Actually, being male is the largest risk factor, other than if you're morbidly obese (BMI>40). It's one of the great untold truths of the pandemic.

Of course, you're probably right about diet and exercise reducing risk factor, maybe even more than the vaccine. However, it took me 4 mins to get my second jab, in and out. By comparison, to lose 20kg you would need to do over 500 hours of moderate exercise (burning ~300 calories an hour).

It's pretty clear which is the one GPs should emphasise from a public health perspective.

Haven't done the math but it's pretty clear that beng an obese person protects you from covid

It's being old that is by far the biggest risk factor. I understand it as a life aspiration but let's not sugar coat it.

Being old is a risk factor for everything.

Fair enough but I think you are misconstruing that doctor's point. He is not saying don't go to the gym, don't try to be healthier. He is saying simply going to the gym and eating right does not prevent you from getting Covid in the way a vaccine does. He is not wrong about that. Yes most young healthy people will be fine but what if a new variant impacts young people worse than current strains, and they end up hospitalized or dying in large numbers? They will wish they had gotten vaccinated (in addition to working out and eating healthy btw - it's not an either/or).

He is really just trying to tell younger people that they are not impervious to Covid by virtue of their age. And they can also spread it to others.

Besides which, lol at the advice to stop being obese and become healthy, like it's flipping a switch. Most unhealthy or fat people stay that way forever. Whereas anyone, obese or not, can get a shot in 5 minutes and boom, protected from Covid.

The point I was trying to make was that he was deliberately using language that would scare people into taking the vaccine. People that are currently at low risk from covid.

The "anti-vaccine nonsense" as he puts it isn't nonsense. There are very real concerns with vaccine safety and a healthy young person should weigh that up along with the risk from covid. The risk to a young healthy non-obese person from covid is close to zero at this point. If a new variant appears that changes the risk factor to young people then they need to re-evaluate. However the delta variant doesn't appear to be any more deadly than previous strains, yet he is portraying it as some scary new super strain that is going to decimate young people. That is simply not true.

Not vaccinating increases the risk of a deadly strain appearing that kills the young. I would be shocked if the risk of the vaccine was higher than the risk of a deadly strain appearing and creating death amongst young.

Worldwide infections are increasing again and worldwide deaths are stagnating.
Peak infections were at 830.000/day, now at 380.000.
Peak death was at 14.800/day, now at 7.600.

Do you guys think we'll see numbers increase massively again? Lets say like 600.000 infections a day and 10.000 deaths a day?

I think infections is a likely yes to move up to 600.000 again and deaths will increase a bit, but not to 10.000.

It's interesting to see there's countries that are now having their first real wave (Malaysia, Afghanistan, Zambia, Thailand, Namibia, Cambodia are a few I've noticed).

Can we just take a second to acknowledge the fact that Ontario (a province of 14 million people) recorded a measly 200 "cases" today. Ontario is also one of the most vaccinated places on the planet (80% of adults w/ first dose, 45% w/ second dose).

Indoor dining and gyms, cinemas still banned. And many restrictions on the things that are open.

Ontario is truly cucked (name a more cucked place other than ontario and australia, go ahead I dare you, I also admit 100% to being a fool that chooses to live here.

That's completely untrue.

Such an interesting take here.

Ontario is widely panned as being one of Canada's worst Provinces in terms of handling early covid, along with Quebec.

What has saved them and turned things around such that you brag about here stating they "recorded a measly 200 "cases" today is BECAUSE of the harsh shut down measures and one of the best vaccine pushes and rollouts, Canada wise.

Pretty routine take for this thread. All that stuff opens again in a couple weeks, so in the meantime he can get himself a crying towel as he waits and he can post some additional whines here. The whinier the better as that will fit in with the wannabe medical experts and end of world is nigh crowd, and hopefully they all will make this a more amusing thread to read for entertainment value moving forward!

If you want entertainment there's a similar thread in OOT that provides that. You've got posters there refusing to take their 3 year old to a birthday because the kid isn't vaccinated. Plenty of unintentional comedy in that thread.

Thanks for the suggestion, but this one is solid in that regard, and I never place actual value on things people like you say, rather I just offer thanks for a suggestion to be polite. I posted a lot in the riggie thread for online poker for amusement value (what this site is technically actually about), but the online poker industry is mature and the ways to whine about new player boomswitches on an outdated forum structure has long since passed. Simply put, you guys are more fun as riggies. Threads like this are the ones where I can be easily amused by those that genuinely spend hundreds or thousands of hours yelling at the clouds in an obscure forum without changing a single mind in the process, not that that is a need for those doing the yelling.

My suggestion to you and others like you is do not hold back - use this opportunity to scream as much crazy as you can that you genuinely believe, because you can know doing so (while it never changes anything) that it does genuinely entertain others in the process. You, and others here, serve a role, so enjoy it! In that regard - tell me what you think about masks or something. Thanks!

All the best.

Lol

Aren't you that clown who tried the same condescending troll routine in this thread a while back and got his lunch handed to him? If I recall you stormed off in a huff promising not to look back in here till December or something. Well, it's not December yet.

Masks are great by the way. You should wear one at all times.

No, but if believing that makes you happier then that is fine with me.

True, it is not December, but you guys are a good source of amusement and I thought it was fair to let you know that. As a performance artist you should want feedback like that! In December we will see which of you guys are still here, so fair enough on that suggestion.


Cool, thanks for the feedback, but you will not fit in here with the alarmists if you genuinely say things like that, so whenever you have the courage to actually be honest with your opinions just let us know. Also, feel free to tell us if you are getting the Pfizer, Moderna, Asta or Delta form of vaccination. Thanks!

All the best.

Good leadership has been a key to turning around the US Covid handling and it has come with some great benefits to the economy Trump screwed up.

Is everyone here happy that Biden is fixing all the problems with the Trump economy?




Trump Ranks 41st Of 44 Presidents In Survey Of Historians As Obama Cracks Top 10

Here we go. The vaccine nazis are ramping up the pressure.





https://www.rt.com/news/528197-franc...id-considered/

Australia has always sucked throughout this whole thing. Everything they do is ridiculous

They aren't 90 anywhere near as often. And many aint spreading anything

No Jab No pay has been around for years in Australia. this isn't some Nazi, Covid conspiracy.

Doesn't surprise me at all.

However just because they have been doing it for years doesn't make it acceptable. It's an appalling infringement of the basic human right to not be forced or coerced into accepting medical treatment against ones will.

Its funny people trying to call Australia communist.

They have a lower life expectancy


sure but the old people are heavily skewed towards thin people because they live longer.

Although I'd rate irresponsible/stupid people as the most dangerous by far. Not only are they more likely to spread if they are infected but they are more likely to get infected in the first place.

It's worth noting that the Peru average age for that world-beating death rate is a mere 31 years.

You imagine a lot of things don't you

My rule of thumb is take whatever shuffle says and scale it back a good 75%

@Tooth,

Have you looked into the literature on Ivermectin at all?