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Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT* Borgata finds counterfeit 5k chips in WPO #1-Cncls event-Arrest made-Lawsuit filed-*RULING OUT*

03-07-2014 , 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pipes
lol so 1800 is small but 4000 is completely unworkable?

I know Borgata thinks it can just open the doors and the players will come on running. And for the most part they are right.

But if this is still outstanding next month I would guess (and hope) that the attendance in the BSO drops around 15% even with the presence of the WPT.
Parx is new and 1800 id say is 2nd to borgatas big opening events other then that 1000 is the most you'll see besides wsop in Vegas. Parx will probably have 2200-2400 next time. Only a matter of time they could do a 4000 person tournament with multiple days. I would say a 800 players of the opening event are randoms who gamble often tourist who play casually at home and are visiting parx doesn't get that. You don't casually drive to parx for vacation.

There structure is better though IMO.
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03-07-2014 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdadio48
everyone has been pretty patient up to this point but come on now this is not right, two months???? really ? really? the fnnn patience is going out the window!!
amen!!!! No news today has me tilted...considering I was told by the Borgata (for the 2nd straight week) that they expected a DGE resolution on Friday(today!). I really do think the Borgata wants this headache over as much as we do but they obviously don't seem to have a hell of a lot of quality communication with the DGE.
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03-07-2014 , 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
amen!!!! No news today has me tilted...considering I was told by the Borgata (for the 2nd straight week) that they expected a DGE resolution on Friday(today!). I really do think the Borgata wants this headache over as much as we do but they obviously don't seem to have a hell of a lot of quality communication with the DGE.
Or the Borgata is looking out for themselves and trying to work with the DGE on getting out of this as cheap as possible.

They keep telling you and others that it'll be 'just a few more days' so you stop calling.
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03-07-2014 , 09:10 PM
It's getting to the point that a Boycott of their Spring Series should be boycotted. Good luck getting Poker players to band together.
It really is outrageous there is no resolution at this point. I was one that defended Borgata that they would do the right thing. Doesn't look that way at all now
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03-07-2014 , 09:45 PM
A boycott of a boycott? Does that mean you go?
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03-07-2014 , 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by pokervangelist
It's getting to the point that a Boycott of their Spring Series should be boycotted. Good luck getting Poker players to band together.
It really is outrageous there is no resolution at this point. I was one that defended Borgata that they would do the right thing. Doesn't look that way at all now
I'm in

I've mentioned before that I'm not outraged over this, but I'm a rec and there is a lot of competition for my dollars and time.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 15% slimdown from last BSO. And most of those are Recs.
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03-07-2014 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by pokervangelist
It's getting to the point that a Boycott of their Spring Series should be boycotted. Good luck getting Poker players to band together.
It really is outrageous there is no resolution at this point. I was one that defended Borgata that they would do the right thing. Doesn't look that way at all now
Borgata cannot do anything until/unless NJDGE gives them the okay.
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03-07-2014 , 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jigsaw
Borgata cannot do anything until/unless NJDGE gives them the okay.
They shouldn't tell people they will get an answer Friday 2 weeks in a row.
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03-07-2014 , 10:51 PM
Boycott the boycott because the chips were counterfeit fakes.


Ffs, lets get a decision for these guys!

Last edited by jjjou812; 03-07-2014 at 11:04 PM.
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03-07-2014 , 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by jjjou812
Boycott the boycott because the chips were counterfeit fakes.


Ffs, lets get a decision for these guys!
Maybe for East Coast MTT grinder pros, the Borgata will get their business rain or shine. They have no choice, they work for the "man" Borgata

But I am not that, and neither is a decent portion of the field.

Your move, Borgata

Can't wait for the Day 1a and 1c we got paid! celebration thread
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03-08-2014 , 12:03 AM
But it just seems to me that there is very little buzz about the BSO
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03-08-2014 , 12:10 AM
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Originally Posted by darthsikle
A boycott of a boycott? Does that mean you go?
lol
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03-08-2014 , 01:10 AM
I'll join the boycott but then I wasn't going anyway.
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03-08-2014 , 09:28 AM
greatest slowroll ever?
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03-08-2014 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
amen!!!! No news today has me tilted...considering I was told by the Borgata (for the 2nd straight week) that they expected a DGE resolution on Friday(today!). I really do think the Borgata wants this headache over as much as we do but they obviously don't seem to have a hell of a lot of quality communication with the DGE.
they could definately use a new public relations manager, this guy brian has NO concept of time, how can he say this week 2x and still not give the news? they must not know what resolution to give so why not let the remaining players make that choice? majority wins. 1) even chop 2)icm chop 3)come back and play it out. if they sent the remaining players an email to vote on this it could end the resolution delema if this is the hold up. that prize pool is for rhe remaining 27 who played hard and fair to get where thier at.
id be scared to death going into any of the borgatas mtts until this is resolved. if the borgata is concerned about their reputation they should do something now.
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03-08-2014 , 12:24 PM
All he had to do is send an email saying we didn't hear from DGE like we expected...instead they say nothing. I sent him and The VP an email on Wednesday suggesting that they at least send a weekly email even if it just said "still waiting on DGE"....I don't know about you and pninwin but I want to play it out....really only fair way...I have see crazy things happen and a chip chop or straight chop is not fair to everyone...only playing it out
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03-08-2014 , 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Oneof27
All he had to do is send an email saying we didn't hear from DGE like we expected...instead they say nothing. I sent him and The VP an email on Wednesday suggesting that they at least send a weekly email even if it just said "still waiting on DGE"....I don't know about you and pninwin but I want to play it out....really only fair way...I have see crazy things happen and a chip chop or straight chop is not fair to everyone...only playing it out
Maybe the DGE has made their decision and the Borgata doesn't like their end of the it and are negotiating to lower their exposure. Therefore telling anyone that its in the DGEs hand may be incorrect.
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03-08-2014 , 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Oneof27
All he had to do is send an email saying we didn't hear from DGE like we expected...instead they say nothing. I sent him and The VP an email on Wednesday suggesting that they at least send a weekly email even if it just said "still waiting on DGE"....I don't know about you and pninwin but I want to play it out....really only fair way...I have see crazy things happen and a chip chop or straight chop is not fair to everyone...only playing it out
playing it out would be okay with me, i live one hour away from the borg, but is it a fair option for someone who lives in florida? i think playing it out is a fantasy, it could be a fiasco to get everyone back at this point, i have a hair over 3mill in chips so i would probably end up with around 45k. im guessing you may have more... i would pick an even chop... anyone of us could be on the 27 - 19th place and get $8140. 9th place-$43018 8th place $60472- an even chop would give you 53k with no risk and a decent bankroll.
im not a fan of an icm, its not like we were on a poker website that crashed, about a half hour before we quit on friday morning i made a bluff ( i was the button) and donked off about 1.5 mill just trying to take the blinds, if i knew i would be giving away so much equity i would never have tried... lol. everyone who was left had a chance... i would go for even chop.
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03-08-2014 , 06:10 PM
promises of resolutions, no updates, not paying out a prize pool... poor communication... UNEXCUSABLE!!!! before you take your hard earned money out of your wallet... THINK!!!! this could be you..
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03-08-2014 , 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by cf410
Maybe the DGE has made their decision and the Borgata doesn't like their end of the it and are negotiating to lower their exposure. Therefore telling anyone that its in the DGEs hand may be incorrect.
wouldn't surprise me if the DGE has indeed decided on releasing the remaining prize pool to the final 27 but are getting input from the Borgata on how to do it. The DGE might suggest an even chop but the Borgata would worry about lawsuits from the big stacks and be pushing for an ICM chop or, perhaps, the Borgata poker people are pushing the DGE to actually let them play the tourney out. kick off the spring open by playing it out, giving one guy a trophy and a big check, and ending the debacle in good old fashioned tournament style.
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03-08-2014 , 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdadio48
playing it out would be okay with me, i live one hour away from the borg, but is it a fair option for someone who lives in florida? i think playing it out is a fantasy, it could be a fiasco to get everyone back at this point, i have a hair over 3mill in chips so i would probably end up with around 45k. im guessing you may have more... i would pick an even chop... anyone of us could be on the 27 - 19th place and get $8140. 9th place-$43018 8th place $60472- an even chop would give you 53k with no risk and a decent bankroll.
im not a fan of an icm, its not like we were on a poker website that crashed, about a half hour before we quit on friday morning i made a bluff ( i was the button) and donked off about 1.5 mill just trying to take the blinds, if i knew i would be giving away so much equity i would never have tried... lol. everyone who was left had a chance... i would go for even chop.
works for me
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03-08-2014 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by pninwin
works for me
Anyone with less than avg stack would go for an even chop. Accomplishes nothing.
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03-08-2014 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by doublejoker
Anyone with less than avg stack would go for an even chop. Accomplishes nothing.
an even chop garantees 53k, not bad for a 560 buy in, 0ne would have to get 8th place or better.. so the majority would not make it this far and anyone who is still in has a chance to win so why should they receive less?
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03-08-2014 , 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mrdadio48
playing it out would be okay with me, i live one hour away from the borg, but is it a fair option for someone who lives in florida? .. i would go for even chop.
Nobody above the avg. will want a straight chop and nobody below avg will want an equity chop...I recently played a tourney...when we were down to 5 players I lost a large pot and was left with less than 1 big blind and came back to win it...last week I made a final table with the chip lead and went out in 8th...the only fair way is to play it out...most of the 27 are from NY, NJ, CT and PA...if someone is not willing to come back and take their shot at $372,000 then they are a fool and get 27th place money
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03-08-2014 , 08:35 PM
If I would have know there was the possibility of some sort of equity chop I would not have the last hand of day 2...I lost about 700,000...that is a big difference in equity..
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