I would describe your proposal as blatantly unfair. That extra equity you're claiming for yourself is coming directly from others who have more chips than you. How would you feel about others who have already busted out asking for a hefty piece of equity from you? It's the same thing.

One of the most interesting things about this tournament is the human behavior we've observed in the aftermath. Everyone seems to have an argument for an award far out of proportion to what is deserved.

ummm,isn't fighting for more equity what happens when people are negotiating a chip chop? not sure if that is a sign of a pathological personality. i openly expressed my self-interested argument, but i wouldn't be out of bounds if this were a voluntary chip chop to fight for 3% of prize pool rather than 2%. "blatantly unfair" is a bit hyperbolic

as I said before, final 27 like you and others took the worst beat of all on this.

reality is that this is a zero sum game. By definition no matter what the ultimate decision is, some are going to feel they didn't get their "fair" share.

A dollar cannot be split into more than 100 pennies.

Still confused why there haven't been more arrests. Hard to believe Lusardi introduced all those chips himself. Also given my perception of his moral character, hard to believe he wouldn't have flipped on the others to get a better deal for himself.

And the opinions posted on here by anyone claiming to be one of the final 27 carries no added weight with me unless you can prove that you're not an accomplice to Lusardi. It also carries little weight due to opinions being colored by where your stack is currently. Knowing that playing it out at this point is not going to happen in any fair manner, its just a matter of figuring out what the best chop is for you and fighting for that to happen.

Your primary motivation is not 'What's the best thing as a rule going forward' your motivation is 'How can I maximize my payout today'.

The first day of the spring tournament is not a logical day to do it. What if some of the final 27 were planning to play other events that day? What if they were not planning to show for the tournament at all due to other commitments? What if they refuse to play at another Borgata event after what was done to them last time?

yeah, wouldn't rule out further arrests but god i hope the DGE is not still trying to sweat Lusardi, scour for evidence, and figure who else was in on it. i'd like to think their investigation is over and they are now just ironing out the details of the ruling (how is prize pool chopped? does everyone get their buy ins back? does the borgata pay a fine? are new security measures/regulations necessary for future events? etc, etc) if they haven't yet moved past the investigation then an actual decision could be months away

As someone who was at the Borg, fired two bullets in this MTT, & roomed w the guy who essentially broke this wide open (@7thecho), I must say that the plethora of illogical talk itt puts me on life tilt. I've been having issues lately... Dealing w the fact that so many things in life are just ridiculously unfair and set up so wrong. This thread isn't helping.

Today will be the 80th waterboarding session for Lusardi

Dont let the tolls on here bother you-and there are plenty on this site. Put them on your ignore list and smoke a blunt...life is good

Yes. It can require a major re-adjustment.

It would have been easier if we had just been told, from an early age, "Life is not always fair".

ICM would be the only fair thing to the remaining 27 and potentially the only payout where the remaining players won't sue Borgata

Was also gonna say ICM, don't see another fair way it can be done

They get sued regardless of which way they do it...never gonna make everyone happy

That may be right or wrong statement.

But we know remaining 27 are subject to 24/7 water boarding session !

Show me where I ever recommend an even chop...I have just shy of chip avg..so any way it is chopped I get about 50,000. I have only said the fairest way would be to play it out...with any kind of chop there will be people that lose...I do believe that all of people who a commenting on the way this should be resolved would have a different opinion it they were on of the 27

One of the inevitable "changes" that will be coming to tournament poker, especially large-field MTTs, will be a new paragraph of boilerplate legalese embedded somewhere within the signup receipt when you pay your buy-in and entry fee. It will state something to the effect of: "In the event that this tournament is cancelled for any reason by order of the DGE, player agrees to comply with and accept the binding decision/resolution as handed down by the regulator. Player also agrees to waive any right to pursue a damage claim in lieu of the regulator's decision."

No, it is your name Borg23

the icm is a neutral fair way and 0f course the chip leader deserves more equity. BUT the fairest way would be to play it out, than no one could complain about what they end up with in the end. of course the out of staters might not like having to come back but if the borg threw in a sweetner than it could work out.

I am one of the out of staters...I will make the 4 hour drive to play it out.

So if it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and his name is Donald Duck, is he a duck? j/k

unless they let us play it out. having alot of sleepless nights? i dont find myself passing out until around 3am everyday... this is sick!!

HMMM...Well... if it looks like a woman and talks like a woman and smells like a woman, but when you lift up the skirt and a certain body part is there that isnt supposed to be there is it still a woman?

There's no incentive for the person that might be in 3rd place to agree to come back and play this out. Right now, that player thinks they deserve 3rd place money. If they come back, they could go out in 15th, losing all that equity.

Borg1: We need you to come back and play this out.
Player3: Sorry, I can't make it due to my day job and family stuff.
Borg1: We're going to make you 27th place then.
Player3: My lawyer says the tournament was officially cancelled, I'm in 3rd place. He'll be calling you for my money and extra for 'my troubles'.

<Borg1 finishes conversation with Player3, talks to borg rep2>
Borg1: So 3rd says he can't make it back and will sue if he doesn't get 3rd place money
Borg2: I just got off the phone with Player17. Says if we don't play it out he'll sue for first place money as he was on a rush when the tournament was cancelled and knows he would have taken it down.

Ridiculous examples above. 3rd place would be blinded out, not 27th. 17th is stupid to not take icm given 27-19 get around 8k.

interesting, good thought... the only thing though is that none of the 27 have "placed" yet, they gave out a paper that told us what position we were in according to our chip stack size so i dont think a player can say that. the hold up very well may be the borgata begging the dge to let them finish this mtt so that they dont get sued. (at least by the remaining 27)