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01-31-2017 , 01:39 PM

#3776

ScreaminAsian

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01-31-2017 , 01:42 PM

#3777

champstark

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Quote:

Originally Posted by microbet

IMO Trump's statement was worse because it was calculated (by Bannon probably).

I'm not sure if avwal's comment was antisemitic or just being an *******. I think there's at least some ethnocentrism on display in that as I doubt he would be so insensitive if it were in relation to a group he identified with.

That seems fair, although I don't know to what extent Bannon was involved with the statement.

My general test for anti-Semitism on Holocaust stuff is if what the person says in anyway diminishes the fact that the Holocaust was a genocide committed specifically targeting Jews and that the US (along with other countries) did not do enough to stop it, fully knowing the repercussions, then the comment is absolutely anti-Semitic. Both the tears thing and the statement fall under this category, IMO.

01-31-2017 , 01:42 PM

#3778

microbet

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I didn't see the original of that gif. I don't know what he was putting on display, but I expect it was about as presidential as "kat -> meow".

01-31-2017 , 01:46 PM

#3779

microbet

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Quote:

Originally Posted by champstark

That seems fair, although I don't know to what extent Bannon was involved with the statement.

I don't know either, but it's hard to imagine Trump being sophisticated enough to do it on purpose. We shouldn't forget that he's an idiot. He can barely read. Remember his ghost writer talking about him? He probably hasn't read much beyond a headline in years. People constantly say he can't pay attention to a conversation.

01-31-2017 , 02:02 PM

#3780

psithurism

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Kat meow A+

01-31-2017 , 02:09 PM

#3781

Trolly McTrollson

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01-31-2017 , 02:10 PM

#3782

.isolated

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Screamin, thanks for posting that gif. Made my day already.

01-31-2017 , 02:21 PM

#3783

Nonfiction

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Winner gets a rose?

01-31-2017 , 02:22 PM

#3784

seattlelou

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Nonfiction

Winner gets a rose?

Probably. It's a strange world.

01-31-2017 , 02:23 PM

#3785

Rococo

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So it appears that some Democratic senators view a filibuster as a "one time", and are unwilling to exercise it for the sake of opposing a a non-crazy nominee who will not swing the idealogical balance of the Court.

My guess is that Republicans almost certainly would not have to exercise the nuclear option to get Hardiman through. Maybe there is a 20-30% chance that they would have to exercise it to get Gorsuch through. And there is a 90% chance that they would have to exercise it to get Pryor through because he is viewed by Senate Democrats as the most extreme by far.

01-31-2017 , 02:32 PM

#3786

.isolated

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I love how Trump's viewing this as a ****ing game and announcing this in prime time like it's a game show for him. Now even bringing in more than one person for suspense. Pathetic.

01-31-2017 , 02:35 PM

#3787

ScreaminAsian

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"donald j trump is a ratings machine" - president donald j trump

01-31-2017 , 02:38 PM

#3788

m_reed05

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Spicer press briefing going down hill fast. Everyone arguing with Spicer talking over each other.

01-31-2017 , 02:39 PM

#3789

ScreaminAsian

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sean spicer is usually pretty spicy, but today he's even spicier

01-31-2017 , 02:39 PM

#3790

m_reed05

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Also lol at turning the SC nominee pick into a ****ing gameshow. Bringing both of them to DC in the dark.

01-31-2017 , 02:40 PM

#3791

jmakin

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Spicer's on a rampage lol

These press conferences are some of the only things I like about this whole thing

It's just so absurd

01-31-2017 , 02:48 PM

#3792

Trolly McTrollson

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Bull**** Spice is having a bad day.

01-31-2017 , 02:50 PM

#3793

Sean Spicer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Spicer press briefing going down hill fast. Everyone arguing with Spicer talking over each other.

NOT TRUE, YOU'RE SPREADING MISINFORMATION

01-31-2017 , 02:52 PM

#3794

Klingbard

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Jan 15: trump tells WaPo government needs to negotiate drug prices with big pharma.

Jan 17: HHS nominee Price won't agree to this (as he voted against such measures as a congressman), saying that he will follow the president's decision.

Today:

01-31-2017 , 02:52 PM

#3795

DeroDeniro

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Spicer: AG should do whatever President wants within the law.

What a dumb thing to say. I'm surprised no reporter followed it up with the easiest hypotheticals ever.

Off the top of my head:

"So, with that logic, you [Spicer] would have been okay if Nixon had fired the AG for not firing Archibald Cox?"

Or: Something something Jim Crow laws.

These journalists need to up their game.

01-31-2017 , 02:53 PM

#3796

champstark

aka starkwired

Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 14,838

Quote:

Originally Posted by m_reed05

Also lol at turning the SC nominee pick into a ****ing gameshow. Bringing both of them to DC in the dark.

It makes such little sense--there are rumors someone is retiring and he's going to nominate both. Who knows.

01-31-2017 , 02:54 PM

#3797

goofyballer

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sportsjefe

worst thing the ACLU could've done was post stuff like this:

https://twitter.com/ACLU/status/825564344247201792

You won about as narrow a stay (not even a result) as you could possibly have won. IOW, you haven't won jack. The fight is only beginning and people need to understand that.

This isn't gloating, this is PR. To get more support the ACLU needs to show that the work they're doing matters.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WillieWin?

Your link's 7 points articulate my position on what's unfolding pretty much perfectly. Seems like there's method in the madness to me. I think those 7 points important enough speculation to post here in case folk don't follow the link:

Quote:

4. While the nation’s attention is on our extreme EO, slip a few more
nuanced moves through. For example, reconfigure the National Security
Council so that it’s led by our inner circle. Or gut the State Department’s
ability to resist more extreme moves. That will have massive benefits down
the road — the NSC are the folks that authorize secret assassinations against
enemies of the state, including American citizens. Almost nobody has time to
analyze that move closely, and those that do can’t get coverage.

This seems like insane FPS analysis to me. The Bannon to NSC thing was reported on, and what's the implication of this article, that if only people weren't too busy protesting in the streets over the immigration ban they would be protesting in the streets about Bannon on the NSC, rising up to stop it from happening? Get out of here, that **** is way too wonky for people to protest, if it's legal then it was always going to happen anyway and never be opposed anyway no matter how they chose to do it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by awval999

The unsung heros of the Republic for the next four years are going to be the Senators who cross party lines. The McCains and Grahams of the right and the McCaskill and Testers of the left.

Uh, awval, what great work are the liberals who break with their own party to join Republicans (spoiler: to do something Trump wants) going to be doing during this administration?

01-31-2017 , 03:01 PM

#3798

JacktheDumb

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I just realized that President Comacho from the movie Idiocracy did a better job then Trump ever will. He actually managed to gather the smartest people around him.