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08-12-2021 , 04:52 PM
Trudeau election in September is brain dead stupid .
For a prime minister that was in favour of elections being at a fixed date …..
you can see a lot of « democratic ideas » he had being elected in the first place ( where is the proportional voting system ?) are changing with time because the taste of power always feel good ..
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08-12-2021 , 05:14 PM
Why not strike while your opponents include someone fighting with her party, someone with the charisma of Paul Martin and someone who’s platform Trudeau can just steal from to dilute their base? The longer he waits, the less chance he has of getting a majority.

As for Trump and Trudeau being a tossup, lol - sometimes this thread reminds me of an AM call-in talk radio show.
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08-12-2021 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
For a prime minister that was in favour of elections being at a fixed date …..
you can see a lot of « democratic ideas » he had being elected in the first place ( where is the proportional voting system ?) are changing with time because the taste of power always feel good ..
Hold on, is this true? I don't recall anything about Trudeau being against minority governments calling election?

Certainly suggesting one can't do this would be quite undemocratic.
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08-12-2021 , 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Hold on, is this true? I don't recall anything about Trudeau being against minority governments calling election?

Certainly suggesting one can't do this would be quite undemocratic.
Nice reversal of the true meaning of real fixed dated election that was about to expunge partisanship and opportunity of taking power .

What the hell does minority or majority government for elections change anything in that .
It’s bs excuses.

People voted a minority government, respect the freakn choices of people’s as long government works between all parties .

But no , , opportunist tactic of power wins again at the expense of the voters again …..like all other parties .
Hence Trudeau failed again as being a « different » politician for the people and not just for Himself .

The exact same excuses for abolishing proportional election reforms that end up being not really helpful for the liberals but would of been tremendously better for the voters .

No guts , no truth, no honesty like all politicians !

You can turn this **** all you want uke but that election is only to serve Trudeau and the liberals and nothing else .

Tell me what this election brings for the voters being early asked to go voting huh ?

If you can’t see you are as blind as the other side pardoning and accepting anything their parties just because the leader said so ….

Ps: I’m way more in the side of liberals than conservatives but Im not a blind idiot ….
Trudeau got elected to do a freakn job and so should just freakn do it as long it works !

If their was limited terms you could do for example as a prime minister like in the US ( a good thing !) , you can bet your as$ He wouldn’t declare earlier election …..

Last edited by Montrealcorp; 08-12-2021 at 07:32 PM.
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08-12-2021 , 08:10 PM
I don’t quite follow. Did Trudeau previously say he didn’t support calling elections except on an American four year cycle?

I do accept it is purely for partisan power. That’s how our democracy works. We could want the American system with no minorities and fixed elections, but we don’t have that. I want political parties I support to get majorities and stay in power and have no problems with them exercising our democratic process to try and gain that…..why shouldn’t I?
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08-12-2021 , 10:07 PM
Im just fed up of Politicians thinking about their political career first and voters second .
And that election in December is all about that and nothing else .

Another couple hundreds millions spending for no particular reason ….
Probably ending up at the same damn place , minority government.
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08-13-2021 , 02:31 AM
Canada opening travel to any vaccinated travellers sept 7
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08-13-2021 , 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Im just fed up of Politicians thinking about their political career first and voters second .
And that election in December is all about that and nothing else .

Another couple hundreds millions spending for no particular reason ….
Probably ending up at the same damn place , minority government.
This is clearly about his self interest. He seems to be getting everything he wants through with the NDP's or Bloc.
I was watching one doctor on global calling this election a potential super spreader event.
Your holding it in schools and the logistics of it all. Every time someone votes you need to wipe down the station and provide a new pencil. They figure we may have 5,000,000 mail in ballots.

If he wins a majority he moves on but if he gets another minority what is his future as leader?
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08-13-2021 , 10:03 AM
This still one of the great interviews of Trudeau with the comedy

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08-13-2021 , 11:11 AM
It's pretty selfish to call an election in the middle of a global pandemic, especially at the start of the 4th wave.
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08-13-2021 , 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
It's pretty selfish to call an election in the middle of a global pandemic, especially at the start of the 4th wave.
Isn't Alberta more or less fully back to normal with businesses open, no mask mandates, vastly reduced testing, isolation etc......you are saying with all of that the bridge to far is standing in a socially distanced line for voting?

I'm sorry I just have a lot of trouble believing these right wing folks actually give a **** about marginal covid risks, and instead just want to throw out empty talking points.
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08-13-2021 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Montrealcorp
Im just fed up of Politicians thinking about their political career first and voters second .
Can't it be both? I want political parties I support to do well in elections and gain political power to implement policies I support. I don't buy that this is sort of zero sum where if a political party wins power that means the voters lose.

People grumble a lot about elections. But I think elections are good. I think the democratic process is good. I think frequently hearing the will of voters and building mandates for action is good. Yes, politicians make choices so they can win, but that is all parts of politics, it is just core to how democracies work. If you don't like the policies a politician is likely to implement, don't vote for them, but getting made that there is an election at all is just silly.
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08-13-2021 , 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Isn't Alberta more or less fully back to normal with businesses open, no mask mandates, vastly reduced testing, isolation etc......you are saying with all of that the bridge to far is standing in a socially distanced line for voting?

I'm sorry I just have a lot of trouble believing these right wing folks actually give a **** about marginal covid risks, and instead just want to throw out empty talking points.
This is a good point. But if grandma and grandpa gotta die for a lib majority then so be it!

He wants the election before cases rise in fall and winter. It's not rocket science. Same reason my cousin moved her wedding shower up by 4 months, she wants to cash in before ppl start freaking out again
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08-13-2021 , 01:39 PM
Federal workers now have a vaccine mandate. More great news. Oh, the anti-vaxxers will be pissed off, but who cares about them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fed...ions-1.6140131
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08-13-2021 , 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by nutella virus
This is a good point. But if grandma and grandpa gotta die for a lib majority then so be it!
Probably should close restaurants again. Just think, grandma and grampa gotta die so people can have a beer after work!
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08-13-2021 , 02:27 PM
He could wait until next summer but by then we will have had a winter wave and he won't look so shiny and clean. Idgaf when the election is bc it is time we get on with things
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08-13-2021 , 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Can't it be both? I want political parties I support to do well in elections and gain political power to implement policies I support. I don't buy that this is sort of zero sum where if a political party wins power that means the voters lose.

People grumble a lot about elections. But I think elections are good. I think the democratic process is good. I think frequently hearing the will of voters and building mandates for action is good. Yes, politicians make choices so they can win, but that is all parts of politics, it is just core to how democracies work. If you don't like the policies a politician is likely to implement, don't vote for them, but getting made that there is an election at all is just silly.
Of course .
But what does this election try to accomplish you think , beside winning a majority ?
Is the parlement not working ?
Do anyone ask for election ?
Aren’t we in a pandemic still while u still have time to govern before election are needed due to its duration of terms ?

It just make no sense but for Trudeau , that is what piss me off .
He should just do his damn job with what environment the voters gave him !
If he can’t deal it with it , he should just retire ….
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08-13-2021 , 03:47 PM
yep canada fails again im not surprise, when will the people learn there are no good politicians if there were they get murk
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08-13-2021 , 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by jfound
yep canada fails again im not surprise, when will the people learn there are no good politicians if there were they get murk
Its why Trump won the first time as well as Trudeau. They both ran as something different. Yet once they both got elected they were both far from what the promised and nothing more than self absorbed crooked politicians that delivered on very few of their promises.

Trudeau could shoot someone on Queens Street and folks like Uke would still vote for him
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08-13-2021 , 04:03 PM
Idk how you can post this stuff sober. Do you have a substance abuse problem
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08-13-2021 , 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by uke_master
Federal workers now have a vaccine mandate. More great news. Oh, the anti-vaxxers will be pissed off, but who cares about them.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/fed...ions-1.6140131
Great news if you ignore that it’s something that’s been an obvious move for th e past four months - instead of making a move in the Spring, they dithered the summer away. Now they’re going to run into some headwind from PSAC or some other union and since we need a federal vaccination documentation implemented, we will be still waiting for this mandate come winter.
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08-13-2021 , 04:53 PM
Could someone just say I have a religious reason I can not take the vaccine and be covered.
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08-13-2021 , 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Shifty86
It's pretty selfish to call an election in the middle of a global pandemic, especially at the start of the 4th wave.
Lol never change. If you and your ilk ever argued in good faith I’d have to rethink my worldview.

Now is a great time to have elections if we are concerned about the actual election being a spreader event: the expected fourth wave won’t be in full swing by then and in mid-September they could theoretically have the voting process outside and not have to worry about snow. That being said, no one is worried that the election is going to cause people to catch covid - it is however excellent fodder for those who love making the most idiotic arguments.
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08-13-2021 , 05:19 PM
just Read the government release:

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In addition, as soon as possible in the fall and no later than the end of October, the Government of Canada will require employees in the federally regulated air, rail, and marine transportation sectors to be vaccinated.

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Anyone want to make a bet they miss that?
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08-13-2021 , 06:10 PM
I reluctantly can't support it, because ya know, democracy and all, but a mask requirement in order to be able to vote (and thus right wing anti-masker nutjobs would be disenfranchised) is something the GOP would 100% support if the positions were reversed.
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