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Holy Crap. Like how does anyone defend this?

https://twitter.com/GMoney__305/stat...493761/video/1

Someone please embed that tweet if it didn't come up.

EDIT: Ehh.. to be fair to Trump, the black guy puts that pole in his right hand and walks past him.

That is an epic snub by the black clergyman. I had to play it about a dozen times, and laughed every time.

Someone needs to buy that dude a beer.

01-22-2017 , 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wheatrich

If the economy was good he wouldn't have gotten elected. That's why the white midwest voted for him. It's not for the common white person over here compared to 8 years ago. (in before things that only rich people have or benefit from get posted as the rebuttal)

fixed for clarity

This isn't a Breitbart comments section homeboy.

01-22-2017 , 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by runout_mick

That is an epic snub by the black clergyman. I had to play it about a dozen times, and laughed every time.

Someone needs to buy that dude a beer.

Yea for sure. The first time I watched it, I was focused on Trump and not him. But then when I watched it again, the dude clearly snubbed him. Awesome.

01-22-2017 , 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by goofyballer

Sushy I had some questions for you yesterday here and here, any thoughts? I need to know what's going on in the mind of Trump supporters on this front.

Umm.

All that stuff's a bit silly really. Just a variation on the little Marco theme. Not even worth discussing really.

As for Kellyanne in a Nazi uniform, now there's something worth discussing. Every time I think about it, I have to go and have a cold shower.

What's your opinion?

01-22-2017 , 11:07 PM

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Right, another part I thought might be overlooked:

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The Conway interview was pure horror. Read the transcript for maximum effect.

01-22-2017 , 11:22 PM

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I refuse to let a single one of these statements go un-loled-at unless and until we actually see the Senate or House stop something Trump does. Thus far, there are zero indications they have any interest in doing so.

Do the election hacking hearings count?

01-22-2017 , 11:29 PM

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All that stuff's a bit silly really. Just a variation on the little Marco theme. Not even worth discussing really.

Seriously? Trump sent his press secretary, in one of his first (maybe the first?) official briefings, out to straight up lie about inauguration crowds (I assume we're not in disagreement over that). You don't think that's meaningful or significant in any way, just Trump gonna Trump? You expect these lies from him at this point?

01-22-2017 , 11:33 PM

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Trump has to lie about anything that makes him look better even when it's nonsensical or irrelevant to do so. I'd have been surprised if he didn't do that.

01-22-2017 , 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by microbet

Is this real?

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Originally Posted by 5ive

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The Conway interview was pure horror. Read the transcript for maximum effect.

Right out of the gate:

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CHUCK TODD:

And joining me now is the counselor to President Trump, Kellyanne Conway. Miss Conway, welcome to the White House north lawn which will--

KELLYANNE CONWAY:

Hi, Chuck.

CHUCK TODD:

--become a familiar place for you I think--

KELLYANNE CONWAY:

Yes.

CHUCK TODD:

--for the next few years. Let me begin with this question, the presidency is about choices. So I'm curious why President Trump chose yesterday to send out his press secretary to essentially litigate a provable falsehood when it comes to a small and petty thing like inaugural crowd size. I guess my question to you is why do that?

Conway goes sideways for a solid ****ing minute of airtime:

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KELLYANNE CONWAY:

Chuck, the president did many things yesterday and the day before that are very meaningful to America. He signed executive orders to stop Obamacare and all of its problems. Many people have lost their-- Millions of people have lost their insurance, their doctors, their plans. So that stops right now.

He's going to replace it with something much more free-market and patient-centric in nature. And on this matter of crowd size, I mean, for me I think the most quantifiable points of interest for Americans should be what just happened a few months ago that brought him here, the 31 of 50 states he won, the 2,600 counties, the 200 counties that went for President Obama that now went to President Trump. And the fact that 29, 30 million women voted for Donald Trump for president. They should be respected. Somebody should cover their voices as well.

I'm about things that are quantifiable and important. I don't think that-- I don't think ultimately presidents are judged by crowd sizes at their inauguration. I think they're judged by their accomplishments. And we know that President Obama and his accomplishments, that there's a lot of unfinished business there.

And on this matter of crowd size I think it is a symbol for the unfair and incomplete treatment that this president often receives. I'm very heartened to see Nielsen just came out with the ratings, 31 million people watching the inauguration. President Obama had 20.5 million watching his second inauguration four short years ago. So we know people are also watching the inauguration on different screens and in different modes. And that there was, I mean, for me there was a prediction of a downpour of rain. I think that deterred many people from coming. But no question there were hundreds of thousands of people out on the mall and--

Todd tries to restore sanity and Conway drops the hammer:

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CHUCK TODD:

All right, Kellyanne, let me stop you here because--

KELLYANNE CONWAY:

--you know, many people enthused.

CHUCK TODD:

--you make a very reasonable and rational case for why crowd sizes don't matter. Then explain, you did not answer the question, why did the president send out his press secretary, who's not just the spokesperson for Donald Trump. He could be-- He also serves as the spokesperson for all of America at times. He speaks for all of the country at times. Why put him out there for the very first time in front of that podium to utter a provable falsehood? It's a small thing. But the first time he confronts the public it's a falsehood?

KELLYANNE CONWAY:

Chuck, I mean, if we're going to keep referring to our press secretary in those types of terms I think that we're going to have to rethink our relationship here.

I mean w in the f...

But the real horror is this:

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KELLYANNE CONWAY:

Ask him why-- Ask him why Donald Trump as president has nominated 21 of the 21 cabinet positions only to have two, a grand total of two, confirmed while he takes office? So the Democratic Senate wants to hold up treasury, commerce, energy, education. The list goes on.

We should have the respect and deference of having a cabinet seated so this peaceful transition of power occurs properly. But he went to the C.I.A. because lies have been told about his relationship and his respect for the intelligence community. So he went right there. We had over 1,000 requests to attend. We can only accommodate three or four hundred--

CHUCK TODD:

Can I-- can I ask you to--

KELLYANNE CONWAY:

--and he embraced--

CHUCK TODD:

--Can I ask you what the lies--

KELLYANNE CONWAY:

--the intelligence community.

CHUCK TODD:

--can I ask you to tell me what lies about the intelligence community were uttered about President Trump's relationship with the intelligence community?

KELLYANNE CONWAY:

That he doesn't respect them. Do you think what outgoing C.I.A. director said yesterday in a statement using the vocabulary, the language he used about our new president of the United States somehow, quote, improves our relationship with the intelligence community? It is irresponsible. It is reprehensible. And it is totally unnecessary.

CHUCK TODD:

Okay. Then let me ask you this, is this responsible, he called it, "was disgraceful, intelligence agencies allowed any information, so false and fake out, disgrace, say, that's something, Nazi Germany would have done and did so." "Disgrace," that was on January 11th. Was it right to compare the intelligence community with Nazi Germany?

KELLYANNE CONWAY:

What's not right, Chuck, is that the day before, you had people releasing a dossier full of junk and lies and fake news. And why did they release the dossier? Because people knew that Russian hacking was fading from view as an election had been totally dismissed as having any credibility or nexus towards our election results.

Hillary Clinton lost that election fairly and squarely basically running on the same messages we heard here yesterday in Washington D.C. and elsewhere. I heard, like, a repeat. It was this awful sequel, as awful as the original. We just litigated all this in the campaign.

They came to Washington and said the same thing. Donald Trump, President Trump is very concerned about the leaks that have occurred. And is very concerned that people would really denigrate the way the respect that he has for men and women of the intelligence community. Why don't you go back to his statement on Friday, January 6th after he had an intelligence briefing that he and Vice President Pence won't talk about because it's top secret. And they won't leak about it because you're not supposed to. They're protecting our intelligence and they're protecting the security of people like you and me and our children, Chuck, by not leaking.

But what he said that day on January 6th, put that statement up for your viewers if you want to do us an honest service. He said in the beginning of the statement, "I respect the service of our great men and women in the intelligence community." And then the last part of the statement was that he looks forward to directing his own intelligence team within 90 days of becoming the president of the United States to give us a better view of cyber security and to put better security measures in place.

Yes, they're saying that because 1) the senate won't roll over and snap-confirm everybody and 2) the intelligence community doesn't respect the administration, they are going to just make a new trumpcentric anti-intelligence agency. This is real.

01-23-2017 , 12:01 AM

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Kellyanne Conway
Media Attack Dog

01-23-2017 , 12:08 AM

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I personally took his rise to power with a grain of salt because demagogues tend to calm down when they get to power.

That being said, I was still very much concerned not only by his policies on foreign relationships but also in the way he attacked the press and anyone contradicting him. He is a megalomaniac and this is very concerning to me because you cannot lead the most important country in the world the way he wants to do it. Unrest will keep growing. Taking a divisive approach is a terrible idea to lead a country so multicultural.

His attacks on the free press are unprecedented and the thing most concerning to me is him trying to twist anything, true or false, to his side. His crew are trying very hard to build a cult of personality for him.

I cannot not think about our good friend from WW2 from Germany when i think about this guy and the way he built his image. Even his speech about being great again is a ****ing copy-paste.

Your dear concerned Canadian,

01-23-2017 , 12:09 AM

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I'm noticing when you read what clowns like the crazy lady and sphincter boy say on paper, its clear all their remarks are planned ahead of time. Like Chuck Todd could have said "I just sharted in my pants. It's a good thing you can't smell it, Anyway, how are you?" and the crazy lady would have gone right into her planned routine with nary a thought to what Todd had just said to her.

01-23-2017 , 12:12 AM

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Wikileaks has turned on trump. Saying his refusal to release tax returns worse than Clinton.

Amazing to see this guy crash and burn so quickly.

01-23-2017 , 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian

Kellyanne Conway
Media Attack Dog

Spin doctor is a more appropriate term imo.

Nothing unusual.

01-23-2017 , 12:29 AM

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Wikileaks has turned on trump. Saying his refusal to release tax returns worse than Clinton.

Amazing to see this guy crash and burn so quickly.

I guess with mission elect Trump accomplished, their handlers at the Kremlin have let them off the leash.

Seriously, how is THAT some kind of breaking point? That was going on for months! Did they expect him after he won to be like "ok, NOW you can see my tax returns"? And even if he did, would that make it OK not to release them during the campaign?

01-23-2017 , 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by synth_floyd

Reince Prebius sounds exactly like KellyAnne Conway now.

Conway and Preibus just spent a total of ~25 min on national TV and all they talked about was crowd sizes and media bias. I do wonder if all this BS about focusing on crowd sizes and tweets and blah blah is a deliberate tactic to distract from the real issues. Like Trump doesn't know anything about anything, his cabinet picks are a bunch of incompetent hacks, the GOP has no plan to replace Obamacare, etc. And the media is buying it hook like and sinker. If so, you gotta hand it to Bannon, and co. They really are playing 3d chess.

I wonder if the story about the MLK bust being removed was fed to a gullible reporter so they could later yell media bias fake news so unfair.....If so expect more of this kind of tactic to further try and discredit the media.

01-23-2017 , 12:37 AM

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I can only assume from Sushy not wanting to talk about this that he's at least embarrassed by it, which is encouraging for estimations of his IQ. Not so much for the odds of him owning up to his Dear Leader ever doing anything wrong, though.

01-23-2017 , 12:39 AM

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This is to give the appearance that they are not biased for Trump.

01-23-2017 , 12:48 AM

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Not sure if I'm ponied here, but Trump said in the CIA speech that God held off on the rain during his inauguration and there was a downpour afterwards. In fact it drizzled during the inauguration and there was no such downpour. This guy.

01-23-2017 , 12:57 AM

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https://weather.com/ = fake news

01-23-2017 , 01:00 AM

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Liberal watchdog group to sue Trump, alleging he violated constitutional ban

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The group, Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, said that because Trump-owned buildings take in rent, room rentals and other payments from foreign governments, the president has breached the Emoluments Clause. That clause in the Constitution says that “no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under [the United States], shall, without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign State.” It was written out of fear that the young republic’s leaders or ambassadors could be bought off by a richer European power.

The meaning of those words has never truly been tested in court. The watchdog group says the text should be interpreted to mean that Trump’s businesses should cease all business dealings with foreign states.

01-23-2017 , 01:05 AM

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Kellyanne reminds me of a scientologist

01-23-2017 , 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisV

I can't really explain why, but judging by some of the "maybe Trump shaking things up will be a good thing" posters around here, I wouldn't be shocked if wikileaks people somehow believed Trump was going to release them as soon as possible or didn't think it was right to hold a private citizen to the same standard as an elected official or something bizarre.

Or maybe it does have something to do with Russia.

01-23-2017 , 01:13 AM

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Wikileaks has turned on trump. Saying his refusal to release tax returns worse than Clinton.

Amazing to see this guy crash and burn so quickly.

The Clinton stuff was all revenge / vendetta based by Assange. They accomplished their goal there and now can move on to trump and pretend like they are some impartial news source.