having had an older brother die from AIDS when it was still a guaranteed death sentence this is obviously frustrating. The problem is the dummies in the Whitehouse are literally only breaking things and the tentacles touch everyone, likely in multiple ways.

;tldr we are all fffffed
06-17-2017 , 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
newt gingrich thinks someone is probably going to jail wrt the russian investigation, but he doesnt think trump himself.

if jared kushner goes to jail that would be soooo superb its hard to describe.
Don't get me wrong Kushners no great moderating force. But that would give Bannon a stronger position and make trump go off the deep end even more....idk.
06-17-2017 , 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Rococo
I haven't read the complaints but I'd be curious to hear the arguments for why these plaintiffs having standing.
What are the requirements fir launching an ethics violation on a lawyer?
06-17-2017 , 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by TimmayB
And to answer David's question: probably not because dude is a cop and here in fascist America we worship cops to the utmost. However, if the victim was white, the chance of the cop being found guilty increases by probably an immeasurable amount, even if the cop is still a big dog to be found guilty just because he's a cop. Basically, systemic racism in a nutshell.
The unfortunate and unmeasurable part of this, which many have touched on, is the reality is if the person was white the chance they get shot in the first place is a fraction of a percent compared to being black. So not only is the white victim likely to get perceived justice they are probably magnitudes less likely to be a victim in similar circumstances.
06-17-2017 , 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Subfallen
[...]
The goal is to have a global society that cleaves to truth, inclusion and the clear-eyed pursuit of the unimaginably beautiful future that is within our grasp.
Well inclusion isnt a goal that everyone shares, its more a liberal thing and conservatives are not big fans. So if you want alot of inclusion you better have alot of (political) power so you can force aside anyone who resist your will.
06-17-2017 , 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by markksman
What are the requirements fir launching an ethics violation on a lawyer?
Pretty good summary for New York ( which I believe is where Trump's attorney is barred, but they might have filed in DC since, presumably, that is where he has been talking to folks in the White House)

https://www.nycourts.gov/courts/ad2/...l#_How_to_File


My summary:

- You don't have to be a client (so no standing requirement), but you do have to identify yourself (i.e. no anonymous complaints)

- You write a simple statement telling the folks responsiple for attorney discipline what improper thing you think the attorney has done, and providing any evidence you have regarding that conduct. That could include witness statements, statements made by the attorney, even things like newspaper articles. At this stage you don't need to prove the allegation, just show enough that the allegation seems credible.

- If the disciplinary authority finds the comlaint worthy of further investigation, they have staff attorneys who will investigate further. Attorneys can get in trouble simply for failing to respond to an inquiry from the disciplinary folks, so they have some leverage here.
06-17-2017 , 05:29 PM
greg gianforte is calling for more civility in politics. thats rich
06-17-2017 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
greg gianforte is calling for more civility in politics. thats rich
Is that the dude who suplexed that other dude?
06-17-2017 , 05:40 PM
well its the guy who assaulted a reporter that asked him a question just recently. so hes looking kinda dumb now calling for civility when hes the most uncivil of them all.
06-17-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Matty3betz
BEST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME! THANK GOD OBAMA THE DISGUSTING MUSLIM TERRORIST IS NOT IN OFFICE ANYMORE, WORST PRESIDENT NEXT TO THE SLAVE OWNERS.


Adios
06-17-2017 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Onlydo2days
I stole this from Shaq Comedy Roast but Jared would be going from ****ing young pussy to being young pussy if Trump doesn't pardon him.

(said about R Kelly originally)
Not only is this incredibly unfunny but Ivanka isn't even young..
06-17-2017 , 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
newt gingrich thinks someone is probably going to jail wrt the russian investigation, but he doesnt think trump himself.

if jared kushner goes to jail that would be soooo superb its hard to describe.
Jared is NEVERRRRRRR going to jail.
06-17-2017 , 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by dagger9
Wow the KKK is still a thing? Those old man that get together to drink beers and occasionally get busted with black male prostitutes*, that's what you're scared of?

*http://guardianlv.com/2014/04/ku-klu...le-prostitute/

"Today, the Center estimates that there are between 5,000 and 8,000 Klan members, split among dozens of different - and often warring - organizations that use the Klan name."

[https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-h.../ku-klux-klan]

"Pew Research Center estimates that there were about 3.3 million Muslims of all ages living in the United States in 2015."
[http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...m-population/]

Even if we assume only ONE percent of these Muslims are radical Islamists they outnumber the KKK by a lot.



Half white half latino to be exact. You know as much as I do that Democrat politicians are pandering to the black vote, hence the white supremacist narrative in the media.
Lol at assuming that 1 percent of muslims in the US are radical islamists. Have you ever actually met any US muslims? Is it fair to assume that 1 percent of Christians in the US are members of the KKK?
06-17-2017 , 05:53 PM
Trump can only pardon federal crimes

They gotta get his peeps on state crimes
06-17-2017 , 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
Lol at assuming that 1 percent of muslims in the US are radical islamists. Have you ever actually met any US muslims? Is it fair to assume that 1 percent of Christians in the US are members of the KKK?

Facts don't matter to these people

In fact, they WANT to be ignorant so they can continue being racists and bigots without having to admit to themselves that they are scum
06-17-2017 , 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrochu
Why wouldn't Trump just pardon him?
This is the problem. The more I think about it and think about Trumps tweets regarding a "witch hunt," if anyone in his inner circle is even indicted, he's going to insta-pardon them and say it was trumped up witch hunt charges anyway.
06-17-2017 , 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Bigoldnit
Pretty good summary for New York ( which I believe is where Trump's attorney is barred, but they might have filed in DC since, presumably, that is where he has been talking to folks in the White House)

https://www.nycourts.gov/courts/ad2/...l#_How_to_File


My summary:

- You don't have to be a client (so no standing requirement), but you do have to identify yourself (i.e. no anonymous complaints)

- You write a simple statement telling the folks responsiple for attorney discipline what improper thing you think the attorney has done, and providing any evidence you have regarding that conduct. That could include witness statements, statements made by the attorney, even things like newspaper articles. At this stage you don't need to prove the allegation, just show enough that the allegation seems credible.

- If the disciplinary authority finds the comlaint worthy of further investigation, they have staff attorneys who will investigate further. Attorneys can get in trouble simply for failing to respond to an inquiry from the disciplinary folks, so they have some leverage here.
Thanks for information
06-17-2017 , 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicholasp27
Trump can only pardon federal crimes

They gotta get his peeps on state crimes
This is true, go go Cyrus Vance Jr.!
06-17-2017 , 06:19 PM
This is pretty far into the weeds for me, but Sater was investigated by acting FBI director Andrew McCabe.



Check out @DavidCayJ's Tweet: https://twitter.com/DavidCayJ/status...264997377?s=09

This article from the replies gives some details

https://whowhatwhy.org/2017/05/15/ww...s-replacement/
06-17-2017 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by aflametotheground
Well inclusion isnt a goal that everyone shares, its more a liberal thing and conservatives are not big fans. So if you want alot of inclusion you better have alot of (political) power so you can force aside anyone who resist your will.
True, at this time we still lack a story that sells global inclusiveness as an inherent good.

Which raises the very interesting question: What will this story or ideology be?

We must find it, because a world premised on the immiseration and exclusion of an ever-growing majority can only end in flames.
06-17-2017 , 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jman220
This is the problem. The more I think about it and think about Trumps tweets regarding a "witch hunt," if anyone in his inner circle is even indicted, he's going to insta-pardon them and say it was trumped up witch hunt charges anyway.
Not if he's impeached before anybody else gets charged.
06-17-2017 , 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by awval999
Jared is NEVERRRRRRR going to jail.
Yea I agree. He's a weasel that will flip as soon as the writing is on the wall.
06-17-2017 , 06:47 PM
LOL even this guy wants nothing to do with the ****show that is the Donald J Trump Administration.


      
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