Open Side Menu Go to the Top
Register
The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns. The Presidency of Donald J. Trump: No smocking guns.

02-25-2017 , 01:45 AM
If the EU only bothered to stop buying russia's gas and found alternative fuel source. 80% of russia's gas export goes to the EU, shut the valve off and they're screwed.

The EU will never do this they're all stupid too. Should've been done years ago but nope.

Twitter reports out there @ VP used the wrong flag in a tweet for israel.
02-25-2017 , 01:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by aoFrantic
Fox news literally got mad at Obama for putting mustard on a hot dog. Trump calls the press the enemy of the people and he thinks it's a ****ing overreaction. Dude is like 6'7 and is probably super upset get out features suburban white people as the enemy.
Not that I remember or had even heard about it at the time, but wanted to see it now....spicy mustard on a burger.



If only Democrats weren't such elitists and could stick to plain old French's, er I mean American Mustard, we wouldn't have a morono-totalitarian as POTUS.

Hillary lost because she carried hot sauce in her purse. Maybe it's the spice - not WASPy at all.
02-25-2017 , 01:49 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by microbet
LOOOOOOOOOOL inso0

don't overreact guys YOU'LL MAKE TRUMP WIN
02-25-2017 , 01:53 AM
Here's Sean Hannity getting started in the business at a college radio station in 1989:

Quote:
In April 1989, Hannity invited the virulent anti-gay activist Gene Antonio on the air to promote his already widely discredited book, The AIDS Cover-up? The Real and Alarming Facts About AIDS. A Lutheran minister without scientific training, Antonio peddled paranoid fictions about the epidemic. He wrote that the virus could be transmitted by sneezes and mosquito bites and that the Centers for Disease Control and the American Medical Association conspired to cover up the "truth."

At the opening of his hour-long interview, Hannity said: "I'm sick and tired of the media and the homosexual community preventing us from getting the true, accurate information about AIDS in this day." He went on to describe The AIDS Cover-up? as an "excellent book" that was "so full of facts" and added, "if you want the real truth about this deadly, deadly disease, he's not afraid to say what the homosexuals don't want you to hear." He gave his audience Antonio's mailing address, where they could order "autographed copies" and write to find out about "places where homosexuals can go for help if they want to change." [The Loudest Voice in the Room, pg 239]
02-25-2017 , 01:57 AM
A bit late but to reply to the AI auto tangent, I just want to make clear that Sylar is certainly wrong in his view of the technology, the industry, and the timeline at which it will all take place.

Over two decades? Buddy you are more likely to have your neocortex connected to the cloud and be living in your own simulated reality by then than we are to not have a fully autonomous shipping industry.

If anyone feels like bandying about any discussion on the topic, fire off whatever in the monthly LC thread and I will address it.
02-25-2017 , 02:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sylar
Ok let's talk self-driving trucks. The industry is going to trend that way but it will be awhile before a driver won't be in the truck physically. A smartphone-like chip will be doing the driving for 99% of the time, but the driver will still do the parking and the on ramps and stuff. Pretty much like the airline industry today. Their jobs will be first of all easier and safer, but likely not many of them in the distant future.

In fact, we know this with almost perfect clarity, because the government would have to approve or phase in such trucks in stages, possibly over more than two decades, long after this congress or even president. They could legislate the exact year when fully autonomous vehicles were allowed.

So, the industry actually has plenty of time to prepare. Those who are 45-55 years old will be retiring, a very small percentage of them will require a new career. Those who are less than 25 will likely need little government help to transition, and those over 35 will need progressively more. They'll need to work fewer hours, study more, be able to explore entrepreneurship. That's pretty much normal for anyone trying to switch careers. IMO, the government has a role here for every industry, and the truckers will need to rely on it.
I agree that this stuff won't be happening overnight and will potentially take plenty of time but I have little trust that our government will respond in a smart way towards these issues. Anyway no point in further derailing this thread so here is the report if anyone wants it. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...on-Economy.PDF
02-25-2017 , 02:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrWookie
Lol at thinking inso forgot **** like this rather than him thinking that all those things were appropriate reactions.

If you are a Republican, all things are permissible. If you are a Democrat, no quarter is given.
I don't think he forgot, just pointing out how he has no morals other than **** liberals
02-25-2017 , 02:10 AM
It's is pretty unamerican to like proper mustard (well French which is almost proper mustard)

Good on him. Probably reads books as well.
02-25-2017 , 02:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eurodp
I agree that this stuff won't be happening overnight and will potentially take plenty of time but I have little trust that our government will respond in a smart way towards these issues. Anyway no point in further derailing this thread so here is the report if anyone wants it. https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...on-Economy.PDF
The most important part of that entire report:

02-25-2017 , 02:16 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by chezlaw
It's is pretty unamerican to like proper mustard.
Ya, no. Lots of German immigrants came to America with their mustard skills.
02-25-2017 , 02:20 AM
Fair enough. We get a strange view of the USA from abroad sometimes. It was a very pleasant surprise to discover that that had awesome beer.
02-25-2017 , 02:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HastenDan
The most important part of that entire report:

I trust our government will do none of those things with the current way the Republican party is. Robust safety net? Combating inequality? lol They are literally trying to create more inequality each day while destroying the safety net.
02-25-2017 , 02:32 AM
Of course. But neither would the corporatist democratic party sadly (though of course that would still be much, much more preferable to the corporatist republican party, and infinitely preferable to the corporatist Trump party). In summary, we are all ****ed.
02-25-2017 , 03:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eurodp
I trust our government will do none of those things with the current way the Republican party is. Robust safety net? Combating inequality? lol They are literally trying to create more inequality each day while destroying the safety net.
The Republican response is along the lines of the Republican response to stock market crash in 1929.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Andrew Mellon Secretary of Treasury for Harding, Coolidge and Hoover
Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate farmers, liquidate real estate. It will purge the rottenness out of the system. High costs of living and high living will come down. People will work harder, live a more moral life. Values will be adjusted, and enterprising people will pick up from less competent people.
02-25-2017 , 03:51 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by campfirewest
That's a really well thought out and reasoned argument. You must be one of those well educated and highly intelligent liberals.
There is no evidence politeness cures dumbness.
02-25-2017 , 03:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by stinkubus
Why not? They got the cops in their pocket, and our boy Bill Jeff got them all hired with his "crime" bill. Bill Clinton's willingness to go HAM on law and order is going to haunt our society.
Yeah that's why violent crime has skyrocketed in the last 25 years.
02-25-2017 , 04:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl
This sounds good and is probably true, but another issue is the economic power these new jobs will have.
I spend most of my working life in those jobs and there is nothing wrong with the economic power of those. I started of as a industrial electrician for automation. The income in that profession is on the upper end compared to other blue collar jobs and company's are always looking for able people. Then i went to college and now i work as a IT-Manager. With that, my income is at the upper level compared to other college educated white collar workers at my age group. There are always open positions.

The real problem here is not technological progress it is education. If you are a unskilled worker you will be ****ed and you will be replaced. Cap-, lorry-, train- and forklift drivers will be gone within the next 20 years.

To get into one of those new jobs you need education. We need a education system that is open for everybody (all age groups and colors) and it needs to be FREE. Those who need education the most are rarely able to afford it. If studying wouldn't be free (no tuition fee) in Germany i would still be a blue collar worker. It should be a no brainer for every government to invest in education, it pays for itself. i pay thrice the taxes i did 8 years ago. Where else does a government get such a great ROI?

Additionally lower income households have to start and pick up education as a value again. It is a shame that the one thing that allows their kids to have a better life, then them, is disregarded, disrespected and not a core value. The working class should pour to the voting booth every chance they get and vote for those who make free education their prime concern.

Also in the USA and the UK the working class should riot against the fact, that access to education is regulated by access to money.
02-25-2017 , 05:10 AM
Well it gets to the idea that a lot of what makes our country run smoothly is based off of norms and not laws. The first amendment is only about government interference of the press, but that the press should have open access to the President and that he, as a steward of the American people, has to answer to the press is a well established norm of political life in the US.
02-25-2017 , 05:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by eurodp
The WH report said ~10-50% of ALL jobs and that the concern was that even though up until now we have created new jobs that outnumber those lost that it might not be like that in the future. Take self-driving trucks as an example. Sure you will now have jobs where someone operates a fleet of these trucks but what do the 5/10 that aren't needed anymore do? The fact that truckers don't need to stop in tiny "cities" that depend on passerby means potential job loss there too. What do those people do? I get your point that new jobs come about and have the potential to replace old as that has been the case so far but from examples I have read it appears that isn't necessarily always going to be the case.
10-50% is a margin in which both cases could be true. That said, the WH isnt a credible source even pre Trump.
02-25-2017 , 05:36 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HastenDan
A bit late but to reply to the AI auto tangent, I just want to make clear that Sylar is certainly wrong in his view of the technology, the industry, and the timeline at which it will all take place.

Over two decades? Buddy you are more likely to have your neocortex connected to the cloud and be living in your own simulated reality by then than we are to not have a fully autonomous shipping industry.

If anyone feels like bandying about any discussion on the topic, fire off whatever in the monthly LC thread and I will address it.
Hi Dan! Your vote of disapproval is all the accolade I need. Carry on.

Last edited by sylar; 02-25-2017 at 05:43 AM. Reason: lol neocortex. keep your government out of my brain.
02-25-2017 , 05:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul D
The video of a biker looking guy calling Richard Spencer a piece of **** at CPAC has me laughing

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...b0780bac27263b
I was waiting for that dude's beard to punch the **** out of that nazi.
02-25-2017 , 06:53 AM
Just a note on automated trucking. There have been Live road tests going on for the past year with trucks delivering goods.
02-25-2017 , 06:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inso0
I'm neither delicate nor upset. You might even be right. I'm not as mad as you guys are, so I naturally don't follow it as closely. But you should also ask yourself this: how is he getting away with being literally Hitler?
Grunching on my way out the door. Without agreeing with anything (Trump is not literally Hitler), I'll ask you to think about how Hitler got away with being literally Hitler.
02-25-2017 , 07:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisV
Can you even imagine if Obama had tossed Fox out of his press conferences? The derposphere would be chock full of Imperial President, second amendment CALLS TO ARMS, DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION etc etc for like a fortnight afterwards.
Please note it has nothing to do with Obama.
They hate Obama not because he is Obama, it is because he is black.
02-25-2017 , 07:55 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Cut
Grunching on my way out the door. Without agreeing with anything (Trump is not literally Hitler), I'll ask you to think about how Hitler got away with being literally Hitler.
Very good point. Trump is not literally Hitler, but if you consider what he has said on the record: steal the oil, torture and kill families of terrorists, seemingly praising the Chinese government in the Tiananmen Square massacre, etc, it looks like he wants to be Hitler, or at least some form of authoritarian dictator.

      
m