I personally consider the climate crisis a lost cause. I relate it to the Movie Independence Day. Its a world problem and a poverty problem . China is not onboard so your screwed plus your asking folks in those countries to remain poor.

Justin wants to lower our development of fossil fuels and with that can never balance a budget. Look at the 30 billion for battery plants. He is trying to try and outspend Biden and he has no materials for those plants either

Though I agree all politicians lie but no one does it better than JT Academy award Material

Well it’s a good thing history do not judge prime minister through popularity contest but years later seeing how real policies affected the country AS A WHOLE in a positive or negative way .


The thing about the second link makes no sense to me .
Not surprise 2 intolerant religion gets together to condemn tolerance towards religious prejudices .
The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Amusing how the article doesn't actually include a single exam of a supposed lie.

Oh there are so many and you know it I could list them all but you will not list his accomplishments

Justin should stop insulting peoples like the Muslims Its their ideology let them believe in their ideology and Justin you believe in yours

Lol
Samaritan always gets screwed in the end

You should watch the video. It's 8 minutes long. It's Trudeau sitting down, one on one, and having a good faith and candid conversation where he explains his beliefs and perspective and listens and responds. It's actually a really good video, the kind of conversation that is often quite rare these days of sound-bite memorized talking points. I know, I know, you haven't watched it and just seen conservatives try to tear him down, but this isn't the win you think it is.

I actually did see the video were he sits down with them at the table. He is still lecturing them when he says they are buying into the Right wing propaganda and insults their faith. They do not want their children taught the trans ideology and as parents they have that right

It isn’t a new phenomenon, government intervening in the economy to help the private sector to make big paradigm shift on how to do things .
Obviously it’s always inflationary but that is the cost of doing less business with China which u clearly stated many times that Canada should do ….

So again , a famous paradox u always fall upon , which sides are u on , u can’t be on both side simultaneously….

U are for oil and fighting climate changes .
You are against inflation and yet you are against China and globalization.
Make up your mind instead of complaining about jt on every side of the mouth without ever bringing a solution …..

If he was against Muslim .
He would not be against the Quebec bill about religion ….

But as prime minister he got federal policies responsibilities representing everyone !

Sorry, I actually it is extremely healthy part of democracy that our leaders would have a candid 8 minute long conversation with a constituent where they discuss issues. I notice you don't identify any lies. This seems to be the bit you are alluding to:

This isn't - at all - saying muslim parents don't have rights. It's making a pretty good point, actually. You don't have to agree with it or find every detail of this off-the-cuff conversation completely flawless, but it is weird to use this to attack him. This is a healthy thing.

So, do you have some actual examples of "the trans ideology" being taught to elememtary school students in Canada?

I have none but I respect Muslim parents concern

He is very soft on his objections on this bill as is the conservatives and the worst the NDP as they do not want to lose Quebec votes

I would suggest you have none because there are none, or at least not any that are following provincial curriculum and guidelines.

My experience with most people's concerns around LGBTQ issues in schools is that they fall into three different categories. Some people are misinformed about what kids are being taught. What I hope is a small number fully understand that kids aren't being taught a "trans ideology", or don't care to find out, and are using this to further their bigoted ends. And then there are those who weren't actively looking to push hate, but have gotten caught up in the nonsense. Some are fearful and confused, some are a little older and while not hateful are holding on to some dated and bigoted beliefs they were raised with, and there are some whose mental health hasn't done well through Covid and now they're latching on to whatever "freedom!!!" causes they can to fight back against some perceived enemies they believe have done them wrong. Unfortunately the latter group is being led by the middle group to a pretty dark place where it's become OK to show up en masse at school board meetings with messages of intolerance and hate and accuse educators of "grooming" their kids and other such nonsense. Whether those particular Muslim parents are buying into right wing propaganda or not, I couldn't say, but it's certainly possible. To be frank, I'm concerned that's what's been happening to you over the last 6 months or so.

So what does this mean to you? **** it, let's not worry about it any more because we're all doomed?

I still believe in moving Forward with some climate strategies but not at the expense of our resource sector . I would applaud ending all US coal through CDN ports now not in 7 or 8 years . I would applaud actually planting tons of trees . I actually would agree with ending fossil fuel subsidies though I would stop throwing 30 billion at battery factories that may be obsolete once their built or not have the raw materials to build them .

I just do not applaud Justin's Fxxk Alberta and Saskatchewan mentality .

Let's face it we could eliminate all fossil fuels in Canada and it would have no effect on climate change

Having cleaner air in our area seem a good side benefit .
I thought the example from the fires were evident shrug

None of the current policies will reduce the increase in temperatures nor reduce forest fires

See I would agree with you last year. My sister who is a retired VP told me not a chance any of those goes on in public schools at any level as the parents need to give permission . I told her nope they just had grade school kids at pride month heading to the gym for drag queen story hour . She said BS show me proof

https://torontosun.com/news/local-ne...chool-near-you

Sadly it is going on . Let me clear I support any adult doing what they want as far as puberty blockers, testosterone and trans surgeries. I do not support it for children . I do not support biological men competing in women's sports . I think a majority of CDN's have the same viewpoint

As for folks like Dylan the trans influencer I have stated many times if I drank Bud Light I would continue and I do not care what she does . I read recently that a individual on the Canada Women's World Cup roster was the first non binary individual to compete . First I was whoppe do you call yourself they/them till i looked at they instagram page and found out she had top surgery and was like wow. Yes I would like to sit down with they and understand what went through that individuals mind to remove their breasts . I also thought your an adult and I actually support our health care system paying for that

I have a huge issue when Justin lecturing Muslims when he barely stood up for them when it came to Bill 11 in Quebec I can only imagine if he delivered his passionate trans speech in the same way condemning Nova Scotia i do believe and did the same with the province of Quebec but that will cost him votes

The mans a hypocrite as well as a serial liar

Of course we need to take 'trans ideology' out of quotes and disambiguate its meaning. If we take the wiki definition of ideology for example I think maybe it would be hard to argue that there isn't a significant push to teach kids 'trans ideology':

More specifically the idea that you should spend time questioning your own gender, that its moral and respectful to participate in others pronoun games, and that this ideology should define and shape the law. I would call that trans ideology and suggest that there is a growing push to teach this in schools (although who is pushing it and what is growing I think we could define further)

Some peoples mental health has suffered in regard to the intellectual isolation and gaslighting they are faced with I think, and there are people that claimed they were following the science whilst chastising those that were simply calling for common sense. I think the latter have the significant mental health issue and they are generally going to be those pushing also for trans ideology education in public school (or not pushing back against it in the name of science and knowledge based education).

We should also take 'grooming' out from quotations. Those most actively in favor of trans ideology based education absolutely mean to condition children as young as possible with this ideology. That's grooming by a certain definition of it and doesn't really need quotes.

On twitter however, there was the connotation you need to allude to it when you mean to point out grooming. This was because even reporting of obvious child abuse would get you flagged by the state corrupt moderation on twitter. It wasn't 'grooming' it was actual grooming and there was terrible **** being upheld by those ****s

That is why I was speaking about cleaner air to breath for a good side benefit

Your continued inability to properly conjugate they/them is hilarious.

So why would you not agree with me this year? What is it you think drag queen story hour has to do with "trans ideology"? You understand that drag queens and transgender people are very, very different things, right? And why anyone cares about drag queens reading stories to kids is beyond me anyway.

But that said, what you are talking about is only a tiny piece of what we're seeing - people coming to school board meetings wanting books they know little about banned, showing up at a teacher's union office calling teachers "pedos", and the rainbow flag a "pedo flag", and I could go on and on.

I don't know who "we" is supposed to be or why you think you should be the one to speak for said group (something very common to your posts), but I'm good with the quotes there, thanks. And it's quite simple to argue that there isn't a significant push to teach kids 'trans ideology' in Canadian schools - I've been doing it for the last few posts.

I would suggest you likely don't have a ****ing clue what is being taught WRT this issue in Canadian schools. I don't mean what you've been told is being taught, but what actually is. But if you have some knowledge and/or examples to prove me wrong, please feel free to share.

See above.

No, I put grooming in quotes for a very good reason. This "grooming" kids in schools nonsense is just that - nonsense. Again, see above.

No idea what you're on about here.

Again, if you have some kind of knowledge of what's actually being taught in Canadian schools, please feel free to share. I think I have a pretty good handle on what's happening in our province, but I don't claim the same for every province.

Chat reminds me when I was in a car dealership in the US and one of the randos working there just starting ranting about socialized Canadian health care which he knew meant you never got to choose your doctor and you had to wait for 8+ hours for anything and months for anything that was urgent. No doubt he believed what he was saying, but it certainly had no basis in actual reality so figured easiest thing was to look at my wrist with no watch and say look at the time, I have to be somewhere, thanks for the chat. Not like reality was going to change his perspective.