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01-23-2017 , 03:26 PM

#551

bobman0330

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

That's kinda what the EU is, though, and Trumpkins haaaaaate that.

Well, the EU is free trade + locking everyone into unending economic misery.

01-23-2017 , 03:27 PM

#552

kerowo

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hamish McBagpipe

"When will the Spanish website be up?"

Jfc. That person should be banned for all time from any journalism anywhere.

Perhaps that is important for the people she reports to? A better question would have been "are you going to have a Spanish version of the web page?"

01-23-2017 , 03:27 PM

#553

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by goofyballer

That's kinda what the EU is, though, and Trumpkins haaaaaate that.

Same reason as EuroTrumpkins though right? Immigrants. Our Trumpkins just think they are all Syrians and North Africans and don't get the anti-Polish immigrant stuff.

01-23-2017 , 03:27 PM

#554

Max Cut

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anecdotes > statistics

#alternatefacts

01-23-2017 , 03:27 PM

#555

prana

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same ****: going to meet with his team

01-23-2017 , 03:29 PM

#556

ScreaminAsian

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Autocratic

Those are liberals.

We are moving back toward a more 1880 definition of whiteness. This isn't just skin color anymore, that's 2015 talk. We are talking about full blown purity.

their idea of american greatness is definitely pre-1900

01-23-2017 , 03:37 PM

#557

th14

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Quote:

At a news conference last week, now-President Donald Trump said he and his daughter, Ivanka, had signed paperwork relinquishing control of all Trump-branded companies. Next to him were stacks of papers in manila envelopes — documents he said transferred “complete and total control” of his businesses to his two sons and another longtime employee.

Sheri Dillon, the Trump attorney who presented the plan, said that Trump “has relinquished leadership and management of the Trump Organization.” Everything would be placed in a family trust by Jan. 20, she said.

That hasn’t happened.

To transfer ownership of his biggest companies, Trump has to file a long list of documents in Florida, Delaware and New York. We asked officials in each of those states whether they have received the paperwork. As of 3:15 p.m. today, the officials said they have not.

01-23-2017 , 03:41 PM

#558

iron81

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How did Hope not get the Press Secretary gig?

01-23-2017 , 03:43 PM

#559

dinopoker

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Originally Posted by Inso0

Let me be the first to apologize for voting for this clown.

I thought it would be entertaining, and maybe things will get more amusing at some point, but so far just about everything he's done has mostly just been irritating.

Like, holy ****, man. You won, we know. Nobody gives a **** about how many people did or did not attend your ceremony. **** the haters and go do something productive, please.

Sorry, my bad.

Wow.

01-23-2017 , 03:46 PM

#560

master3004

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I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD INTERPRET IT DIFFERENTLY

Holy ****

Jesus, he lies through his ****ing teeth

01-23-2017 , 03:48 PM

#561

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 5ive

Prepare to die a little:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...st-day-office/

Odds there is a scandal during the next years that there is a direct connection between breitbart articles and the White House agenda?

Quote:

Originally Posted by juan valdez

I suggest you look in to the clinton foundation. This isn't the time or place to go over it. Any rational or unbiased person should be deeply troubled with the information available.

As someone outraged at trumps failure to provide tax returns and exaggerate the crowd sizes i am not sure why you are asking the second question, im simply stating how totally off balance the outrage is

Saying nothing has been proven is totally wrong as seen in the vdeos above. Saying she hasnt been prosecuted is true. Saying she hasn't been prosecuted yet is also true

Again what youre dismisssive and defensive of vs outraged is totally off balance. Trump hasn't released his tax returns and that my bother you but he is being audited so i can't really se him getting away with anything that makes sense of your completely off balance outrage

Dude, Trump won. Stop using the Hilary argument to excuse Trump's behavior. It was ridiculous to any rational person during the election and it is even more ridiculous once Trump is president and it literally doesn't matter anymore.

01-23-2017 , 03:51 PM

#562

master3004

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**** you Spicer. Who cares what types of odds he defied. It's ****ing over, move on you dumb cock

01-23-2017 , 03:51 PM

#563

NxtWrldChamp

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"Phil Ivey is the biggest winner in cash games both online and live"

So, just to clarify you are saying that Phil Ivey is the biggest winner in cash games online?

"That's not what I said, I don't even know how you would get that from what I said"

-The mouthpiece of America.

01-23-2017 , 03:55 PM

#564

master3004

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He's minimizing the point because the point is ****ing minimal, and his ass should be doing presidential **** and not a small handed ******* who can't handle being criticized

01-23-2017 , 03:55 PM

#565

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Seems like Spicer's goal is spin everything in a way that will only make sense to the most non-intelligent Trump supporter.

01-23-2017 , 03:56 PM

#566

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bbfg

Seems like Spicer's goal is spin everything in a way that will only make sense to the most non-intelligent Trump supporter.

It's important to focus on your base, even if it means you'll always have approval ratings in the low 30s.

01-23-2017 , 03:59 PM

#567

master3004

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"I'm not gonna talk about what we may or may not do, who do you think I am, the press secretary?"

01-23-2017 , 04:00 PM

#568

Dominic

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Jesus Christ just give Spicer and Trump the participation trophy they so obviously want.

01-23-2017 , 04:05 PM

#569

iron81

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic

Jesus Christ just give Spicer and Trump the participation trophy they so obviously want.

Generally, Presidents have to wait until after they leave office to get an aircraft carrier named after them.

01-23-2017 , 04:07 PM

#570

suzzer99

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Not the funniest one of these ever, but by far the closest to actual reality.

01-23-2017 , 04:08 PM

#571

DVaut1

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyWf

Why the **** did Rubio go so hard at him at the confirmation hearing? That's just incredibly shortsighted.

Seems to me like the Rubio/Cruz wing of the party are pretty transparently hedging their bets. They are posturing some mix of Trump obstructionism followed by eventual obedience.

I assume they are betting this will leave them outs in either case: if Trump is popular or at least maintains his standing on the right, they can say they were ultimately good soldiers and fell into line. If Trump turns into a disaster, they can retroactively hand themselves Profile in Courage Awards for their brave and principled opposition to Trump and cast themselves as the new standard bearers of a GOP that's learned some hard lessons and should have followed Rubio/Cruz all along.

It's not even a bad bet. They're guessing, probably rightfully, that they can craft their own narratives and the public, or at least the GOP electorate, will forget all the contradictory behavior that lies against whatever the eventual, convenient story they want to tell is.

Politics is LIFO imo. If Trump turns into a clownshow and his approval goes in the ****ter -- the NeverTrumps and others who pussy-footed around will come out strong against him and pretend they were strident opponents all along.

It took Trump a long time to win over Fox, the mainstream GOP, etc. If he becomes politically toxic, they will jump quick imo and then much of the pliable mainstream media will go scrambling to restore the old order where Rubio et al are the sober-minded, center-right Beltway normals who always have the best interests of the Republic at heart and were against Trump all along, if we had only listened.

I think there's a sort of savvy play here to ultimately be a GOP troll-cum-toady. Troll Trump a little bit when the cameras are on at key points so you can quickly get out of the fire escape when the thing turns full-on dumpster fire and point to a few high profile examples of apostasy, but ultimately be a straight-line GOP voter so you don't get primaried. Most of these high profile cases like Rubio and Cruz are Senators and Trump can't do THAT much to punish them and ultimately he needs some measure of their collective consent, so Trump probably can't punish the trolling behaviors too severely.

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01-23-2017 , 04:12 PM

#572

dinopoker

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Quote:

Originally Posted by juan valdez

I'm definitely biased but it does seem odd to have the sorts of outrage mentioned on the last couple pages from clinton supporters

Tax returns and business conflicts.... um you were supporting someone with a ton of shady business conflicts with the foundation.... as someone working for the government, not in the private sector. Try to be honest with yourselves as to how shady the foundation is/was and compare that to speculation as to what trump could realistically be up to with business conflicts. One has a track record of doing big business in the private sector and no track record of corruption as a politician vs a couple that used their political power as a government official and expected next president to do big business with the private sector. One is far more shady and even illegal. Maybe there was outrage here and i just did pick up on it. Then theres the obvious case of deleting and bleaching public records after a subpoena. Then theres the email arrangement in the first place. Again, maybe the outrage existed and i missed it but reading the current outrage on current topics seems way off balance

Speaking of alternative facts. Trump was probably one of the most dishonest and corrupt real estate builders in the history of New York, and that's saying something.

I mean, the guy doesn't even pay his bills, he just outright stiffs people. If he did that on this forum he'd be permabanned but for some reason running for office makes it all a-ok.

01-23-2017 , 04:18 PM

#573

Lilu7

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Quote:

Originally Posted by All-In Flynn

Hey all you guys who regular engage with these guys: No matter how sick the burn, no matter how total the refutation, all you're doing is giving these guys what they want. If there's a fundamental theorem of trolling, it's that the troll wins when you reply. Your reply's content is not relevant.

And I'm of course guilty of the odd slip, sometimes it's fun etc. But still.

this please. stop engaging the morons. literally cannot say this enough. as someone posted above, Trump could nuke Canada and these idiots would be yelling about emails.