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02-05-2020 , 09:47 PM
Obey the law;

They outed you as a possible scammer for 200.00. You outed yourself as a complete ****ing moron for free? Which do you think will do more harm to your career?
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02-06-2020 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SteakOnTrent
I disagree.

These people aren't in the business of doxing people as a form of public service.
How do you know that? I mean, we have an entire forum dedicated to exactly that purpose.

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They're doing it solely to shame people into paying them money.
That sounds like a great idea. It also isn't blackmail.

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"We won't remove your personal information until $x is paid to us" is clearly blackmail.
I don't know the precise legal definition, but I could see this being viewed as blackmail. However, I'm not aware of that being posted anywhere on the site. And given that OP can't even get a response from the site, maybe you're incorrect about their intention.

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Originally Posted by SteakOnTrent
There are legal channels a backer can go down to pursue genuine debts. I wonder why that almost never happens.
Because it's difficult to do successfully, or more costly than it's worth.

I assume you were making some point with this, but I'm not sure what that is.
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02-06-2020 , 01:41 AM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
If there are several candidates for the job and you google their names you don't hire the one who appears to be a degen and a scammer.
Not to mention, he is

"a poker player, a poker player, ... you're trash"

-----Joan Rivers to Annie Duke

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rYJXikgZzU
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02-06-2020 , 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by obeythelaw
I never understood why i didnt get a single job where i crushed interviews, and had much better competence than others. But now it makes sense, i am apparently known as scammer for all these years my identity, my ID, my adress, my phone number, my picture is online calling me scammer, calling me thief, I had no idea about that...
That feeble website is most certainly not reason you're not getting job offers. 100% guaranteed.

Most likely it's because you simply do not interview very well.

And I'm skeptical that you have "much better competence" than all other candidates. Your written communication skills are poor.
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02-06-2020 , 11:57 AM
Stop with the shaming and the blaming.

Yeah he might have made a mistake.

200 might seem like a lot, but if you put it in comparison to buyins,

which he said is 2 BUYINS plus the serious health problems and possibly a complicated relationship with the backer, that could have been meant next to nothing to him at the time and state.

Spins are super high variance, and going up and down a few 100 buyinns is pretty standard, also as an ex spin player I can tell you that these games will have a mental toll on you. THey are very exausting, imagine 300 final tables with 3 players every day.
thats how much insanity it is.
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02-06-2020 , 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
THey are very exausting,.
Early 2020 and this might end up being the most idiotic comment of the year.
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02-06-2020 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
Stop with the shaming and the blaming.

Yeah he might have made a mistake.

200 might seem like a lot, but if you put it in comparison to buyins,

which he said is 2 BUYINS plus the serious health problems and possibly a complicated relationship with the backer, that could have been meant next to nothing to him at the time and state.

Spins are super high variance, and going up and down a few 100 buyinns is pretty standard, also as an ex spin player I can tell you that these games will have a mental toll on you. THey are very exausting, imagine 300 final tables with 3 players every day.
thats how much insanity it is.


so did the backer force him to play spins somehow? or did they mutually agree that the horse plays spins, the backer provides funds to play the games and profits would be shared? really how hard is it to understand that it absolutely irrelevant how hard/tough or mentally draining a job is, you are not allowed to steal money. that applies to every job and i think its funny that some people seem to make differences between poker players and other jobs. like if op wasnt a pokerplayer but a cashier at walmart would you also think it would be ok to steal 200$ from the cash register?
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02-06-2020 , 12:14 PM
could you explain?

have u ever tried to play 300-400 spins a day?
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02-06-2020 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by daviid
so did the backer force him to play spins somehow? or did they mutually agree that the horse plays spins, the backer provides funds to play the games and profits would be shared? really how hard is it to understand that it absolutely irrelevant how hard/tough or mentally draining a job is, you are not allowed to steal money. that applies to every job and i think its funny that some people seem to make differences between poker players and other jobs. like if op wasnt a pokerplayer but a cashier at walmart would you also think it would be ok to steal 200$ from the cash register?
if the horse ends up dead, breaks down on the racetrack, you call it a thief?

try playing lets say 400 spins at 100 stakes, not comparable to a cashier job at walmart imo. not even close.

its 40k on the line compared to earning (cruising with no stress at the cashier)
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02-06-2020 , 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
if the horse ends up dead, breaks down on the racetrack, you call it a thief?

try playing lets say 400 spins at 100 stakes, not comparable to a cashier joy at walmart imo-


dont get the first „analogy“ in case it is one.

as for the seconf point, if those jobs aren’t comparable (which i doubt), you assume that the more complicated and mentally draining a job is the more likely it is that stealing should be approved by the employer?
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02-06-2020 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by daviid
dont get the first „analogy“ in case it is one.

as for the seconf point, if those jobs aren’t comparable (which i doubt), you assume that the more complicated and mentally draining a job is the more likely it is that stealing should be approved by the employer?
I wanna tell you that spins at these stakes can be a living hell.
You can be the best player and run so bad that you wanna kill yourself.
also at these stakes there are highly skilled players, as well as a few bad players, but for the most you will compete with a few very good regulars over and over again, some whales, some fish.

Compared to the stakes he was playing 200 is nothing, thats what I wanted to say. And given his menatal state and medical condition he surely had other more important problems.
He might have not seen it as stealing.

I only have read the first and last page of the thread.

Last edited by washoe; 02-06-2020 at 12:45 PM.
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02-06-2020 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by obeythelaw
Yeah sick scam, cashout 200dollars while being srsly iil and need money for food makes me an awful person, no way to change that, esp since after that i went one flight over the cuckoos nest.

I study law now, that is why i choose that username, fyi strictly legal speaking i was the one scammed with my ID sharing...

That being said, what I did was wrong.
this
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02-06-2020 , 12:56 PM
Of course he saw it as stealing but very few people are capable of maintaining pure morals in stressful situations. Like if a homeless person found $100 on the street, how many are going to report it to the police inhopes the rightful owner presents him/herself?
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02-06-2020 , 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
could you explain?

have u ever tried to play 300-400 spins a day?

Just like the Amazon warehouse workers, no one is forcing them to do it. They did it and continue to do it on their own free will because it's not bad enough for them to change.
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02-06-2020 , 04:45 PM
Who is it that you owe the money to? Name of stable would be helpful so that you can resolve it, I'm sure someone knows them in here or how to get a hold of someone.
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02-06-2020 , 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by KossuKukkula
Early 2020 and this might end up being the most idiotic comment of the year.
It may not even crack Washoe's top ten.
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02-06-2020 , 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
It may not even crack Washoe's top ten.
congrats on bullying a guy with mental health issues. real classy. you and your folks must be very proud of you.
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02-06-2020 , 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
Stop with the shaming and the blaming.

Yeah he might have made a mistake.

200 might seem like a lot, but if you put it in comparison to buyins,

which he said is 2 BUYINS plus the serious health problems and possibly a complicated relationship with the backer, that could have been meant next to nothing to him at the time and state.

Spins are super high variance, and going up and down a few 100 buyinns is pretty standard, also as an ex spin player I can tell you that these games will have a mental toll on you. THey are very exausting, imagine 300 final tables with 3 players every day.
thats how much insanity it is.
Well we don’t know what he stole he said it was 200$ he stole , but we are also trusting a known scammer.

Also find it hard to believe that he can’t find the stalker now to repay him
Lots of excuses though
Still a mystery who he scammed
If he claims 200$ ruined his life why didn’t he borrow 200$ so he could end this instead of just stealing and disappearing ???

You think after he went deep into make up probably losing thousands of dollars the backer wanted to go this route ? Cmon man
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02-06-2020 , 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
congrats on bullying a guy with mental health issues. real classy. you and your folks must be very proud of you.
You just called me an idiot in the other thread, now you are crying wolf? Lmao....
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02-06-2020 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Eskaborr
You just called me an idiot in the other thread, now you are crying wolf? Lmao....
I meant the other guy who landed in a hospital, dont bully him.
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02-06-2020 , 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by washoe
congrats on bullying a guy with mental health issues. real classy. you and your folks must be very proud of you.
Be the hero you want to be, in your mind, and send him $200 so he can pay off his debt. You may also want to learn to not take at face value what people who steal say when they make excuses for their actions, even if it allows you to becomes an internet champion of the persecuted.

All the best.

Last edited by Monteroy; 02-06-2020 at 09:26 PM. Reason: Just send him $100 if you want to be a 50% hero...
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02-06-2020 , 09:32 PM
I think he was being totally honest with you and wants to make up for it.
Whatever the scenario with the backer was, I dont know. But if I am reading correctly between the lines there was some kind of argument.

OP might have felt he was entitled to a few dollars being in the makeup so much, taking all the risk. He might have made the backer some money first and then went on a downswing. We dont know the exact scenario. Anyways from what I read I have sympathy for the guy, I know how terrible it can be to be stuck with your backer, and getting ill because of that. He might have taken all the risk, who knows what kind of deal they had?
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02-06-2020 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Monteroy
Be the hero you want to be, in your mind, and send him $200 so he can pay off his debt. You may also want to learn to not take at face value what people who steal say when they make excuses for their actions, even if it allows you to becomes an internet champion of the persecuted.

All the best.
Lol. I don't think money is the issue here and he doesn't need my money as he is a lawyer.

Backing deals can get very nasty when you are stuck.
And I don't think they were getting along very well.
Maybe it's even the backer who was treating him poorly and had no empathy for him getting ill and all he wanted is his money back. Anyways 200 dept is nothing at these stakes. He must have owed a whole lot more and made up for it imo.
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02-07-2020 , 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
congrats on bullying a guy with mental health issues. real classy. you and your folks must be very proud of you.
I thought you just had reading comprehension and spellcheck issues!
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02-07-2020 , 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by washoe
I only have read the first and last page of the thread.
Wait, what?

Um, maybe you should try reading the rest of the thread before coming in here to tell everyone what's going on. Because this most recent post seems to indicate you don't have a clue:

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Originally Posted by washoe
Lol. I don't think money is the issue here and he doesn't need my money as he is a lawyer.

Backing deals can get very nasty when you are stuck.
And I don't think they were getting along very well.
Maybe it's even the backer who was treating him poorly and had no empathy for him getting ill and all he wanted is his money back. Anyways 200 dept is nothing at these stakes. He must have owed a whole lot more and made up for it imo.
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