As if there is ANY difference between big government liberals like Obama and big government conservatives like Bush. They both just want to take away your rights, just different ones and for different reasons. Small constitutionally constrained government is the ONLY solution to end the power of these corrupt authoritarians.

Full name and online name?? His voice sounds so famiiar

Jason Koon

novasky online

Yes like illegal immigration laws. I guess stopping people playing cards in their own home is more important than stopping Mexico from reconquering a few states.

Looks like there was a federal informant within PS/FT after all. These poker corporations are stupid, they should never hire someone with a criminal background.

US players: Your money is gone.

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they did this whole thing just to screw me out of my 'Take 2' $25 bonus

Was on all last night, didn't turn off the comp. Still on today and playing real money games (US-PA). LOL I should probably log off and just be in the same boat as everyone else. But the CAP games are soo soft and I'm up. Doubtful I'll see this money anytime soon, but it is what it is.

Lots of government hate ITT, I guess understandably given the poor regulatory situation, UIGEA etc. But surely there should be some hate for PS/FT for shady shell company money laundering that put their customers in this situation?

If I was American, I'd be seriously let down by my government.

Stay on to try and be the Last American Standing.

Does this idea have no legs whatsoever then? I would have thought there would be a small army of people out there in Europe that could sell an account to a USA player?

Of course complications exist, but with a little imagination, maybe a moneybookers account of mine thrown in, new p.c for different i.d, some tech know how surrounding IP addresses etc etc I'm sure it could be a good workaround?

I thought maybe dongle's could be posted back and forth or moneybooker account could be gifted with deal which you fund directly yourself through your bank, which I could verify or whatever.

Could this be a workable solution? What are legal implications for both parties?

So how many millions in overlay is the SCOOP going to bring in this year?

Nothing like a bit of casual doom-mongering to incite panic

omg for the last 60 pages this thread has been going round in ****ing circles.

I would tend to doubt that. The Isle of Mann, PokerStars, has pretty strict regs for the online player accounts. They have to fenced separately from corporate funds. I doubt the PS could get IOM licensing if they were violating this.

I've got about 25K on PS and am going to wait and see. The last thing that I want is for my funds to held up by one fo the payment processors. Also, I might look into playing on a smaller site like PokerNordica or something in a week or two.

I'd honestly be shocked if internet poker would even make the top 10,000 list of Obama's priorities with regards to re-election.

I do wonder what'd you expect it to do for you anyways

Never log off, Never Surrender.

Sentence structure, you're good at it.

I forgot an "you" you're right, sentence structure, is fine :P

Edit my god typos all over the place

You guys are missing a HUGE part of this......

I think it's more than just a scoop of the cash. I read the Federal indictment last night, and I will quote a part that really stood out:

"The defendants shall forfeit to the United States....All the defendants' rights, title, and interests in the following entities and businesses:

1. Pokerstars,
2. Full Tilt Poker,
3. Absolute Poker,
4. Ultimate Bet,
5. Oldford Group ltd.,
6. Rational Entertainment enterprises ltd.,
7. Pyr software ltd.,
8. Stelekram ltd.,
9. Sphene International ltd.,
10. Tiltware ltd., "

And it lists another dozen companies, too.

Now, I am not an attorney, but this clearly sounds like The Federal Government is attempting to seize the ENTIRE POKER COMPANIES and their software, and not just the $3 billion in cash.

I think this part of the indictment is being overlooked.

What say you guys?

This must be a joke? Those sites are so well established!

/Facepalm...

@ Allways rivers me: Was that contained in the press release or just the actual indictment?