U need to realize something .
End fossil Fuel Isn’t possible and no one advocating it .
Trying to end use (or minimal use) fossil fuel for car and transportation , yeah sure .

That's total BS and you know it Fuel costs lowered inflation

You must have misinterpreted. Indeed, as I stated, fuel costs went down in this last report. Which means that your stated theory about carbon taxes in fuel leading to higher food costs don't make sense. The primary drivers of food price inflation just is not the carbon tax, it is a complete lie to suggest this and is not at all supported by the links you used or the data you cite.

Yet food prices are up 9.7% according to global news tonight and let's not forget the bank of Canada rate increased last week

Agg I remember the days when climate barbie promised us the the carbon tax was limited . More of Justin's lies.

Do we remember only a few years ago when Justin told us money was cheap and him and the bank of Canada said interest rates are going no where
Another lie by Justin

Good luck renting and if your a refugee Justin's abandoned you

You seem to be struggling to follow. Yes, food prices are up. But you can’t just make up the cause of that. Your assertion was it was due to carbon tax on fuels, despite fuels going DOWN in the most recent report. Food prices are multifaceted, but the simple fact is the movement we are seeing over the last 18 months is simply not due to the carbon tax. I don’t know what alleged Trudeau lie you are trying to refer to here even is, but is clear that your explanation is false.

The carbon tax is too low to have any significant impact on inflation (for now at least) .
Food prices are still up because obv what we eat now (meats for example) was grown last year when the prices of oil was high .
So they won’t sell food at a lower cost of production .
lower food prices should be expected end of this year and next year (unless another financial crisis/war happens -> BoC goes brrrr) .

Oh really the Bank of Canada disagrees

https://globalnews.ca/news/8681032/b...-half-a-point/

Not surprise he gets confused mixing increases of prices with “real inflation” from a central banker .

Fwiw is another central banker in Europe .

https://www.ecb.europa.eu/press/blog...965f26.en.html

“Fiscal policy, for example, can redistribute the receipts from carbon taxes to low-income households. This would reduce the loss of real incomes and help sustain household consumption.”

Fwiw it’s pretty complicated and it depends on large variables .

But usually tax increases shouldn’t be inflationary .
If tax goes up in certain sector , well people will have less money to spend in other sectors right ?

So yes , carbon tax will raises prices of oil ( it’s intentional right ?) , creating higher prices in producing goods but on the other side people should have less money to spend elsewhere , like a mortgage for example .
In aggregate it’s dubious it will be inflationary because the money supply won’t grow !
For now anyway since the carbon tax isn’t that high yet .

If governments would lower taxes and BoC lowers interest rates then yes higher carbon tax should be inflationary since the people will be able to borrow more (increasing money supply) and have more money in their pocket to spend with tax cuts .

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f...0the%20economy.

But u know lozen , changing habits and how to do stuff always come at a cost usually .

Carbon tax probably on the short time could be slightly inflationary
( at 0 cost tho for consumers because of the rebate )
a bit but in the long run , If corporations change their production by using alternative energy without much increase in spending then the inflation shouldn’t follow the carbon tax increase .

It just strange to think tax increases creates inflation which usually it ain’t so in aggregate.
Maybe it’s different because it’s on energy but again , if everything cost higher due to energy , consumption goes lower (unless people borrows money) reducing prices over time .

All in all only higher prices cure inflation and I don’t see the carbon tax having a long lasting effect on inflation to the upside, like any other taxes .
Only increase in money supply creates sustainable inflation , not higher tax .

When you increase the costs to produce food it causes inflation . The carbon tax does that and the Bank of Canada concurs

Oh wasn't it about 18 months ago Justin was bragging interest rates are low and not going anywhere for years

like i said , it might causes inflation in food but it can be deflationary in other sectors which in totally its even .

it should be more the chairman of BOC, jt as no power over interest rates.

Your right the BOC sets them but he shouldnt be telling us money is free and interest rates are going no were.

It hasnt been that long when they said the carbon tax was capped at $55.00

Another plus for Justin resisting back to work legislation for the union

Kudos from me

Will see if he caves and legislates them

Aghh Justin Trudeau ranked the worst PM in History his father the best

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/3-in-1...rvey-1.6489981

Booed at Indigenous games




Not a fan of this behavior




And of course Trudeau lecturing Muslims. What about your catholic faith Justin
https://nationalpost.com/opinion/rah...-the-far-right

Interesting Article on the biggest polluters with Canada 10th

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/tops...&ei=8#image=12


Id be curious if that included US coal going through Canada's ports

Good point lozen. I'm going to vote for the party phasing out thermal coal and that american passthrough you hate so much by 2030. Are you going to vote instead for the party that both brought it in and won't get rid of it?

I am going to vote for the party were the leader may actually tell us the truth and one that not every word out of his mouth seems to be a lie.

I am going to vote for the leader that scraps the carbon tax that will make things more affordable

I am going to vote for a leader that is not authoritarian

Nice dodge. But of course your new points are just as stupid as the one you dodged. As I've been highlighting ITT, Poilievre lies through his teeth endlessly. You can be mad at both (although not equally, Poilievre is substantially worse), but pretending Poilievre is someone who "may actually tell us the truth" is laughable. One of his regular lies has to do with your second point, the idea that affordability has a lot to do with the carbon tax. Because 90% of the revenue generated is returned to Canadians, it just is never going to be a big lever on affordability and inflation. Not zero exactly, but if you care about affordability there are dozens of policies one could implement that would do a much bigger impact than this. The bit about authoritarian is presumably you just throwing out words you don't understand.

0/4 lozen, 0/4.

Not Poilievre, just one of his buddies, but a great example of the standard conservative lie on the carbon tax. Look at this pure conspiracy nonsense about the carbon tax being a ploy to generate revenue. Of course it is utterly ridiculous given how 90% of it is - as is repeatedly confirmed - is rebated back to people and the other 10% doesn't go into general revenue. Literally zero dollars are retained by the federal government from the carbon tax and yet conservative minions claim it is all about generating revenue! https://twitter.com/GarnettGenuis/st...085248513?s=20

It is a ****ing scandal of a lie.

Elizabeth May?

Oh, so Poilievre.

Not sure who this would be. I guess Poilievre is what you're hoping, but ditching the carbon tax won't magically do this.

That doesn't narrow things down much, since that's all of them.

Can someone explain how to share a tweet. I cant find it in the forum guide?

Trudeau the pathological liar

https://thecountersignal.com/peterso...ological-liar/

Ok I am looking for a different kind of liar that may be a bit more fiscally responsible. The climate battle is a lost cause and Mt Climate Phony knows that

I do love how the very first quote from Poilievere is...a lie. " 'He always lies, as far as I can tell — all the time. I don’t think I’ve ever heard him say a word that I thought was true,' Peterson told Maher."

There are "tweet" tags. Just put the code of the tweet in between them - the number at the end of the URL.

OK, fair enough. Although I'm not sure where "the climate battle is a lost cause" is supposed to lead us. So...no climate change action since we're screwed anyway? Maybe you should be looking at the PPC instead then. Although I have to admit I'm not sure - even they might have some token climate change action plan.

To be clear, this is based on just one of your three points from your earlier post. Because the first point disqualifies Poilievere, and the last point applies to all the leaders.

Ill try

Doesn't work

https://twitter.com/TheCounterSgnl/s...824550400?s=20

So I hit tweet i geta tweet in brackets and tweet in brackets and what do i put in there 1683536694824550400?s=20

I put it in for you. Looks like this:

[.TWEET]1683536694824550400[/TWEET]

But without the dot in the first tag which I put there so you could see the code.

I do feel a little dirty helping give Peterson more publicity.