Doesn't it fit our government's MO though to just create a mess and then hope the void is filled with something more beneficial?

Dude this is the U.S we are talking about... They sentence some people to like 300 years in prison(NO JOKE) They really do need to work on that but it's the U.S Gov so they must be right.

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B&M lobbyist money was money spent towards setting up more operations/favorable tax rates for their land based business in various states, while less than 10% was spent towards eliminating online gaming.

The percentages now have the opening to even out now that a) their competition is gone, b) gov't is strapped for cash, and c) players are demanding an avenue to play. This grass-roots enthusiasm can be used by big B&Ms to string along their online gaming venture interests.

WSOP MAY lose money in the short run with those who can't access their rolls/stakers to play in the events. But in the long run, huge fist pump for big gov't/big business.

Since the .com sites have been returned / switched on and the Sites said they are/will pay players...

... Has anyone in the USA actually got payment from Stars or FT since Tuesday April 19?

... If so what method? Check, e-Wallet ($Bookers, Netteller - this would be in EU, etc?) Courier Pigeon?

For all the posting you've done in these threads i'm amazed you haven't picked up on a few things yet... if i were you i'd read this thread.

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...hread-1021535/

Thanks I happen to know about Canada and what's going on here Thanks, Really Go Muck urself...

I was asking the question to get FIELD DATA from mostly US Players since Tuesday April 19

Given the announcements & in the last few pages of this thread there are no reported successful US payouts.

US is truly vicious in criminal justice. Look at incarceration rates on Wikipedia. At any one time 1 in 70 adult males are in Jail. US has 4% of worlds population and 22% of prisoners.

Land of the Free is a f!!cking joke.

It's not the only Country with harsh Laws & hard core Incarceration...

... In the EU, Spain & Italy are notorious for Pre-Trial Detention & Human Rights / Due Process Violations,

... In Latin America due Process & Human Rights Violations are a Joke,

... Than theres the Communists, Russia, North Korea & China, wholesale Genocide & Labor Camps Comrade,

... In Canada several high profile wrongful Life convictions, recently thrown out & those people freed after 20+ yrs,

... The New Zeitgeist Movie Documentary www.zeitgeistmovie.com is a good summary of the US System...

In this Case Money Laundering is not a charge that seems beatable given the Evidence of Criminal Wrong doing.

Antigua stance on the latest USA online poker actions:

http://www.caribbean360.com/index.ph...#axzz1KBAIXHIp

Seriously we should all move to the middle east or Libya where people are free to kill each other and commit any crime they want and don't have to go to this bull**** "jail" you mentioned!

there are more places on this planet than USA and middle east, but our typical US-citizen doesnt know that.

God i am so happy i dont have to live in the USA, i can understand everybody who is running amok.

I feel like watching the TV show deadwood puts much of what goes on in the world in the proper context. What you learn in skool ain't the truth. **** suckers

But what you learn on HBO is? lol

eh, its a helluva lot closer. for instance, in relation to this thread, the government has its motives.

And I'm glad you don't live here. Funny how things work out.

Love the sarcasm. I did lol.

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Umm, Stars itself says it will take a few weeks to get the process in place. Please read their FAQ.

http://www.pokerstars.com/usaplayers/faq/

I was asking directly from (mostly US) players if they have got electronic or paper Cash Outs prior & since 19th.

... If there are any EU or other Countries Players that have got paid since the 19th please keep telling us.

... Of course the Sites' will have FAQ's & Statements...

... I don't take what they say as Gospel Truth I am more interested in their Actions, actually paying not talking.


... All Cash Outs Will Be Reported to other Feds (IRS etc)...

Read Prof. Nelson Rose...many Great Legal view points & Consequences...

... http://www.gamblingandthelaw.com/art...o-the-irs.html

While this was written about Land based Casino's in this Specific Case applies to Stars & FT a DEAL with the FEDS.

... Means REPORTING on US (probably ALL) PLAYERS, YES YOU & your $2.50, for Pro's with Millions...?

... It's not so much if u have something to hide (not doing ur Taxes) but getting assessed more $$ going back years.

In after the PPA sends me an email taking credit for getting access to player funds

Actual April 19th settlement Agreement Stars, FT's is identical...

... Stars Legal Agreement with DOJ...

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...thkey=COee7ZoG

Yea sure lol

Was Alfonse playing Micros' or Freerolls? "proud to play", with what?

takes a special kind of person to live in America. Don't expect everyone to stop their cars and let you cross the street.

In America it's all about making money, if you don't agree then GTFO of the way.