No, i mean ICM the missing 900k given to the bustouts to remove any issues between the clients

Everybody deserves the same refund. The tournament was cancelled because there were fake chips. The final 27 deserve no more money than the person who lost in 2500th place.

Then those who finished 28-450 make more than 1-27?

http://www.wilentz.com/casino-law
http://www.cooperlevenson.com/people...=display&ID=26
http://www.foxrothschild.com/attorne...-casiello.html

There are more obviously, but you should be looking at ones located in New Jersey with gambling law experience.

!!! How!!!
28th placed got little over $6300 !

They deserve all the same amount. They only made it that far by using fake chips.

The guy was advocating refunds for everyone and the final 27 only getting their buy in back.

So what do you with those who were paid over $560 during the tournament?

They keep it, nothing can be done. Borgata messed everything up and has to eat the remaining prizes out of pocket.

I suspect most of these firms represent the interests of the casinos and gaming associations and do not sue casinos.

Your "thought" process is pretty awful. If the $560 you lost is this important I would suggest not playing high variance donkaments.

This makes sense, but sadly $900K doesnt leave much meat on the bone for a law firm, plus the vast majority of the plaintiffs are due only a very small piece of the pie based on a calculated chop. Only the top 3rd are really getting screwed.

As for a Jersey attorney familiar with gambling but unlikely to be working for a casino already.... My cousin Vinny.

That's a potential problem with every gambling-law specialist, as the market for casino clients is ~0 law-wise. This is such a specific area of the law you'd like to have a specialist though, so can't hurt to try finding one if you wanna sue.

I just posted to my twitter @gunslingerbach how unfair this ruling is, and suggested fellow professionals BOYCOTT the borgata unless they make this situation right.

thank you sir

Terrible ruling for many of the 27. I guess it wasn't the Borgata fighting the DGE for the players for the past 4 months after all. But yet, once they opened doors for the BSO hoards of dumbazzes couldn't wait to get in there and play.

Absolute robbery. All in with David Bach on boycotting the Borgata.

One thing not being picked up on is the use of the word "entrants" which is the number of persons and not the number of "Entries/Buy Ins". Those are two different numbers. Entrants are being paid and not for the number of entries/buy ins they had. Does anyone know how many total re-buys there were in this tournament? That might help to understand the numbers better.

I suggest you read the Borgata statement before posting any more. You are only confusing matters.
They are refunding some of the re-entries.

*2100 entrants getting refunded buy-in
*2/3 of final 27 getting more than they would have had play continued
*Borgata refunded all their take for the event over $200,000
*Div Gaming absolved Borgata of any wrongdoing
*Div of Gaming issued an order to Borgata how money would be distributed
*None of the final 27 can prove they would have busted 9th or better

There is no way Div of Gaming was gong to make a ruling to make everyone happy. While not perfect, I don't see this as a horrible ruling. I don't care if your the chip leader, we all know that can change in a few hands and now your busted out 27th. Nobody can say who would have been the 9 that would have cashed more.

For those bashing Borgata. Borgata found the problem and did what was required by Div of Gaming in that situation. From that point on it was out of their hands. They may have been able to lobby for things, but no decision was their's from that point on. Those complaining about security are the same ones who would be saying boycott Borgata because they showed up for a tournament and got patted down by security before being allowed into the tournament area to make sure they weren't carrying fake chips. Look at it this way, had the chips been found earlier, the tournament would have been canceled earlier and everyone would be just getting $560 back.

I very much doubt they were going to lobby for them to have to pay any extra.
The only lobbying they will have been doing was to try to retain their rake. At least they didn't get to keep that, despite them being absolved of blame.

I looked briefly but could not find what payout structure for this event would have been.

could someone post ?

Not really surprised.


Did anyone really think that Borgata was going to dip into their own pockets? I mean, come on, we're talking about a corporation and a business that can hide behind itself and multiple layers of other authorities.

Post #4153 by KevMath.

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