I'm not in the same place for more than a day usually and can't really schedule very far in advance. It's just easier to pick some up.

That might be complicated then

Can't you have it sent to an Amazon Locker closest to wherever you'll be? Really doubt Verizon stores have batteries in stock. They usually have to order stuff too.

The battery situation with this Moto Z Force is fantastic. It seems to last forever and charges very quickly, I guess that's all you can ask for as far as a better battery.

I just saw something that other owners were all excited because these phones are starting to get Nougat updates, which I know nothing about.

Never heard of it. I'll check it out.

travelingmailbox.com

This works well for me.

So I ordered a Pixel a while ago, and it was supposed to arrive last Wednesday (11/16). Fed Ex reported it as delivered, but it was nowhere to be found. Google disappointingly just offered me a refund, but no expedited 2nd order or freebies or anything. The wheels were already in motion in selling my current/old phone (Nexus 6P), so I had to reset and pack that guy up yesterday. My new Pixel should be shipping today or tomorrow and hopefully I'll get it at the end of the week..... but now I have to use this disgusting iPhone 5s (backup phone from my gf we have lying around). It's so painful. I dislike iOS way more than I thought I did (nevermind the size... lol).

Grunching, has anyone been talking about the OP3T yet?

Good value? Worth it as a lower cost android alternative to Pixel?

Pixel is terrible value.
It s a luxury phone.
a galaxy s7 6 month after release will have much better value than a pixel.
Think as a pixel as an Iphone equivalent, you are paying the brand at a super high rate.
I can point to you many 300$ phones with much better value than a pixel or an iphone.
a discounted nexus 5C or 6p must be a much better deal than a pixel right now.

Does anyone have leads on 6P Black Fri/Cyber Mon deals?

You're not wrong, but some of us have the disposable income to get exactly what we want rather than worry about value. As much as I use my phone, it's well worth it to get the best phone for me rather than compromising to save a couple hundred bucks.

Nothing wrong with being able to afford a pixel and wanting one. I was answering g-bebe post.

For anyone with infinite money relative to this phone its prolly the best option. My only concern is the drop risk of any phone that change the equation. If you need a case with the phone you shouldn't buy a pixel Imo.
I could make a case for the Moto Z force being better thanks to free screen replacement.

I was going to skim by without dipping my toes in the "in this thread we debate the concept of value" discussion, but I can't leave the above alone. What on earth does that mean?

I mean that a beautiful phone that require a case that will diminish vastly the original design is most likely badly designed in the first place. Same goes for high end phone where they could use much bigger battery for a trivial increase in thickness.

The phone market is Imo moving in a direction where high end phones are making less sense every years.

China now are producing some phone that are really well built cheap to buy. Cheap to repair and provide better batteries and more flexibility with sim trays that accept dual sim or sim + micro SD. Ofc they have trade off on the software side.whether its potential back doors and slower updates or stability issues. They require some Time and knowledge that understandably many people don't want to spend.

I don't think Phil who is a regular itt for years and often changing phones updated us about his umi super yet past the initial review. But I see more and more people trying that kind of phone after having high end phone and being positively surprised and realizing that they do the job fine with less worry to lose/break them or using some stupid protection.

Still not having a problem with someone who want to spend 900$ on a phone. Someone else asked about the pixel value.

Another detail I m curious about since we don't have any reference point on that new product line is how the price will evolve over time.
The nexus line was too cheap at release (appart from last generation) and after 6 months the price didn't make sense anyway. I hope the higher starting point is a tool that help them having more flexibility like Samsung has been doing for years.

I love my OP3. The T seems like a really minor upgrade, but may as well get that if getting one now.

If you're buying a Pixel for the look of it, you have weird taste.

Also, $900 is the most expensive version you can buy, I only spent $650 (not saying it's not a lot, just saying quoting $900 is disingenuous).

That said, I agreed with eddymitchel's post purely on "value" (not absolute quality).

Contemplating on changing out my 6 edge for a Asus ZenPhone 3 Deluxe.

any issues I should know about?

I want see the sales breakdown on the Pixel variants. I'm curious to see how ppl value screen resolution and onboard storage. Personally there's no way I could go with the worse panel and 32GB.

azus = slow ass update and alot of bloatware. prices are ok for the hardware, spare part are cheap and not too hard to fix usually

I had the zenphone 2 for one year and i wouldnt recommend azus from my past experience, not a terrible buy not a great deal compared to a motorola or one plus one.

I m with you 5 inches screen doesnt cut it for a smartphone and 32gb is not enought without sd card support.
so the bill for me would 870$.

I understand the appeal for the larger physical size (that's 100% personal preference), but not for the higher resolution. IMO you're PROBABLY kidding yourself if you think you appreciate the difference outside of maybe VR. You should also consider (and most people don't) that the higher resolution comes with a reduced performance and reduced battery cost.

I also sometimes understand the need for the extra storage, but I think the average user doesn't need it if he/she understands how to use technology in 2016. I'm moving from a 32 GB Nexus 6P and never had < 7-10 GB storage leftover with pretty liberal downloading/storage of music for airplane and gym-with-no-service situations. Nothing else really needs to take up massive storage given Google Photos. Again, I'm not saying no one needs 128, I'm saying the average person shouldn't. THAT said, I also am not surprised that the 128 is probably more popular since it provides peace of mind and big jump for only $100.

If you couldn't already guess, I bought a regular-sized 32 GB.

Waiting for eddymitchel and the bigchinaphone contingent to disagree.

It's a choice that will maybe bite you In ass or not.
I ve 32 go +SD card. I commute a ton in subway so I have a lot of podcast ebook and TV show. And some space to use at work as an USB key.

The lack of storage is the worst after small battery.

about to pull trigger and get one of these.

I got the 128gb Pixel (small screen). I actually ordered both and returned the big one since it was just too big to hold comfortably (I do have smallish hands). Regular Pixel felt great to hold, much better than the 5.2" Droid Turbo I was coming from, and I haven't really noticed that the screen is smaller, even with the software buttons taking up space. So I'm quite happy with the 5" size.

I think I could actually get away with 32gb (was under that after 2 years on my old phone) but I decided it was worth the extra money to be future-proof.

Regarding battery - I was initially concerned about it coming from the Droid Turbo's 3900mAh battery, but I've actually been very impressed. I'm getting about 5.5 hours SOT compared to the 6.5 hours SOT I was getting before, and it's more than enough to get me through most days. My main concern is that battery life holding up over a year or two of use and software updates.

Yeah, my bad, I missed the context for your post.

I'm never going to rely on the cloud for storage needs. Always have my pictures and music in the phone and will backup onto a laptop as needed. I also am not a fan of Google having even more information that pertains to me than needed, I'm not a tinfoil hat wearing government conspiracist at all but this I will never allow.