google keyboard can swipe the space bar to move the cursor i think

You're welcome!

As for moving the caret, yeah that's def better on iOS. One solution would be to try a keyboard like Google keyboard (slide left/right on spacebar to move cursor) or Swiftkey (add arrow keys if you like). I highly recommend both of those, just depends on your typing style. Both keyboards handle regular thumb typing as well as swiping (can turn swiping off). I find Google keyboard to be better if you like to swipe (might be weird to you coming from iPhone), while Swiftkey works better for two-thumb typers IMO. In either case, decrease the long-press delay to under 200ms so you can access numbers and symbols quickly without having to change keyboard layout.

Tried this, didn't like the custom screen that appears when a notification arrives. Tried LightFlow (recommended from another forum thread on the googles), did way more than what I wanted and seemed complex and had a display bug. Tried Screen Notifications which is delightfully simple and does exactly what I needed and nothing more. Am finally happy.

Goofy you seem to have made an interesting transition from using an iPhone (which people choose because they don't care how things work) to being extremely picky

For the record I think the notification system on Android is GOAT and after using an iPhone for a few weeks I want to ****ing kill myself.

ETA: Not saying that it doesn't make sense though, because you clearly made the switch because part of you at least is starting to care...

I think the attraction with Apple that I grew to like was consistency - they have strong conventions and standards in their UIs that they tend to enforce through restrictions on what app programmers can do and what they accept in the store. Android is much less restrictive in both areas, which leads to more power and (for better or worse) diversity in behavior/conventions/etc. It's a tradeoff with merits on both sides.

As a Windows user I also like that I can program stuff on this phone now. The Screen Notifications thing I posted last night is open source so I'm working on adding an option to it to disable the screen lighting up when DND is active.

Done with LG phones. The wife and I have each had a G3 G4 and G5 and each gen at least one of us had had overheating, boot looping, etc.

Got great trade in deal at Verizon black Friday weekend and got her an iPhone 7 Plus 128GB and me a Google Pixel XL 128GB. Got 669.99 towards the iPhone and 649.99 towards the Pixel.

Finally got my own Pixel as well. It's ****ing amazing. This might be the first phone I'm 100% satisfied with.

Galaxy S8 is not going to feature a 3.5mm headphone jack

If true, I'm a bit surprised. Wasn't Samsung making fun of the iPhone's lack of a headphone jack?

Given that the 6P didn't drop at all in cost (Came on the market at $499 for the 32GB; only down to $50 on Amazon and $100 on ProjectFi) it looks like the Oneplus 3T is hands down the best value buy on the market ($440-64GB). Any other contenders?

Got to admit I made fun of iPhone not having a headphone jack, but the Moto Z Force doesn't have one. It came with an adapter I just leave on my corded headphones I use and I haven't noticed any inconvenience.

Yea I think no headphone jack is overall not a huuuuge deal - it's just that I can't imagine the benefits from not having one are worth it...

People still use corded headphones?

no.

People that like sound quality do.

People who are already bored of worrying about phone battery and don't want to worry about headphone battery aswell

Um, yea, most of them...? Lol?

In my life I have 2 places for headphones: exercising and traveling. I just recently got a bluetooth set for working out - that's a great use case, but I'd be a bit disappointed if I bought a new phone with which I can't use my nice overear noise cancelling Bose for long trips.

All for the sake of a sliver of extra space for 2-5% extra processing and/or 2-5% extra battery. As I said, it's marginal either way (not having to use an adapter is nice but not necessary, the extra hardware benefits of no jack is nice but questionably noticeable), but I'd rather have the jack.

The case for headphone jack replacement is pretty weak. Won't be buying the S8 that's for sure.

Agreed, wireless headphones make a lot more sense for use with a device that you aren't carrying around with you...

Minor annoyance - I'm trying out Google Messenger as my default texting app (mostly because it seems to send better quality pictures over MMS than the default Messages app - not sure if that's made by Samsung or if it's a universal Android thing?). When setting Google Messenger to the default messaging app, it loads all my SMS conversations...

...except, it only loads messages I've sent from before I got my Android phone. It gets my sent messages from my old iPhone, but anything I've sent with the default Messages app doesn't show up. All my recent conversations are just a sea of messages I received from the other person, with no context.

Is there any way to export those from Messages into Google Messenger?

Sound like a Samsung bug. The SMS history source should be the same for all SMS apps they must have imported your apple history in a non standard way.

As for mms quality they seems to overcompress them. My wife sent me some documents pictures from her friend phone and it was unreadable.

I figured out that the culprit is the "Advanced Messaging" feature of the Messages app. Apparently a few carriers have it (I use AT&T) and it's supposed to be like iMessage but stupidly only works with people who are both using Android and using the same carrier as you. Wow, great feature!

Anyway, I turned it off and sent a text in Messages, then went to Messenger and the text also showed up there. So it seems like it's only texts sent with Advanced Messaging turned on that aren't being saved to my phone's SMS history. Not sure if there's anything I can do about this other than never use this piece of **** feature again. :/

I d move on and not bother since you won't care in a few days.
They need to stop that let's all try to do our imessage it's stupid. Blame your phone providers tho, in France SMS or mms are unlimited for 5+ year and made that kind of feature useless

And gg apple for never releasing imessage on Android that was moronic. Apple is going blackberry down if they don't react. Android won the mobile war and Microsoft is winning the hybrid laptop war.

That may be a Euro-centric perspective - Apple is doing very, very well in the US in both categories (iPhones and Macbooks).

I work on products (w/ phone connectivity) sold in the US and some European countries and our European audience definitely tilts more Android-heavy than our US audience.

They lost Asia aswell.
A brand like xiaomi is coming to USA officially next year gl to Apple if they thought Android was a pain already.

Seems like you fixed your issue, but just wanted to say sorry that you're using a Samsung phone

Heh interesting, I just solved a different MMS issue for my parents by turning off Advanced Messaging on my mom's phone. She has an S7, dad has Nexus 5X, and he wasn't receiving her messages in group texts.

Lol, iMessage is the only thing keeping probably 20%ish or iPhone users as iPhone users. And what benefit would releasing iMessage to Android have them to compensate for this cost? Apple is a hardware company, not a services company like Google.

You're very wrong if you think Apple's on the out. They have way too strong of a user base and way too loyal of a following. And their products usually fail only in ways that their users (most simpletons) don't care about.