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11-18-2021 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by emophobic
Yes and no. It is legal to open carry in Nevada but a casino will ask you to leave if they see you carrying a firearm. If you are concealed carrying then yes you could bring a gun to the poker table but that is being done against the casinos wishes.


To the recent discussion, as I said open carry is legal here and gun laws are pretty lax but I have literally never seen anyone with a gun on their hip in public in over 25 years of living here.
You've never posted in this thread before under this account.
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11-18-2021 , 01:45 PM
They caught some guy trying to follow the jury bus. Schroeder banned MSNBC from the courtroom. The guy following the bus claimed to be from NBC, but NBC apparently has denied it. Drama!
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11-18-2021 , 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Howard Treesong
They caught some guy trying to follow the jury bus. Schroeder banned MSNBC from the courtroom. The guy following the bus claimed to be from NBC, but NBC apparently has denied it. Drama!
Sick angle. So if I want to get Fox thrown out, I just need to go full paparazzo with a camera, then tell the cops I'm with Fox?
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11-18-2021 , 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
You've never posted in this thread before under this account.
Giving full benefit of the doubt it seems he posts in a lot of Vegas discussion threads and that might be what he is referring to.
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11-18-2021 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by emophobic
Yes and no. It is legal to open carry in Nevada but a casino will ask you to leave if they see you carrying a firearm. If you are concealed carrying then yes you could bring a gun to the poker table but that is being done against the casinos wishes.


To the recent discussion, as I said open carry is legal here and gun laws are pretty lax but I have literally never seen anyone with a gun on their hip in public in over 25 years of living here.
They will first ask you to secure it in a private locker they provide. When you leave they will return it to you as long as you are legally carrying it in many of the larger casinos. If you refuse they will escort you off the property
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11-18-2021 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiddyBang
All gun laws are unconstitutional, end of discussion.
ok but what is a gun?
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11-18-2021 , 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by spaceman Bryce
Character matters whether it’s supposed to or not. If you accept that Mr. Rosenbaum was murdered, and I think he was, then the “active shooter” theory of the prosecution holds and the other shootings were murder/assault as well. If you don’t accept that, Kyle did a good job defending himself.
I'm not so sure. If someone hits you with a skateboard and runs away are you allowed to kill them while they are retreating? Is your life in danger just because a retreating person did do some damage to you? I think there are two murders which put Rittenhouse as an active shooter.

And is there any consensus here as to what extent Rosenbaum was threatening KR's life? I don't see any video evidence other than Rosenbaum chasing him and heading towards him. The defense seems to be saying Rosenbaum grabbed the barrel of the gun. I don't see that, but even if he did so what. I can walk around with a rifle daring people to touch my gun and blow them away if they do? It seems like defenders of KR are saying just having a gun means any confrontation instantly becomes existential and from that point lethal force is always justified.
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11-18-2021 , 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
Sick angle. So if I want to get Fox thrown out, I just need to go full paparazzo with a camera, then tell the cops I'm with Fox?
Certainly possible. He apparently told the police the name of a producer he was working for at NBC, and there is a producer there by that name. That still obviously proves almost nothing except that the angle was at least second-level.
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11-18-2021 , 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Land O Lakes
Protesting by burning down businesses? I don't think that's what a redress of grievances means.
If the business owning class didn't want cops killing members of the underclass or perceived underclass then the police terrorism would stop immediately.
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11-18-2021 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
If the business owning class didn't want cops killing members of the underclass or perceived underclass then the police terrorism would stop immediately.
Deep.
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11-18-2021 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
I'm not so sure. If someone hits you with a skateboard and runs away are you allowed to kill them while they are retreating? Is your life in danger just because a retreating person did do some damage to you? I think there are two murders which put Rittenhouse as an active shooter.

And is there any consensus here as to what extent Rosenbaum was threatening KR's life? I don't see any video evidence other than Rosenbaum chasing him and heading towards him. The defense seems to be saying Rosenbaum grabbed the barrel of the gun. I don't see that, but even if he did so what. I can walk around with a rifle daring people to touch my gun and blow them away if they do? It seems like defenders of KR are saying just having a gun means any confrontation instantly becomes existential and from that point lethal force is always justified.
How about if he is chasing him yelling Im gonna get that rifle and kill you with it?

Also I am not sure I am chasing a guy with an AR 15 or hitting him with a skateboard.
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11-18-2021 , 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by lozen
How about if he is chasing him yelling Im gonna get that rifle and kill you with it?

Also I am not sure I am chasing a guy with an AR 15 or hitting him with a skateboard.
I've tried to watch all the angles in the various videos. I didn't catch Rosenbaum saying anything or touching anything. He seemed to be heading towards Rittenhouse, maybe you could say lunging towards him. Whether or not you can kill an unarmed man for lunging toward you seems like a silly question to even ask, let alone debate. KR's defense will try to insert actions into the poor video quality, but there doesn't seem to be enough time for Rosenbaum to establish any capacity to pose some immediate grave risk.

You think you wouldn't do those things, but you might be surprised at how you feel when you're in the moment. You might not be the total wuss you think you are, though I agree it isn't the rational thing to do upon consideration.
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11-18-2021 , 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkJr
At this point I am thinking that there is a high chance of a hung jury. Very unusual for a jury to take this long IMO.
I thought it would take a few days
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11-18-2021 , 05:02 PM
“KENOSHA, WI. (THECOUNT) — Following the identification of NBC booking producer Irene Min Joo Byon on Thursday as the person who instructed an independent journalist affiliated with MSNBC to follow the jury bus in the Kyle Rittenhouse case, Byon has deleted both her Twitter and LinkedIn accounts.

On Thursday afternoon, Kenosha Judge Bruce Schroeder informed the courtroom of an incident regarding a man that identified himself as “James J. Morrison,” who was pulled over for going through a red light, and was following the secure jury bus at around a one block distance. He told police that he was working for Irene Byon, who is a booking producer for NBC. NBC later confirmed that this Morrison was working for them at the time.

When confronted by police, who issued him traffic citations, he told the officers that Byon had instructed him to follow the jury bus. As a result, Schroeder has banned MSNBC from the courtroom.”


https://thecount.com/2021/11/18/iren...byon-nbc-news/
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11-18-2021 , 05:13 PM
damn so if youre a juror can you watch tv and get on the computer? or you're just in a hotel room doing what??
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11-18-2021 , 05:18 PM
I'd imagine letting a jury on to Twitter to read about all the ways their families will be sliced up and used as fertilizer on the non-GMO fields of organic vegan soybeans would be -EV for trial integrity.

So yeah, they probably have to go to a hotel and play solitaire until the verdict is reached.
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11-18-2021 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Deuces McKracken
He seemed to be heading towards Rittenhouse, maybe you could say lunging towards him. Whether or not you can kill an unarmed man for lunging toward you seems like a silly question to even ask, let alone debate.
If you think this is indisputable, you may want to read the rest of the thread.
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11-18-2021 , 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
I'd imagine letting a jury on to Twitter to read about all the ways their families will be sliced up and used as fertilizer on the non-GMO fields of organic vegan soybeans would be -EV for trial integrity.

So yeah, they probably have to go to a hotel and play solitaire until the verdict is decided.
I assumed that was the case back then in the 80's 90's to reduce influence. but wasn't sure if anything changed

sounds really rough.


i stopped reading threads about this trial on reddit but its pretty crazy the 180 people on that site have taken, went form completely guilty to now a lot of comments saying otherwise.

also why would msnbc producer do that? was it to fin d out jurys names? if so that should be a felon imo or something like that. thats kinda scary from a jurors perspective.

Last edited by the pleasure; 11-18-2021 at 05:27 PM.
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11-18-2021 , 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by harkin
“KENOSHA, WI. (THECOUNT) — Following the identification of NBC booking producer Irene Min Joo Byon on Thursday as the person who instructed an independent journalist affiliated with MSNBC to follow the jury bus in the Kyle Rittenhouse case, Byon has deleted both her Twitter and LinkedIn accounts.

On Thursday afternoon, Kenosha Judge Bruce Schroeder informed the courtroom of an incident regarding a man that identified himself as “James J. Morrison,” who was pulled over for going through a red light, and was following the secure jury bus at around a one block distance. He told police that he was working for Irene Byon, who is a booking producer for NBC. NBC later confirmed that this Morrison was working for them at the time.

When confronted by police, who issued him traffic citations, he told the officers that Byon had instructed him to follow the jury bus. As a result, Schroeder has banned MSNBC from the courtroom.”


https://thecount.com/2021/11/18/iren...byon-nbc-news/
The corporate press is the enemy of the people
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11-18-2021 , 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by d2_e4
You've never posted in this thread before under this account.

First time posting in this forum period.

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Originally Posted by emophobic
Yes and no. It is legal to open carry in Nevada but a casino will ask you to leave if they see you carrying a firearm. If you are concealed carrying then yes you could bring a gun to the poker table but that is being done against the casinos wishes.

Which is what I was referring to, not a previous post I'd made.
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11-18-2021 , 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by emophobic
First time posting in this forum period.

Which is what I was referring to, not a previous post I'd made.
Apologies, I parsed your post incorrectly.
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11-18-2021 , 06:26 PM
Apparently the jury was not sequestered on this case. I guarantee you that Tammy from Kenosha is on Facebook every night and scared out of her mind.

Sorry, Kyle. Gonna have to take one for the team.
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11-18-2021 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Sorry, Kyle. Gonna have to take one for the team.
Sad times.
Spoiler:


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11-18-2021 , 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Inso0
Apparently the jury was not sequestered on this case. I guarantee you that Tammy from Kenosha is on Facebook every night and scared out of her mind.
I feel like you're projecting here.
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11-18-2021 , 07:18 PM
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