So Broedelet, Guagenti and Gola took a collective loss of approximately 318,000 from their equity. The Borgata lost the house fee of about 288,000. I would certainly be consulting a lawyer if I were one of them, although I'm not sure what their chances are of winning. Probably not very good.

First they've got to convince the court system that they have a case despite the Borgata following DGE's ruling, and despite the ruling not implicating Borgata for any negligence. Next, they've got to explain ICM and poker tournament equity models to a judge (possibly a jury, I'm not sure whether the plaintiff or defendant chooses in a civil case), which is going to be difficult in and of itself.

I'm curious, a few in the Final 27 have posted that Lupo or others at the Borgata told you guys not to worry, they'd make it right. Have you heard anything from those people since?

The fact that Lupo is giving quotes to the Press of AC that they gave out the 288K in the house fee because it was the right thing, and that they weren't forced (even though the ruling says they were), probably doesn't speak well to his likelihood of even addressing what was said before.

If I was in charge of a rival casino in the AC area I'd offer up the chance for the remaining 27 to finish the tourney at my poker room... Let them each start with their published remaining chips, make the prize pool be $900k and proportion it to what the published % of prize pool was for each of 1st to 27th, offer to comp the 27 a flight and room, and watch the amazing PR roll in... Would for sure become a national story and the PR of it would more than be made back for whichever casino had the guts to do a move.

My spreadsheet matches yours exactly.

So Sick...feel bad for the final 27. I sat out the Spring Open (usually play a couple prelims) and will look at other casinos moving forward. (I played in the canceled event and getting a refund but this is a joke)

The event was canceled for 2100 ppl...lol

Its amazing the lengths people will goto to try and justify getting free stuff.

wld ne be kind enuff to post the refund #800 so i dont hv to wade thru all the posts...ty

"We take game integrity very seriously at our casino--so much that we are willing to right the wrongs of one of our rivals so that people are not dissuaded from the entire industry. We felt what happened at borgata and how the victims were treated was something that could damage the reputation of the entire industry, including us, if we did not show just how much we value making our customers good when there is a failure to protect them."

^^
In reference to the idea for another casino to offer the 27 a shot at the 900k borgata robbed them of .........

Would be brilliant for a casino in PA or NY to do this. Stick that final dagger in AC. This ruling just shows how ridiculous the state of NJ is. They have been fighting casino expansion to north jersey and such for so long that they would rather die(surrounding states taking away business) than just figure out a fair solution to keep people in their state gambling in NJ.

Zero chance of this happening.

http://www.theborgata.com/assets/pdf...resolution.pdf


At the bottom

LOL. I'll have two of whatever you are drinking/smoking

ty

For me to accept no negligence from Borgata, I would like to know:
1) When and how often fake chips were introduced.
2) When did players first complain to floor about possible fake chips.
3) Is it possible that fake chips were noticed and ignored after days 1b, 1c ended, and no action taken because of Borgata's exposure to cancel tournament.
For people talking about lawsuits, I would think that if you can prove that they were aware of the fake chips long before they had no choice but to stop tournament (after call from Harrahs reporting fake chip discovery) they may have a claim.

I think this is unfortunately likely best outcome Borgata could come up with under the circumstances. I know I'm in minority and it obviously sucks for the top 27.

There may be grounds for a lawsuit though.

ICM chop seems a lot more fair.

What a joke of a puff piece article. A sham to the profession of journalism.

since this thread needs a little bit of humor...



will the $560 go towards my hendon mob total?

So the final 27 had a tougher road to get top 27 than normal right? Unless they were cheating as well

Wasn't there something like 200,000 extra chips after day 1 as listed by chip counts, which is way outside the normal range of color ups. Should have been noticed then.

seems like borgata took care of borgata
how can they know where everybody played when they let some guy
put 800k in fake chips in play
JOKE ruling

My god man. Its the truth...Black and white....

What happens if a race car is the high qualifier on speed, but cheated. Then a car chasing that speed crashed in qualifying because the person driving that vehicle was chasing an illegitimate number?

Get the point? You have to press and use different tactics.

I also guarantee I get my 1120 back..I was in group 1c. I have no doubt, one way or the other I am getting my cash back

I'm surprised at how unfavorable this ruling is to the remaining players, it's basically inviting a lawsuit.

There will be lawyers.

You are just not slick enough to look at the whole picture.

Why would they if you weren't affected?

I guess super butterfly effect would be someone busted by fake chips rebuys in 1c and winds up busting people and he would have not originally played.

I guess I would think the second lusardi entered the tourney everyone from there should get refunds. Just a messy situation.