Lmao. When are the conservatives going to stop stripping away the context and reposting that now decade old micro-clip of Trudeau pretending that it implies he actually supports dictatorships when he obviously doesn't.

As for Harper? Montreal is correct. The full context of the original quote was about Harper so don't get mad at Montreal for bringing up Harper, get mad at your conservative buddy for reposting the stupid quote

Like the whole black face thing he did?

In light of the pullback of a 5 billion $ battery plant in Ontario a great opinion piece on Justin's failed carbon tax

Some of the highlights

what is this, a greatest hits list? I guess if you are unable to critique current policy initiatives, then dredging up these decades past things might what you need to resort to.

See above and Montreal did bring up Harper

This article is pretty poorly framed. So first let's just be clear, in a vacuum the Canadian approach of a carbon tax is far far superior to the american approach which doesn't put a price on carbon but does a bunch of various incentive schemes like massive subsidies for EVs and the like. If you could choose one thing for both countries to do, you'd choose the Canadian approach every time.

There is then a secondary question of whether given that the American have not done a carbon tax, and instead are putting in place these subsidy programs, whether Canada should also compete for those or whether they should throw up their hands and say ya know what we've done enough on the carbon tax, may as well give up on everything else. Well, I say: do both. You're somebody who always seems to argue the carbon tax isn't enough on its own, but now you seem mad that Canada is doing things above and beyond the carbon tax as well.

Oops forgot to link the article. No I have said Climate Change is an important issue that will not be solved unless the world tackles it

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/tops...57b8097a&ei=23

Im sorry 13billion in Subsidies when Justin claims is to much

As well lets not forget

WOOOOSH. Montreal brought up Harper because the quote he was responding to by wreckem was about Harper. Of course, the conservatives never quote the full context of the utterly benign quote, they clip this decade old quote off to make it appear that Trudeau is pro-dictatorships or some nonsense when he is in fact getting a dig in about Harper's dictatorial tendencies. So this is 100% on wreckem and 0% on Montreal.

This post didn't respond to the argument I just laid out in the previous post. Want to try again?

in Greece they are banging out free energy. what is Canada doing?

it's literally free. all they pay are some hardware fees initially.

they reported about a Greek business owner. instead of 14k he pays now 1.5k per(euros) year in electricity bills.
What is Canada talking about? Ukraine and covid.

https://www.greekcitytimes.com/2023/...y-needs/%3famp

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...vid-19-vaccine

He’s also a blatant liar

Nice. Personally I think all things should be free all the time. Free stuff is literally great!

yes, move to this island where it is all free.
filling up your tesla? free
heating, cooking, watching Netflix: free

thanks to photovoltaik

in guessing with Greeks financial problems in the past they try to attract some new people to this island. it shows whats possible though with photovoltaik.


https://eusew-2022.prezly.com/energy...ricity-for-all

He is only a liar because he listens to the higher liar above him.

The mans a serial liar

Actually it does Justin said with a carbon tax we do not have to compete against the Americans as much as they will need to subsidize green energy. Well 18 billion is on par per capita what the Americans are doing . So we are doing exactly what the Americans are doing banking on a energy source that is unreliable and may be dirtier than fossil fuels

on this subject Rand Paul says the same about Fauci:

You don't think we should be doing at least as much as the Americans are doing? I think we should price carbon AND subsidize technological transformation, and that the americans are wrong for only doing the latter. Do you think we should do one, both, neither, what? Your whole bit is that Trudeau is a climate phoney, but he is the guy doing BOTH carbon pricing AND subsidization. That sounds like climate realist to me.

Also really weird to hear the fear mongering about "dirtier than fossil fuels". These bizarre far right talking points just slip into your posts and I don't think you even realize it.

Lmao which conspiracy theory are you alluding to here again?

i know u did.

he specifically made a link about JT in the time that was harper who was the prime minister.

obv. i had to react to it o0 .
whats wrong ?

You know all the controversy of Cleopatra series on netflix going on now ?
the same BS about JT making a black face when Aladdin isnt even black ...

when you watch the Paul video you understand what I'm talking about.

Fauci says now he didn't force anyone.

just as

Trudeau says he didn't force anyone.

=

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then who forced everyone? they are pushing this responsibility back and forth and that doesn't add up. we know Fauci was for a very short time a very powerful some say the most powerful human on the planet. he could have said something and it was instantly basically a law. (not yet an official law but as good as in reality. and exactly on this fact he and they are now gas lighting us) we need to think about if this, if this was a wise move to have all the power on one man.

The sad reality of Climate Change is it is real and some of it is man made. The other reality is that Canada could end all its fossil fuels today and it would have little to no effect. Until China, India and South America join the fight its a losing battle

Lets say these battery plants get built were do you think all these minerals will come from to make all these batteries? What do you do with all these batteries when they are expired. How will our grids even handle the increased consumption? Its not like we have plans for more electrical distribution .

Do you drive an electric vehicle? It seems they are a rich mans vehicle that Justin subsidizes

Let me remind you why . Start at the 2;40 mark

Im sorry when you paint your whole body black and stuff a banana in your pants and dance like a monkey your a racist at that moment in your life

The claim has never been that EVs are not without any challenges, but that their challenges are vastly superior to endlessly pumping carbon into the atmosphere via fossil fuels.

I do not. I commute mostly by bike, secondarily by public transit, and occasionally I drive my decade old ICE car. - and I purchased a home such that this hierarchy is possible. My next car will almost certainly be electric though. With the increasing carbon tax and incentives, switching to an EV only makes more and more sense as time goes on. You are correct that today a new EV is quite expensive and out of reach for many lower income Canadians, that is something we should work on changing via subsidies etc.