wow, never thought I would be able to keep up with you guys...

First serious LC/NC argument ever iirc

legalize nipples IMO.

obv incredibly biased stats, also "75% of people are easily convinced by statistics", Violent crime in 15-year decline since 1991 in Canada

I'm not particularly leaning either way, as long as I've been around we've had strict laws on guns so I'm just used to that.

Though we do tend to respond to our most violent cities by giving them a professional hockey team

lol

redneck

Shooting for sport is different than, hey guns are cool i want one.

lolliverpool

see above

yea, its good to have easy access to guns so criminals dont get it too hard ldo

i actually agree with bee [his edit]

Yea if they cant have guns, who is there to protect people from people with guns

thats because americans are fat lazy and dumb. didnt you read my cliffs on different countries

simple, if you need a gun -farmer, hunter whatever. its fine. just dont give them to ever idiot who wants one [not all are idiots but how do you filter them]

im also pretty sure countries with national service teach those people with the guns how to use them correctly and safely

facepalm.jpg how would making it easier decrease usage. also if it aint legal the taboo wears off, people start using rec and then things get crazy. if you mean cannabis, its not as bad as heavy drugs like coke, heroine ldo

yea i got bored reading and multiquoting and forgot half of my witty repsonses but i once again have to say AE is winning thread atm

also when i think of americans and their guns i cant help but think of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpLd0WQKCY

and the "how would you like it if the king of england came in here now" statement

You should post this in the micros imo. Wookie like. YOu make big points.

88.5% of all statistics are made up on the spot i heard

I chuckle at the thoughts of the fool ever being considered relevant in any possible situation

You're right and all the problems wouldn't go away overnight - but the criminality would disappear overnight. The criminality of drugs is one of the most harmful aspects. It tears families apart and deems people unemployable if they get caught. Plus the money wasted on futile policing could be directed to addiction services.

That's would be manslaughter imo. The dodgy E thing is really rare in spite of its illegality. With people opening drug shops they'd at least have a reputation to uphold and there would be little market for illegal drugs. As above you don't really get illegal alcohol sales for that very reason.


Yep, but if we remove the criminality of it and divert resources used to try to stop illegal drugs to addiction and child services the harm would probably be reduced hugely.

Can you write scripts tho ???

Aren't pharmacists just bag men for the doctors ???

I assume you would want the drugs to be sold through a pharmacy and not just be freely available at your local convenience store?

How about prescription drugs? should they be freely available? antibiotics?

no I can't and I will readily admit the pharmacy service in the US is absolutely inadequate. I haven't had the pleasure of dealing with the UK system yet.

In my own private fantasy world pharmacist would write the prescriptions though. We know more about the pharmaceuticals so once the doctors have made the diagnosis the pharmacist should make the prescription. That's never going to happen though.

Also, I have never worked in a pharmacy I went the research way instead.

Nope. Why not just have them in drug shops like off licences? If you put them in a pharmacy and start over-regulating it you drive the cost up and invite a black market straight back with all the associated violence and criminality.

I don't see how there would be a market for non psychoactive prescription drugs. Of course the drug shops would have benzos and the drug companies would be only too happy to produce them.

In fact the drug companies would probably become the producers and refiners of fun drugs. Again, reputations would have to upheld which would lead to greater safety.

NUKE THREAD ONE TIME PLS DEALER

make poverty history cheaper drugs for everyone

i dont see how making coke or heroine legal would stop it being a problem. they are a problem because they are highly addictive substances which causes addictions. Making them readily available would increase that.

How is saying, hey everyone, its fine to take these now, its legal, you'll get in no trouble. I would say alot of people stay away from drugs because its a taboo, you dont want to be viewed as a druggie etc, take away part of the taboo leads to more use.

More use equals more addicts. imo its a dumb arguement. I can see an arguement for canabis as its basically just smoking. but class a drugs, like seriously.

So no professional staff to look after people? To advice on the effects on mixing whatever drug with a prescription drug?

How would you decide between drugs to be sold at a pharmacy and drugs to be sold in your drug store? Surely the drug store would be interested in selling prescription drugs. And there will be a market for a bunch of other stuff, not just analgesic and psycho stimulants. What do you think happens when the doctor wont prescribe antibiotics against that pneumonia for the 2 year old kid? There is plenty of stupid people who would never understand that it may be viral and not bacterial. They would happily purchase antibiotics at your store. The doctors are losing their authority. If stupid people read stuff on the internet they believe it. Then they would want to buy whatever they think they need.

Also, I don't see why the pharmacy prices would be higher than the drug stores.

Of course in a legal market the drugs will be produced by pharmaceutical companies and they would be good and clean. I don't dispute that.

drugs are bad mkay


That is about the only valid reason.

what, thread is getting interesting IMO

EXACTLY

Lol they don't thave that at the minute so why would they need it if it was legalised? You could have information leaflets.

Why? I doubt there's a big market for blood pressure tablets or anti-biotics. Everything psychoactive should be available in a shop imo. If the doctors want some medicines accesible only by prescription then fine. Hands off the fun drugs though.

Stupid parents are stupid. Keep certain medicines under control I guess.

You will always get stupid people - but should responsible people be punished because of them? I'm asthmatic. I manage it fairly well and yet I still have to go to a doctor to get a prescription for medication? Why? I'm paying him for his f#*king autograph! I find it patronizing and extortionate tbh.

Fair enough - but I doubt that pharmacies would want the business tbh.

Help the English-as-second-language-guy out here. In the SoFlo accent you have taking to lately you "nuke" threads when they become interesting?

This "nuking" I assume is not the textbok definition as given by the Oxford dictionary nor the slang definition one could assume being used amongst the young hip guys in America.

So enlighten me, what is the new meaning of "nuke"?

LEAVE MY SISTER OUT OF THIS FFS

Makes sense, (even though I know next to nothing about medicine). When I was a kid, my mum would would often ask the pharmacist about minor medical that may not be worth bothering the doctor about. That was OK when Mr W. the pharmacist was older than she was. She was also OK with it when my sister dated Andy W. the pharmacists son for a year or so in high school. But when Andy W. got his degree and took over the family business she found it weird and maybe wasn't so comfortable raising potentially embarrassing things with the pharmacist she remembered as a kid.

It just seems crazy that retail pharmacists are highly educated, yet what they do in this day and age (where Mr W. the local pharmacist is a rarity) is essentially pill counting. (And I know you're research not retail, but you started my train of thought by your "I'm allowed to deal drugs" comment)

I think the serious tones, lack of boobs, and decentering effect are disturbing Tbun.