The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. - Page 847 - Politics and Economics

Good for trump is not the same as good for the economy. You are intentionally misleading by suggesting he may be good for the economy when almost everything he has done is only good for him, and doesn't help or actively hurts the economy. But his hotel is doing great!

He's literally running the govt like a business. He's running it for his benefit alone and he's not worried about what happens in a few years when he's off managing some other corporation. That's "OPP" or "other people's problems."

03-24-2017 , 03:05 PM

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aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by sylar

Over 4 years his trips to Mar a Lago and "protecting" Melania because she can't stand him will cost ~$1 billion. Good for the economy!

03-24-2017 , 03:06 PM

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raheem

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Originally Posted by sylar

I also said he may not be good for the economy. My statement was, "he may or may not be good for the economy". That's a tautology. Always correct. You're saying it's incorrect. You are wrong.

03-24-2017 , 03:06 PM

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Namath12

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"I will appoint pro-life judges" = "not extreme on abortion" itt

03-24-2017 , 03:07 PM

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TrollyWantACracker

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Originally Posted by 57 On Red

Good God, is that all?

I am fairly sure that 120 has got to be the lowest self-reported IQ in the history of 2+2.

03-24-2017 , 03:08 PM

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57 On Red

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Originally Posted by raheem

He's done thousands of deals and has had only like four of them end in a bankruptcy.

Six, I believe. Which is why no US bank will lend to him and he has to borrow from Deutsche Bank, which has shady money-laundering connections with the Russians, and which mysteriously keeps lending to him even after he's sued them.

03-24-2017 , 03:08 PM

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raheem

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Originally Posted by Namath12

"I will appoint pro-life judges" = "not extreme on abortion" itt

True that that is extreme. I am referring to Trump having three exceptions in the case of abortion, which are rape, incest and health of the mother. I guess my point is he could be more extreme.

03-24-2017 , 03:08 PM

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aoFrantic

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Originally Posted by raheem

I also said he may not be good for the economy. My statement was, "he may or may not be good for the economy". That's a tautology. Always correct. You're saying it's incorrect. You are wrong.

He's trying to deport millions of illegals who work, pay taxes and contribute billions to industries such as agriculture. He isn't letting in nurses and other professionals from Canada anymore, which there were tens of thousands of working on Visas. He is going to spend ~20 billion on a border wall. He spends tens of millions a weekend on golf trips. It costs $500k a day to have Melania live miles away from him. The tourism industry is expected to lose about 10-15% over the Trump presidency.

Rich people and businesses get tax cuts though, so...we got a wash?

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03-24-2017 , 03:10 PM

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Namath12

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Originally Posted by raheem

Sure, but I do have 120 IQ.

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Originally Posted by raheem

tautology

03-24-2017 , 03:11 PM

#21161

raheem

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Originally Posted by aoFrantic

He's trying to deport millions of illegals who work, pay taxes and contribute billions to industries such as agriculture. He isn't letting in nurses and other professionals from Canada anymore, which there were tens of thousands of working on Visas. He is going to spend ~20 billion on a border wall. He spends tens of millions a weekend on golf trips. It costs $500k a month to have Melania live miles away from him. The tourism industry is expected to lose about 10-15% over the Trump presidency.

Rich people and businesses get tax cuts though, so...we got a wash?

True again. Only thing I would like to correct is illegals pay no income tax, at least that I'm aware of. Drives wages down, which hurts the American people.

03-24-2017 , 03:11 PM

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Trump's greatest strength is his ability to find fall guys when things go to ****.

The sheer amount of **** ups he has made would have killed basically anybody else but he comes out with minimal damage in nearly every situation that would decimate another's livelihood. It's that ability to shift the blame on others that'll keep him in power for at least one term.

If this health care plan fails, he'll blame the GOP for not doing what he told them to do. If it passes, he'll blame the GOP for passing such a ****ty bill that took health care away from millions of people. Either way, his plan of pulling GOP voters from their politicians and directly to him is starting to work.

03-24-2017 , 03:12 PM

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4 high profile bankruptcies as a developer is catastrophically bad. Trump owes everything he has to his father and would have been flat broke multiple times without him.

03-24-2017 , 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TrollyWantACracker

I am fairly sure that 120 has got to be the lowest self-reported IQ in the history of 2+2.

I think Ken Dine (!!!), over in OOT, implicitly admitted to double digits -- at least, he said, 'I may not be one of you guys with triple-digit IQs...'

On another board, Ken spent months furiously trying to prove that the Moon does not rotate, even though it could not possibly show the same face to the Earth all the time unless it rotated once per orbit.

03-24-2017 , 03:13 PM

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Wow guys. Granted I have not read every post, but it seems that Raheem is trying to come to our side. Why are we pouncing on him like he dan or kyp?

03-24-2017 , 03:14 PM

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raheem

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Originally Posted by Clovis8

Wow guys. Granted I have not read every post, but it seems that Raheem is trying to come to our side. Why are we pouncing on him like he dan or kyp?

03-24-2017 , 03:14 PM

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Molly Ball‏ @mollyesque 1m1 minute ago

The GOP is in quite a pickle today. You might even call it...

...the Art of the Dill.

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03-24-2017 , 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by tomdemaine

Raheem,

Do you understand that your pleas for clemency for you and all other trump voters rings quite hollow considering firstly that we ****ing told you this **** would happen over and over and over again and you didn't listen and secondly that the trump breitbart o'reilly people give absolutely no quarter when it comes to mistakes made by say african americans. You get caught with a quarter of weed? Personal responsibility, zero tolerance, no parole. You're an 18 year old girl who has sex and gets pregnant? No abortion, personal responsibility, raise that kid even if it ruins your life. You and millions of people like you willfully disregard the obvious signs that trump is a pure conman scumbag and vote a dangerous lunatic into office? Please no backlash just care and understanding and another chance. It's pretty ****ing tilting to hear tbh.

It's all well and good to be tilted.

But don't you see the irony that you're slamming conservatives for having beliefs that are not understanding enough of people making mistakes, and then refusing the accept an at least plausibly sincere renunciation of someone's own support of conservatives?

03-24-2017 , 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by einbert

That's "OPP" or "other people's problems."

Wow, I totally misunderstood what that Naughty By Nature song was all about.

03-24-2017 , 03:16 PM

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https://twitter.com/dmataconis/statu...20877671661568

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03-24-2017 , 03:24 PM

#21171

OmgGlutten!

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He inherited $250m from his father, adjusting for inflation, he is not that far behind the market if he just put it all in an index fund...

03-24-2017 , 03:26 PM

#21172

OmgGlutten!

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So the way to have single payer for white people only is to kick it down to the state level and let them work their magic?

03-24-2017 , 03:26 PM

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Louis Cyphre

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Originally Posted by raheem

I also said he may not be good for the economy. My statement was, "he may or may not be good for the economy". That's a tautology. Always correct. You're saying it's incorrect. You are wrong.

Let's go to the tape and let's see what your original statement was:

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Originally Posted by raheem

The things that appealed to me is Trump takes the threat of radical Islamic terrorism seriously. Also he's a businessman so he's good for the economy.

Your original statement was wrong. You then moved the goal posts to something useless. Stop.