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05-12-2011 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by BarrySanders
What I want to know is what does MarcoAntonio have to say about all this?!
last time he was here he was offering to fight Robl in a cage match. Marco confirmed dead from a Robl beating?


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Originally Posted by MarcoAntonio
Mr Robl, greetings.

I should be most delighted to take you up on your challenge. I am but slight in build and four-and-ten years of age (recent photograph of me below indulging in a spot of cricket, as we Portugese youngsters are apt to do), but by golly do I enjoy a good old fashioned bout of fisticuffs!

Mother would be ever so distraught were she to hear of this; she is perpetually worried about my weak heart, oftentimes escorting me to the physician upwards of thrice weekly. Damn and blast that infernal busybody! When will she accept that I am now of age to assume responsbility for my actions? If my heart should expire in the throes of battle with your good self, well then so be it.

I await your reply, and look forward tremendously to pounding upon your cheeks with my fierce, dainty knuckles.

Good day,


Marco Antonio

05-12-2011 , 12:28 PM
i'm still behind girah, he made a mistake but it wasn't sorel mizzi style.

Long live the Portuguese Poker Prodigy

oh and u can coach me if you want ;-)
05-12-2011 , 12:38 PM
It's funny how he was very active itt until he was outed as a mediocre cheating pokerplayer. Now that he can't lie himself out of this mess he just stopped posting. Oh well, it's obvious that the Portuguese Prodigy is a plain simple cheater.
05-12-2011 , 12:39 PM
I don't know what you define as active but he sure wasn't an usual poster here.

Kind of like to hear from him soon, though
05-12-2011 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by EasyMoney92
They only outed it, because of the conspiracy thread and the arousal of suspicion surrounding Jose's challenge victory. At least that's the conspiracy. lol
Sometimes I get the feeling that despite the fact that many of the detectives here on 2+2 have done great work in uncovering shadiness, I think we may overestimate our pull with the poker world.

I have a hard time believing that Lock would out a pro for cheating just because skeptical 2+2ers either dont believe he exists and/or are amazed that someone could go on a huge heater at the end of a month.

If any other player wins a bunch HU the last week of the challenge and wins no one really says anything. But the fact that it was Girah mean thats it cant be possible!

Which leads to another point about people thinking that someone won the challenge for him. You are also assuming that he asked whoever he asks was SO GOOD that he knew he could just come in and crush, which is probably more unlikely than any random person (girah or otherwise) just going on a huge heater

Like I said, I dont know anything first hand. I dont know how good he is and I dont know him personally, but I feel people inability to believe that he could win that much in a few days arent seeing this from the right perspective. Maybe hes great, maybe hes not, but he IS capable of making that kind of score just like we all are regardless of skill. Obviously, now that he is in the open only time will tell just how good he is and as such I wish him the best.
05-12-2011 , 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by tommyzero
I have a hard time believing that Lock would out a pro for cheating just because skeptical 2+2ers either dont believe he exists and/or are amazed that someone could go on a huge heater at the end of a month.
They were advertising their site on 2p2 at the top. If there was questions raised about shadiness going on they had to address them so people from 2p2 would be happy to play on their site. So they obviously do care what 2p2 people think.
05-12-2011 , 06:40 PM
anyone wanna do some very fast cliffnotes what happened? how did he cheat?
05-12-2011 , 09:08 PM
tomorrow he will be on quadjacks live.

later they will have a play money tourney that girah will play and he will be giving a bounty on him. 30 minutes of private coaching.

sry guys, couldn`t resist...
05-13-2011 , 01:05 AM
http://www.girahpoker.com/blog/on_ge...uff_challenge1

Did Girah write this, or did someone write it for him?
Wasn't that the original catch made in this whole story? Didn't someone write his initial story for him?

I do not what to think about this whole PPP story now. Disappointed.
05-13-2011 , 07:44 AM
OK, I’ve way too much time on my hands, so I’ll have a go at Cliffs:

#1: José "Girah" Macedo comes out as the so-called "Portuguese Poker Prodigy" – posts his story and PT3 stats showing him up $1.6 million at 9 bb/100

Skeptics shout “Level” because:
  • His English is way too good
  • Europeans don’t dream about houses in Hawaii
  • People in Portugal don’t take GCSE exams
* blitz of posts dissecting OP’s English ability *
#184 DOG IS HEAD: "José wanted to write his story on 2p2, but he asked me if I could help him to write it since he was a big fan of my writing."

#191 Gazillion: "In before all the people who were spouting 'obvious level is obvious' mysteriously stop posting."

#193 Jungleman: "TRIPLE P is REAL, and hes MAD... you wouldn't like him when he's angry"
Skeptics continue to post "you guys actually believe this? lol what a bunch of donks...........", "haha laughing so hard at the ‘nice read’ guys ITT, kinda obv level imo"
#406 clowntable volunteers to check the bit about Sporting de Portugal with someone who works there.

#491 clowntable: "Ok so I called and it was confirmed that José Macedo played for Sporting."
"Obvious level is obvious/His English is way too good" posts continue.
#538 BreakYaNeck and #574 imfromsweden are willing to bet 5-6 figures that all this is true.... skeptics willing to take bet disappear from thread.
José “Girah” Macedo interviews:

http://pokerpt.com/noticias/1-jogado...interview.html

http://www.pokergob.com/jose-macedo-...-prodigy-real/

http://www.pokerstatic.com/hot-seat/...-girah-macedo/
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Originally Posted by Gazillion
Awesome and vindicating interview José. You come off super well, and hopefully this will finally make all the nay-sayers stfu.
* Gazillion is wrong. Nay-sayers do not stfu. *


José becomes sponsored pro at Lockpoker: http://www.lockpoker.com/pro/

#1001 nikinblinds opens a new line of hate suggesting that José isn’t very good or he's letting someone else play on the account.

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Originally Posted by enigma121
fml knew i was right...lot of things didnt add up and now people are seeing it,just read my previous posts on this thread and any reg wud agree wit me,pity there are so many believers that just dont ave a clue,unless u play online poker plz stfu nd dont post sayin this is an amazing read,its purely fiction
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Originally Posted by girah
To all of you who feel this way, I welcome you to come find me at the NLHU tables at Lock at from 10/20NL to 200/400NL and PLOHU from 10/20PLO to 100/200PLO and we can play some. Also, if you'd like to organize or schedule a match feel free to contact me through here or on my site.
* Lock Poker disqualifies Jose Girah Macedo from Bluff Pro Challenge for multi-accounting *

#1050
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Originally Posted by girah
Audit revealed that a computer at a second location logged in and played on Girah’s account
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Although José won enough money from his own IP to have legitimately won the challenge, the unfortunate fact remains that breaking the rules is strictly disallowed.
José posts PT3 screenshots and claims his backer played 1299 hands of PLO without José's permission.
* Multiple “douchebag/cheater” posts *
#1075:
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Originally Posted by iamkafka
Hello,

My SN at LockPoker is Sweeeeeeet (I finished 3rd in the challange). I think that some of you are being way too hard on José. He's a young kid that made a mistake and apologized for it. I don't think he stole, hurt or took advantage of anyone in the way, so I think we should all chillout and give him a 2nd chance.
#1106:
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Originally Posted by BluffDetective
kid's a lying scumbag, no reason to have respect for him
#1114:
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Originally Posted by ok?
There is absolutely no way that this guy is Spanish. His English is way too good.
#1141:
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Originally Posted by donkeykong2
the real issue was probably chip dumping here to win the challenge. that backer story seems pretty unlikely.
#1143: Girah answers additional questions and post screenshot of his top winners to address chip dumping claim:



Skeptics continue to hate and name-call. Girah doesn’t come back for more.

And as that was quite long:
Cliff on Cliffs

José "Girah" Macedo is PPP – the "Portuguese Poker Prodigy"

NVG don’t believe his English can be that good [it is].NVG don’t believe he wants to buy a house in Hawaii [he does].
NVG don’t believe regs who confirm this is true [but NVG won’t accept bets offered by the regs].

José then gives interview in English and Portuguese

José is signed by LockPoker.

NVG don’t believe Girah is José because whoever is playing on that account isn’t very good.

José/Girah wins the Bluff Pro Challenge but is disqualified for multi-accounting.

Lockpoker says José won enough money from his own IP to have legitimately won the challenge, José says the 1,299 hands of PLO were played by his backer without José’s permission – but José accepts the rules were broken.

NVG accuse José of winning through chip dumping.

José posts screenshot of biggest donators.

NVG don’t believe his English can be that good and call him a cheat.
05-13-2011 , 08:16 AM
Nice post!

Don't forget about the ignorants that talk about how this is all crap and don't even know where Portugal is. Oh, and someone actually stated here that the average Portugal youngster doesn't know how to speak english.

I like this ignorant the best - he/she rocked.
05-13-2011 , 09:27 AM
Thanks for the recap!
05-13-2011 , 11:40 AM
@grumpy When you make cliffs you're supposed to be objective and don't suck up to the cheater.

You forgot to mention Lock's statement..

Lock is disappointed to announce that their new LockPRO ELITE team member, José "Girah" Macedo has been disqualified. Runner up Michael "bigguylegend22" Drummond, who earned over $90,000 in profit during the challenge, will take the prize. In audits of all participants accounts at the close of the competition, violations of BPC rules as well as the Merge Gaming network rules were discovered with Girah account including a computer at a second location logging in and playing on his account. Lock's philosophy is built on player relationship and trust; any violation of fairness by any player is taken very seriously.


So Lock Poker, his sponsor, said he did more than just multi accounting. How hard you want to believe he didn't cheat, the fact is that Lock discovered several violations of BPC rules and Jose has nor explained nor denied any of this. Fact is also that he has answered multiple questions before his disqualification but has remained silent on any of the allegations against him.

let's face it, he can't lie himself out of the mess he is in right now and he's just hoping that time will pass and ppl will forget. I for one won't let that happen.

José you have had the chance for weeks now to explain the other allegations against you but you haven't and that is enough for me to consider you a cheating scumbag. I hope Lock kicks you off the team and you retire at your beachmansion in Hawaii and stop playing poker. You have done more bad than good for online poker. You're just another cheat, just like many others we sadly had in the past. Prodigy my ass
05-13-2011 , 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by J.K.Wins
@grumpy When you make cliffs you're supposed to be objective
Agreed. There's more objectivity in UK tabloid articles about asylum seeking pit bulls than there is in that set of 'cliffs'.
05-13-2011 , 12:38 PM
@JKWins - I too would like to see a clear statement from Lock Pocker (backed up by the Merge Gaming network) to confirm or deny whether the conclusion of the audit was limited to 1299 hands of PLO.

Nevertheless, you cannot deny that this thread has been dominated by a constant to-and-fro between the skeptics and believers - and until somewhere around post 1040 and the disqualification everything Girah wrote proved to be correct.

But then that's just another reason why Lock Pocker should come out and either defend Girah or let him go. The skeptics will clearly never believe anything written by Girah, however hard he tries, so I don't see much point in him posting here again. While those of us who came out on Girah's side when we got tilted by the wannabe detectives looking for clues in his use of English would like to see a conclusion too.
05-13-2011 , 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RangeyMcTriplmerge
Agreed. There's more objectivity in UK tabloid articles about asylum seeking pit bulls than there is in that set of 'cliffs'.
Please feel free to come up with a skeptic version for balance.
05-13-2011 , 12:49 PM
Sigh, Jose I believe your story but it looks worse and worse when you don't post anymore in this thread.

Also, lol J.K Wins can you be any more of a hater? You should probably just go back to searching for Isildur on stars, jizzing every time he wins a pot and crying about how he owned but ran so bad every time he loses.
05-13-2011 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by RangeyMcTriplmerge
Agreed. There's more objectivity in UK tabloid articles about asylum seeking pit bulls than there is in that set of 'cliffs'.
They camp by the river and eat our swans you know.
05-13-2011 , 02:08 PM
Nice cliffs GrumpyB, spot on.
05-13-2011 , 02:36 PM
We need confirmation that the PLO hands played by his backer were the only reason he was DQ'd. Should be easy enough to do and it would clear up all of this speculation.
05-13-2011 , 05:59 PM
To add to the Notes- this was added BEFORE the disqualification of Girahh.

This is in regards to Jose "Girahh" Macedo winning the lock poker challenge.

According to Pokernewsboy.com (http://pokernewsboy.com/lock/bluff-pro- ... title/253/), Macedo has won the challenge earning over $104k during the month of April. I find this fascinating considering he was having a losing month according (to the article) with 2 days left. He had been largely playing no higher than 1k NL and as low as 400 NL. Then all of a sudden on the final day he goes on to play nosebleed stakes and wins enough money to be in first place.

For those that don't know nosebleed stakes seldom if ever run on the Merge network. So what a coincidence that he was able to find a game at those stakes, on the final day, and not only win but win enough money to get into the lead.

Furthermore, the person against whom the bulk of the money was won was playing under the alias "SamChauhan". If that is indeed Sam Chauhan of http://www.changingyou.com/, he is a mindset coach not a poker player. Never before have I heard of him playing online poker. Now he is playing against top opponents at nose bleed levels? What made him choose that particular day to all of a sudden start playing 20kNl? Another coincidence?

I believe Sam is from the US, so how did he manage to get so much money onto Merge in such a short period? A bank wire? After black friday? I had never seen him play there before and have not seen him since.

I happened to watch some of their match and it seemed that sam was playing very erratic and unconventional poker. Now I am not going to claim to even understand the thought process of high stakes players, but to me some of the hands that were played seemed very questionable.

Finally, my last coincidence involves a player named INEVERFOLDI. It is rumored that this player also lost quite a bit of money to Girah. I have never seen this player play heads up high stakes and he also happens to be from Portugal. INEVERFOLDI and Girah are the only two portuguese players I have ever seen play high stakes on Merge. Another coincidence?

So I wondered what does Girah or LockPoker have to gain by cheating in their own challenge. Well, first they wouldn't have to sign another pro to a costly contract or enter him into the WSOP main event. That saves them a good deal of money. Secondly, look at how Girah won the challenge. Their #1 player, a portuguese "poker prodigy", their superstar, makes a crazy come from behind at nosebleed stakes on the very final day to win their challenge. It's almost too perfect.

I am not saying there was cheating and I am not saying that there wasn't but there are just too many weird coincidences. It just seems very fishy to me. Draw your own conclusions.
05-13-2011 , 09:10 PM
get a life..
05-13-2011 , 10:00 PM
any skeptics, that actually have money (i highly doubt any of u do, but w/e) offer some kind of bet regarding Jose and his falseness. i'm all ears and would love to win some money from you. min bet 1k.
05-14-2011 , 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TooCuriousso1
any skeptics, that actually have money (i highly doubt any of u do, but w/e) offer some kind of bet regarding Jose and his falseness. i'm all ears and would love to win some money from you. min bet 1k.
who is talking about falseness any more?
05-14-2011 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Stake Monster
who is talking about falseness any more?
falseness in any regard.

asking the haters to throw something out there that they think is untrue about Jose or what he's said and if we have the means to prove it then we can bet on it...

Last edited by TooCuriousso1; 05-14-2011 at 02:40 AM.

      
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