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06-15-2017 , 04:11 PM
Crooked H and the Basket of Deplorables
06-15-2017 , 04:12 PM
There are lots of hippy-dippy people on the left who are into crystal healing and dubious alternative medicines and UFOs and ****, but they usually aren't very politically active outside of pushing for leagalized pot. Very much doubt that they follow the Xs and Os of politics the way Alex Jones fans do.
06-15-2017 , 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by wheatrich
Tax returns are unlikely to directly show either.
Wha, why do you say that? Like simplicitus says, the returns won't show money being funneled into Tax Fraud Inc, but his history gives good reason to believe an investigation will show some questionable or illegal dealings.
06-15-2017 , 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by champstark
Uh oh Daddy got his phone back and is letting loose

That was exactly the RNC talking point I commented on yesterday.
06-15-2017 , 04:16 PM
Look at the replies to that tweet. It's insane. His fans, and I mean verified writers and whatnot, are still posting anti-Hillary memes to this day. They are totally obsessed.

This is some impressive level of paranoia. Deep State, man. Deep State:


https://twitter.com/pnehlen/status/875442680410632192


https://twitter.com/pnehlen/status/875443336638865408
06-15-2017 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ScreaminAsian
no left alex jones that i can identify. maybe keith obermann is a lefty type of limbaugh but obermann has a youtube channel and rush is syndicated on hundreds of radio stations making tens of millions a year so you can't compare their influence
Michael Moore
06-15-2017 , 04:28 PM

https://twitter.com/HallieJackson/st...12225695117312
06-15-2017 , 04:31 PM
I would disagree with Micheal Moore and Keith Olbermann because as far as I know, they don't engage in willfully deceiving people or spreading conspiracy theories. Compare a Micheal Moore documentary to a D'nesh Disouazsa movie or one of Alex Jones' many movies. It's a totally different ballgame.

I would say the closest example is Louise Mensch, which is interesting because she's not really of the left, she's of the right. The Young Turks maybe?
06-15-2017 , 04:33 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ0NHhnMY9o

And this is probably one of his better works.

Edit: Really great scene at 42:00 with Alex screaming into the wind about the Queen of the Netherlands and how he won't be the slave of the Illuminati. It's really something.

Last edited by einbert; 06-15-2017 at 04:49 PM.
06-15-2017 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Trolly McTrollson
There are lots of hippy-dippy people on the left who are into crystal healing and dubious alternative medicines and UFOs and ****, but they usually aren't very politically active outside of pushing for leagalized pot.
This kind of thing is what I had in mind, less so the things like "Liver Cleanse" or whatever Infowars sells.
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Originally Posted by einbert
Look at the replies to that tweet. It's insane. His fans, and I mean verified writers and whatnot, are still posting anti-Hillary memes to this day. They are totally obsessed.
Yeah, the dude you posted tweets from is particularly nuts, he had this one a few days ago:


that I almost liked until I looked into it and saw he wasn't joking around saying that.
06-15-2017 , 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by einbert
Look at the replies to that tweet. It's insane. His fans, and I mean verified writers and whatnot, are still posting anti-Hillary memes to this day. They are totally obsessed.

This is some impressive level of paranoia. Deep State, man. Deep State:


https://twitter.com/pnehlen/status/875442680410632192


https://twitter.com/pnehlen/status/875443336638865408
he seems stable
06-15-2017 , 04:35 PM
Seeing a lot of "the left is calling for political violence" and "both sides do it" since the shooting the other day. I offered to send $$ no strings attached for anyone to find me a Democrat saying something similar to that Rand Paul quote about shooting at the government - so far crickets.
06-15-2017 , 04:37 PM
Oh right some nutter posted a bunch of quotes from Dems saying they want to take people's guns away
06-15-2017 , 04:37 PM
well, they've got one right, Brazille is trash; DNC really should stop paying her.

Maddow is the left version of Hannity. Mensch is just of the crazy.

WH probably has some intern who's job it is to tell like Priebus that Trump got on twitter and to give him something else to do. That job has to really suck.
06-15-2017 , 04:39 PM
Maddow is no where close to Hannity
06-15-2017 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by einbert
Paul Ryan plays hearthstone?
06-15-2017 , 04:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheatrich
Maddow is the left version of Hannity. Mensch is just of the crazy.
come on man
06-15-2017 , 04:44 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wheatrich
well, they've got one right, Brazille is trash; DNC really should stop paying her.

Maddow is the left version of Hannity. Mensch is just of the crazy.

WH probably has some intern who's job it is to tell like Priebus that Trump got on twitter and to give him something else to do. That job has to really suck.
What products does Maddow personally shill for that are complete scams?
06-15-2017 , 04:48 PM


06-15-2017 , 04:48 PM
hannity WISHES he was the right's version of rachel maddow
06-15-2017 , 04:51 PM
Saw this post on Reddit about how Repubs felt about Nixon during his investigation. Thought it might be interesting.

Support for Nixon was extremely strong among conservative circles, particularly in the South, despite the scandal. Opinion polls taken in late 1973 and published in the first week of 1974 showed vast support for the charges against Nixon, but on actual impeachment, the country was much more divided.

In the South, there was a popular belief that the moves against Nixon were "little more than a Northern liberal plot," possibly even a Communist-inspired plot, to embarass the president. When Nixon visited Jackson, Mississippi in April 1974, he was greeted by a cheering crowd of 10,000 people. The local paper, the Jackson Daily News, published a front-page editorial saying Nixon had been "electronically lynched each evening in the living rooms of the land" and that the media was to blame for the president's troubles.

Nationally, William F. Buckley Jr., editor of the National Review, wrote a lengthy and impassioned defense of Nixon in the May 20, 1973 issue of the New York Times. Buckley wrote that it was inappropriate to judge the president by normal standards, and in fact what he did was not out of line with the actions of previous presidents. "The evolution of the Presidency slowly, but not less certainly, transformed the office and presented the republic with an unwritten qualification," Buckley wrote. "It is this: You must not impeach and remove a President merely for the purpose of punishing him."

There was, of course, ample response to Buckley.

You might consider that Nixon had a large base of support (after all, he was elected President twice, and if you consider 1960, was nearly elected three times) that gradually eroded as more information became published. The New York Herald Tribune had a fairly typical pro-Nixon editorial stance before it went out of business in 1966 (h/t /u/texum

for the clarification), as did the Manchester Union Leader. As the scandals of Nixon's second term gained light (credit the Washington Post here for picking up on stories that others discounted or underplayed), Nixon's support began to erode. The conservative magazine Ideas (it folded in 1975) was one of the longer-lasting defenders, as was William Safire, Nixon's speechwriter (before an abrupt resignation), penned a book partially in defense of Nixon. "I'm writing this book sympathetic, but not sycophantic," Safire said in 1973, two years before the book was published in 1975.

When Nixon's transcripts became public in 1974, even people like Buckley deserted him. Only the hardest of hardcore supporters stayed with Nixon, and with friends in the House and Senate saying that impeachment and conviction were likely, Nixon resigned.

sources
http://www.nytimes.com/1974/01/13/ar...s-drop-by.html
http://www.nytimes.com/1974/04/26/ar...-welcomed.html
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstrac...DE&legacy=true
http://www.nytimes.com/1973/06/10/ar...uckley-jr.html

Last edited by StimAbuser; 06-15-2017 at 04:57 PM.
06-15-2017 , 04:52 PM
It's pretty damn offensive to compare Maddow and Hannity. Just admit that you're not familiar with the work of one or the other.
06-15-2017 , 04:58 PM
ALEC and the Kochs trying hard to get their constitutional convention

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/the-...y-may-succeed/
06-15-2017 , 05:01 PM
Reminder that gasbag morons like David Brooks continue to hold people like Buckley up as a nostalgic figure who represents a (completely fictional) time when conservative media spoke with intelligence and compassion on the issues of the day.
06-15-2017 , 05:04 PM
Crucial Steps in Combating the Aids Epidemic; Identify All the Carriers
William F. Buckley
http://www.nytimes.com/books/00/07/1...kley-aids.html
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But if the time has not come, and may never come, for public identification, what then of private identification?

Everyone detected with AIDS should be tatooed in the upper forearm, to protect common-needle users, and on the buttocks, to prevent the victimization of other homosexuals.

You have got to be kidding! That's exactly what we suspected all along! You are calling for the return of the Scarlet Letter, but only for homosexuals!

Answer: The Scarlet Letter was designed to stimulate public obloquy. The AIDS tattoo is designed for private protection. And the whole point of this is that we are not talking about a kidding matter. Our society is generally threatened, and in order to fight AIDS, we need the civil equivalent of universal military training.

      
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