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View Poll Results: Who will win the Durrrr Challenge II?

Tom "Durrrr" Dwan

1,577 41.89%

Daniel "Jungleman12" Cates

2,188 58.11%

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09-03-2013 , 09:18 PM

#4626

MiRee446

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,720

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Originally Posted by CliffLee

^^ Yes you are. The fines are more of an incentive for Tom to play not just a fee that he needs to pay (or will he?) on a monthly basis, indefinitely - or until he presumably pays 1.5m.

Wow holy contradictions. Pretty sure you just reiterated my post in a more convoluted way. First it's a disincentive, which is a fee that he can choose to pay over playing 4k hands/month. The key would be for Jungle to figure out a number that wouldn't make sense for Tom to pay rather than playing.

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09-03-2013 , 09:27 PM

#4627

David123

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8,819

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Originally Posted by Christ, De 'Berg!

Well, I think it's starting to be quite conclusive that Tom Dwan is another one of the former heroes turned scumbags that poker churns out

lol based on what. threads like this that are idle gossip between a bunch of ppl who know nothing or close to nothing about the real situation?

no one has any facts, other than tom is one lazy bum. but there might be more to the story who knows. drawing conclusions on inperfect information is never fun.

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09-03-2013 , 10:01 PM

#4628

LucidDream

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10,714

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Originally Posted by David123

he doesn't appear to be being lazy...just highly incentivized to play nose bleed live NL rather than worry about the challenge. that said its been long enough and he certainly owes it to jungle at this point to either play or settle up on the side bet.

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09-03-2013 , 11:02 PM

#4629

MegaOuts

journeyman

Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 324

by the time this Dwan 'angle shooting' Challenge is done!.......
The average Canadian annual income will be $1,000,000!

My bet on Jungleman vs my friend be worth 1 cent by than, and we already got rid of the f*cking cent!

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09-04-2013 , 10:48 AM

#4630

foal

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 3,599

Dude they played 6k hands on the first day of play when this thing started. 6k.

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09-04-2013 , 12:46 PM

#4631

theskillzdatklls

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,920

Quote:

Originally Posted by foal

Dude they played 6k hands on the first day of play when this thing started. 6k.

that is pretty funny to put things in perspective.

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09-04-2013 , 12:58 PM

#4632

P. Pubbs

centurion

Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 191

Like I said before, Durr strategy is obvious... Challenge is set in nominal USD, so stall until global currency contagion occurs, then repay in worthless USD.

The opportunity cost of that capital is getting ridiculous. Compounded annually at 7%, over 3 years, JM is out another $337k, plus the opportunity cost of additional winnings.

Total angle shooting by Dwan.

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09-04-2013 , 01:09 PM

#4633

Divided By Zero

grinder

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 597

or if jungle or durrrr goes busto (if not already true), get hit by a bus, full tilt goes down again, etc. etc.

Even if he was busto it would be very scummy to keep saying that the challenge will continue soon and agreeing to time schedules.

it is amazing, dwan actually adressed the problem of stalling in the original video in which he challenged _everyone in the world except PG_ 5 years ago (starts at 2:28):
http://www.pokertube.com/videos/tom-...oker-challenge

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09-04-2013 , 02:52 PM

#4634

JackRandall

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 1,966

Fairly sure the only person Durrrr has played 50k hands against since starting these challenges is Isildur

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09-05-2013 , 11:28 AM

#4635

NEMplsJW

adept

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 792

I hate to say it but it definitely looks like dwan Is ducking at this point.

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09-05-2013 , 11:43 AM

#4636

TheLove_Below

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 796

Quote:

Originally Posted by NEMplsJW

I hate to say it but it definitely looks like dwan Is ducking at this point.

been ducking since BF, and you see people like Viffer coming out and standing up for Durrr with lame excuses like. "Tom isnt at the top of his game". Just Concede with the $1.5 and get on with his life.

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09-05-2013 , 11:49 AM

#4637

MiRee446

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,720

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Originally Posted by TheLove_Below

Since BF? It'd be pretty tough to play when you and your opponent are citizens of a country where online poker is banned. Jungle wasn't ready to play until he moved out of the country and even then he still had more money stuck online than anyone else.

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09-05-2013 , 11:55 AM

#4638

TheLove_Below

adept

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 796

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiRee446

Theres a things called moving out of the country. If i recalled correctly, Jungleman12 was willing to play Durrr since 2012, and Durrr was dodging him since. I could sympathize for the BF issue affecting all US players. now FTP is reinstated, and DUrrr is named the "Professional", I just dont see anymore excuses for him to be dodging Jungleman12 up to this point, since he has a reputation to defend.

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09-05-2013 , 12:01 PM

#4639

CallMe.Maybe

stranger

Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 4

you would think durrrr would realise he would seem like even moar of a bitch in dodging so maybe he's not dodging.

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09-05-2013 , 12:14 PM

#4640

Divided By Zero

grinder

Join Date: May 2012 Posts: 597

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Originally Posted by TheLove_Below

been ducking since BF, and you see people like Viffer coming out and standing up for Durrr with lame excuses like. "Tom isnt at the top of his game". Just Concede with the $1.5 and get on with his life.

I almost forgot about his role in this already absurd scenario. He apparently bet a huge amount on "jungleman has to forfeit his 500k before completion of the challenge" (because he gets owned so bad) vs. multiple people, jungleman among others.

Viffer mentioned this here, jungleman tweeted (documented here):

Daniel Cates ‏@junglemandan
@4viffer If I recall correctly, you told me to my face you wouldnt have to pay me cus Durrrr would never finish the challenge...

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09-05-2013 , 12:42 PM

#4641

theskillzdatklls

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4,920

under what conditions do the official mediators of this bet decide that dwan owes jungle the 1.5M? is anything under escrow besides jungles money? have any theoretical conditions even been created?

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09-05-2013 , 12:56 PM

#4642

Rob999

banned

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,711

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLove_Below

Viffer is funny in a lot of ways but he's a scammer/hustler. He bet on Durrrr and doesn't want to pay. He'll say anything to get out of paying a bet. Remember when he stiffed Eli Elezra? That was criminal to watch a guy weasel out of a loss like that. I wouldn't trust him as far as Sheiky could throw him.

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09-05-2013 , 07:01 PM

#4643

Mrtrebus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,963

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlaSuu

I logged into my daily sports betting site today and they had the over/under on the Durrr challenge finishing before 2014.

Posted pre black Friday

I wonder what the line was

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09-05-2013 , 07:51 PM

#4644

bef99hwk

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,266

hey douchebags...instead of bumping the thread by arguing over useless junk, bump when it's actually running.

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09-05-2013 , 08:18 PM

#4645

Mrtrebus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,963

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Originally Posted by bef99hwk

hey douchebags...instead of bumping the thread by arguing over useless junk, bump when it's actually running.

stop bumping please

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09-05-2013 , 09:10 PM

#4646

NEMplsJW

adept

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 792

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Originally Posted by bef99hwk

hey douchebags...instead of bumping the thread by arguing over useless junk, bump when it's actually running.

Stop bumping please.

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09-06-2013 , 03:26 PM

#4647

MiRee446

old hand

Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 1,720

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheLove_Below

been ducking since BF, and you see people like Viffer coming out and standing up for Durrr with lame excuses like. "Tom isnt at the top of his game". Just Concede with the $1.5 and get on with his life.

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Originally Posted by TheLove_Below

BF was in 2011 bra, so no not dodging since BF. And Jungle was borrowing money from durrrr since he had like $4M locked up on FTP. Bc of this durrrr was assuming that Jungle didn't have the funds available to 4 table 200/400 and Jungle didn't communicate effectively enough when he did have the money (has admitted this).

So I'd chastise durrrr for not playing March, April, the first 1/2 of May, and August. Other than that you're exaggerating based on an uninformed opinion.

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09-06-2013 , 05:21 PM

#4648

Maryjanebj

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 152

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob999

What did he do to elezra? Link ? Thanks

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09-06-2013 , 05:24 PM

#4649

Mrtrebus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,963

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiRee446

BF was in 2011 bra, so no not dodging since BF. And Jungle was borrowing money from durrrr since he had like $4M locked up on FTP. Bc of this durrrr was assuming that Jungle didn't have the funds available to 4 table 200/400 and Jungle didn't communicate effectively enough when he did have the money (has admitted this).

So I'd chastise durrrr for not playing March, April, the first 1/2 of May, and August. Other than that you're exaggerating based on an uninformed opinion.

Read the old posts in the thread, Durrrr was dodging pre black Friday.