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04-14-2014 , 04:28 PM

#4151

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,426

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Originally Posted by Ephixa

How many entrants were there total? I played Day 1A so I'm not sure if I qualify for a refund but it seems like they are refunding everyone and I won't complain getting my moneyback

4812, according to PokerNews.

http://www.pokernews.com/live-report...prelim-events/

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Originally Posted by riverph7

http://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/2014news/Bo...FinalOrder.pdf
So who this 2143 players ?

Day 1 b ?

Day 1 c ?

Does any one has brake down of Day 1a-1b-1c?

Why are you asking a guy who is just linking his back to one of his own posts about...who cares what?

No one knows who the 2143 are right now, of course, but maybe someone will figure it out if they know the day breakdowns.

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04-14-2014 , 04:28 PM

#4152

Ephixa

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 311

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRYTWO

~4000 total ... it specifically says how many are/are not getting refunds

It doesn't say what flights will be paid

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04-14-2014 , 04:29 PM

#4153

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,426

There were 1212 on Day 1A, but I haven't found any 1B/1C breakdown yet.

867 players started Day 2.

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04-14-2014 , 04:31 PM

#4154

FRYTWO

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 493

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThatGoogleGuy

This doesn't sound good for people who fired multiple bullets though. Looks like everyone will just be getting $560 instead of a refund of what they spent. Does anyone have any info about this?

if you re-entered 5 times then you are considered 5 separate entries

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04-14-2014 , 04:32 PM

#4155

Ephixa

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 311

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

1212 on Day 1A

So it looks like ~1500 people that have played on 1B and 1C also won't be paid? I can understand not getting paid in 1A if Lusardi didn't play (but I won't turn down a freeroll :P) but for the people that played in 1B and 1C if there is some amount of them that don't get refunds while still playing in the same day as him I can definitely see a ****storm incoming, I'd be surprised if this doesn't end with a lawsuit

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04-14-2014 , 04:36 PM

#4156

Bobo Fett

Carpe Diem

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,426

Quote:

It was a colossally busy day at the Borgata Hotel Casino and Spa in Atlantic City yesterday, as thousands of players competed in the ambitiously scheduled Day 1B and Day 1C of the series´ opening event. Following Tuesday´s massive turnout which resulted in 1,212 entries into the unlimited re-entry tournament, a further 2,094 entries were recorded in the first of Wednesday´s two sessions, with the numbers unknown as yet for the second session of the day.

http://www.pokernewsreport.com/chris...ng-event-15498

So if all that was correct, it would break down as:

Day 1A 1,212
Day 1B 2,094
Day 1C 1,506

Of course we have no idea how many from each flight cashed, as it's likely they aren't being refunded, but the numbers would make sense for a refund of all Day 1B who didn't cash.

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04-14-2014 , 04:37 PM

#4157

FRYTWO

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 493

judgement has been made and people are still speculating... yikes

I'm just curious to know the actual breakdown of players to get refunded - 1B+1C? 1B+1C+1As who made day 2?

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04-14-2014 , 04:37 PM

#4158

ZPNY18

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ephixa

Seems to me it could be all Day 1B players who did not cash and then those who made it to Day 2 who originally played in 1A and 1C, but ultimately did not cash.

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04-14-2014 , 04:37 PM

#4159

ASAP17

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 5,882

Only $19,323 to each of 27, pretty horrible decision.

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04-14-2014 , 04:38 PM

#4160

Ephixa

journeyman

Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 311

Quote:

Originally Posted by ASAP17

Only $19,323 to each of 27, pretty horrible decision.

It looks like its going to be 50.8k coming out of borgatas pocket per person and then 19k from the prize pool chip

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04-14-2014 , 04:39 PM

#4161

Brock Lesnar

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Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 39

You are not subtracting the number of people who already got paid. Everybody who didn't cash is getting a refund.

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04-14-2014 , 04:39 PM

#4162

MaxRhino

adept

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 913

"Pay prize awards, in the total amount of $50,893, to all entrants who were awarded a prize but who have not yet been paid"

I can't make sense of this statement. What does it mean? How is it different from the 27 left?

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04-14-2014 , 04:40 PM

#4163

ohsnapzach

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Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 74

Day 1 A - 1,212
Day 1 B - 2,094
Day 1 C - 1,506

Day 2 - 867 ?

Day 3- 27 *never played*

Last edited by ohsnapzach; 04-14-2014 at 04:47 PM.

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04-14-2014 , 04:42 PM

#4164

ZPNY18

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRhino

This is referring to people who cashed but did not get their money from the cage prior to the funds being frozen. At least that's how I read it.

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04-14-2014 , 04:43 PM

#4165

TheGramuel

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Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 8,362

Haven't read EVERY post so this may have been answered.

What about people who fired multiple bullets? If someone fired a bullet on day 1A, 1B AND 1C do they get their full $1680 back?

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04-14-2014 , 04:43 PM

#4166

FRYTWO

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 493

So it seems that they are refunding all of 1B non-cashers and 1A+1C Day 2 non-cashers

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04-14-2014 , 04:44 PM

#4167

MaxRhino

adept

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 913

Quote:

Originally Posted by ZPNY18

This is referring to people who cashed but did not get their money from the cage prior to the funds being frozen. At least that's how I read it.

That's sort of what I understood too, but I suppose it means the 50k is chopped up between whatever mystery number of players there are in this circumstance?

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04-14-2014 , 04:44 PM

#4168

FRYTWO

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 493

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGramuel

Haven't read EVERY post so this may have been answered.

What about people who fired multiple bullets? If someone fired a bullet on day 1A, 1B AND 1C do they get their full $1680 back?

each time you re-entered is a separate "entry" - however, 90% of 1A and 1C won't be refunded

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04-14-2014 , 04:45 PM

#4169

Bobo Fett

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Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 57,426

Quote:

Originally Posted by ohsnapzach

Day 1 A - 1,212
Day 1 B - 2,094
Day 1 C - 1,506

Slow pony is slow.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGramuel

Haven't read EVERY post so this may have been answered.

What about people who fired multiple bullets? If someone fired a bullet on day 1A, 1B AND 1C do they get their full $1680 back?

There's only been about 20 posts since the ruling was posted; you might be able to get through them all if you try really hard.

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Originally Posted by FRYTWO

So it seems that they are refunding all of 1B non-cashers and 1A+1C Day 2 non-cashers

What makes you think 1A+1C Day 2 non-cashers are being refunded? Not saying you're incorrect, but I'm wondering where you got that from.

Edit to add: It would make some sense, though.

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04-14-2014 , 04:46 PM

#4170

ZPNY18

enthusiast

Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 71

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRhino

That's sort of what I understood too, but I suppose it means the 50k is chopped up between whatever mystery number of players there are in this circumstance?

No - I still take it to mean they will be paid out as to the original schedule for wherever they busted. More just a statement saying these funds are released and people are now free to retrieve their prize.

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04-14-2014 , 04:48 PM

#4171

riverph7

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Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 2,605

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaxRhino

There are many players who were knocked out in the money , they have pay slips but cage did not paid them

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04-14-2014 , 04:48 PM

#4172

BInkingFlawlessly

newbie

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 43

As part of the final 27 $20,000 would be an atrocity.

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04-14-2014 , 04:50 PM

#4173

FRYTWO

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 493

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bobo Fett

What makes you think 1A+1C Day 2 non-cashers are being refunded? Not saying you're incorrect, but I'm wondering where you got that from.

just an educated guess based on the numbers. Would make sense seeing as the number of people to refund is higher than the number of entries on 1B. We can deduce that the difference reflects the players who made it to Day 2 but did not cash as they were technically affected by the fake chips as well.