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The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-25-2017 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by uDevil
Maybe Trump would be happy with pseudonyms when naming sources. You know, like his buddy "Jim" that gave him that scoop on how Paris is a disaster. Or John Miller, who spread the news about what a stud Trump was.
We did get 'Friend of Bernhard Langer' once.
02-25-2017 , 12:35 AM
Trump hasn't denied any of it. His lawyer has already stated 4 different stories. The question isn't whether any of it is true; but how far and if anything will be done about it.

Last edited by wheatrich; 02-25-2017 at 12:41 AM.
02-25-2017 , 12:38 AM
Pretty sure the worst thing that's happened ever was when the Kenyan Socialist Bill Ayres trained community leader took away our freedom by giving the some people healthcare.
02-25-2017 , 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Absolute hysteria from his opponents. Everything he does is turned into the worst thing that has ever happened in this history of the USA, and there aren't enough hours in the day to cover it all. Meanwhile, you risk making such complete asses out of yourselves, that you could even turn off people that agree with your side on this.
I already debunked the "can't cover everything" part in the post you responded to, and Trump's approval ratings say everything about whether or not the media is turning people off.

This is, once again, an idiotic argument that makes sense only in your head. The right wing spent the last 8 years overreacting to everything liberals did (****ing "death panels" lol) and they control everything.
02-25-2017 , 12:53 AM
It's funny how those tweets work.

I recently signed up for the online versions of both the failing New York Times and the Washington Post.

Gladly give them my money for FACTUAL news.

Breitbart is an online tabloid, and InfoWars is one step removed from the abovetopsecret forums.
02-25-2017 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Meanwhile, you risk making such complete asses out of yourselves, that you could even turn off people that agree with your side on this.
You must have missed the first 10 years of this forum where we a made fun of Conservatives who thought every center left program Democrats proposed was instant communism or giving gays marriage meant the end of civilization, but were chided for being elites making fun of True Americans (TM).
02-25-2017 , 12:56 AM
Jesus christ is this going to be a long 4+ years of reading endless takes all restating the same basic "liberals are going to make Trump win again if they do what conservatives did before winning everything" argument
02-25-2017 , 12:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
But you should also ask yourself this: how is he getting away with being literally Hitler?

From what I've seen, it almost looks like he's genuinely having fun with it all.
The thing about fascism is that every time it permeates a culture it does so in a slightly different way. No one is saying he's literally Hitler.. this is a new flavor of horror for the "new" internet age.

It's people like you shrugging this administration off and laughing about it because it doesn't impact you personally who will **** us all in the end.
02-25-2017 , 01:02 AM
Can you even imagine if Obama had tossed Fox out of his press conferences? The derposphere would be chock full of Imperial President, second amendment CALLS TO ARMS, DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION etc etc for like a fortnight afterwards.
02-25-2017 , 01:04 AM
Yeah this doesn't lead anywhere good. And for all the right-wing hard talk about independence and Americanism and Cold Dead Hands, they're sure surrendering the press in a hurry (not that most of them didn't abandon it years ago).

Sooner or later these people will figure out that Trump/GOP aren't really about them, they just need their unquestioning support for now.
02-25-2017 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Can you even imagine if Obama had tossed Fox out of his press conferences? The derposphere would be chock full of Imperial President, second amendment CALLS TO ARMS, DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION etc etc for like a fortnight afterwards.
The double standards are pretty nuts. Imagine if the guy who conspired to blow up Target stores this week had brown skin instead of white?
02-25-2017 , 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by ChrisV
Can you even imagine if Obama had tossed Fox out of his press conferences? The derposphere would be chock full of Imperial President, second amendment CALLS TO ARMS, DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION etc etc for like a fortnight afterwards.
With the amount of right wing white Christian terrorism in this country it would undoubtedly have led to deaths.
02-25-2017 , 01:08 AM
Great article breaking down Bannon's pillars from CPAC:

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/02/2...&_r=0&referer=
02-25-2017 , 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
Jesus christ is this going to be a long 4+ years of reading endless takes all restating the same basic "liberals are going to make Trump win again if they do what conservatives did before winning everything" argument
I'm actually having trouble seeing a scenario where Trump can win again in 2020.

Like 90% of the reason he won is that people hated Clinton and how the whole Bernie+emails things played out.

And I cant imagine them going through 4 years with his reputation somehow being better than when he made people believe he might not be crooked and he might solve some things.


He couldn't have won against a decent candidate, so he has to rise his stock HIGHER than last year while hes already in the dumpster ratings during the honeymoon phases of presidency.

Maybe if he kills the top ISIS leaders with his bare hands after they blow up a full madison square garden
02-25-2017 , 01:12 AM
I you guys too. I wann a touch your Priebus weens. I'm your Bannon. Not Tsaow or Inkso though thanks.
02-25-2017 , 01:15 AM
Also on board with the idea that Trump is a dog in 2020. R's could end up being a super duper clown car primary with David Duke himself in the running if the alt-right think he doesn't move fast enough.
02-25-2017 , 01:15 AM
Kirby,

Waiting until 2020 is not good enough.
02-25-2017 , 01:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Absolute hysteria from his opponents. Everything he does is turned into the worst thing that has ever happened in this history of the USA, and there aren't enough hours in the day to cover it all. Meanwhile, you risk making such complete asses out of yourselves, that you could even turn off people that agree with your side on this.
"There's no way any of us can excuse what the president did yesterday," [Rep. Peter] King said on NewsMaxTV on Friday. The interview was flagged by Buzzfeed. "When you have the world watching … a week, two weeks of anticipation of what the United States is gonna do. For him to walk out —I'm not trying to be trivial here— in a light suit, light tan suit, saying that first he wants to talk about what most Americans care about the revision of second quarter numbers on the economy. This is a week after Jim Foley was beheaded and he's trying to act like real Americans care about the economy, not about ISIS and not about terrorism. And then he goes on to say he has no strategy."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...-tan-suit-rant
02-25-2017 , 01:17 AM
He could win the same way he did the first time, just vilify his opponents with a new string of nonsense that his base will believe and re-chant. It worked against the entire GOP primary field and a very experienced Washington insider with vastly more campaign spending.

I think it's time to start seeing some of those scenarios, and we haven't even gotten to the part where voter suppression and other factors start ratcheting up in earnest.

We did learn something this past election let's not go forgetting the lesson already. I'm going to assume DJT is the front-runner (like most incumbents are) until he's eliminated from the race.

Last edited by Minirra; 02-25-2017 at 01:23 AM.
02-25-2017 , 01:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
I'm actually having trouble seeing a scenario where Trump can win again in 2020.
He couldn't have won against a decent candidate, so he has to rise his stock HIGHER than last year while hes already in the dumpster ratings during the honeymoon phases of presidency.
Unfortunately there will undoubtedly be a few rogue attacks on US soil by a brown person during the next several years. They will all make front page news and the public will freak the **** out. Meanwhile the administration will just double down on everything they've been doing and their approval ratings will rise.
02-25-2017 , 01:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Kirbynator
I'm actually having trouble seeing a scenario where Trump can win again in 2020.
It's not for another 3 and a half years, we're only a month in. Plenty of people could change their minds by then. There were people who literally voted to kill themselves in this election. All those hill e-mails and comey and all that was a giant last week narrative that certainly changed some people's minds at the end.

and DJT has to be considered a favorite in 2020 if he's still president as there WILL be voter suppression/imprisonment/disenfranchisement of D votes.

we've gone from all these narratives
I can't see a scenario where DJT win the republican primary--he won
well he certainly won't win the election--he won

and now people really are like well he's a dog in 2020
ofc he can win and there's many scenarios to get there again. Including rigging the damn thing if he has to. In his world, he doesn't wonder why, he wonders why not?

Last edited by wheatrich; 02-25-2017 at 01:31 AM.
02-25-2017 , 01:23 AM
Don't underestimate Trump's 2020 bid.

The GOP has become radicalized.

And the closer we get to Christofascism the harder it will be to turn back.
02-25-2017 , 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by skiier04
The thing about fascism is that every time it permeates a culture it does so in a slightly different way. No one is saying he's literally Hitler.. this is a new flavor of horror for the "new" internet age.

It's people like you shrugging this administration off and laughing about it because it doesn't impact you personally who will **** us all in the end.
Literally the only things that bring inso0 happiness are ****ing over minorities and millennial. He's always wanted a big strong man to help screw these people over for him, he just thought those mean educated liberals online would stop making fun of him. Instead, because he's inso0 and as simple as ever we make fun of him even more.
02-25-2017 , 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by goofyballer
I already debunked the "can't cover everything" part in the post you responded to, and Trump's approval ratings say everything about whether or not the media is turning people off.

This is, once again, an idiotic argument that makes sense only in your head. The right wing spent the last 8 years overreacting to everything liberals did (****ing "death panels" lol) and they control everything.
Fox news literally got mad at Obama for putting mustard on a hot dog. Trump calls the press the enemy of the people and he thinks it's a ****ing overreaction. Dude is like 6'7 and is probably super upset get out features suburban white people as the enemy.
02-25-2017 , 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Fox news literally got mad at Obama for putting mustard on a hot dog. Trump calls the press the enemy of the people and he thinks it's a ****ing overreaction. Dude is like 6'7 and is probably super upset get out features suburban white people as the enemy.
Lol at thinking inso forgot **** like this rather than him thinking that all those things were appropriate reactions.

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