There is a lot of speculation here. First, you're assuming that a person has an unrealistic fear because you deem it unrealistic.

Secondly, you're assuming that a person with a gun is inclined to use his gun when he's cutoff in traffic or if he angers another driver. If you had a gun with you, is this what you would do in a road rage incident?

How? There are more guns than people in America, and the 2A is heavily steeped in this country.

I really don't want to make that argument because many "good guys with a gun" suck with firearms, but the reality is every mass-shooting ends with another firearm.

Small steps, I would think. Start by restricting some of the more egregious weapons.

Anyway, I guess I'm taking us off-topic, so I'll leave it with the thought that I honestly can't imagine how incremental improvements would be completely impossible.

I live in a medium crime district by NYC standards. Maybe I'm reckless or stupid, but I just don't spend much time worrying that I am going to be attacked in a grocery store or anywhere else. I honestly wouldn't feel any safer if I were open carrying a gun or carrying a concealed gun than I do walking around unarmed.

Yes,

I posted a video prior where they talked about how the NRA fought each and every restriction including the number 1 cause of hand gun deaths, domestic incidents where men kill their partner.

There was talk about restricting guns to the men who have any history of domestic violence or are reported to currently. It was fought and blocked and in the video the NRA advocate was talking about this issue and ended it with the answer being 'Arm Women!'


The answer to women dying in domestic violence shootings is for them to always be packing so they can shoot back. A shoot out over the kids heads.

Damn man, I didn't know things got so hairy on the Upper East Side.

Yes because I was countering your post that was also full of speculation and assumptions. You have how many young Realtor women packing heat because of what threat???

Why do you deem the threat is realistic? Seems like another assumption to me.

Lastly while i am not going to go stat hunting right now I am fairly confident that gun killings via someone saying it was self defense are far lower than deaths caused by disputes between individuals, leaving out crime which would really balloon this stat, but including domestic violence.

So it not just an "assumption" I am making. I am referring to the stats. You arm up a bunch of people, you end up with far more 'conflict' deaths where without the gun present these escalations would almost never happen. So if 'FEAR" is your reason, as yours seems to be, for why people carry, fear should tell you why less people should carry.

Lol. Your dedication to that joke is impressive. Maybe I'll move there when i am 90 just to deprive you of the pleasure.

Sounds like Canada should allow more guns in public as a way to end the mass shootings.

I agree with that statement but it is missing something.

Yes it would be a gun and maybe not just a cop with a gun who wold end the mass shooting, correct. But is that a win if the number of Mass shooting skyrockets, like it has in the US, so we could say 'ya but our citizens are armed and stopping many of them!' Win/win!


Seems like backwards illogical rationalization to me. Not the win/win you seem to think it is.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

Vegas shooter had 14 AR15s

I mean, even Howard was a bit reserved when talking about gun restrictions, and he's probably as liberal of a right-winger as you can get; there is zero wiggle room with hardcore 2A'ers, and they have a huge bankroll with the NRA, gun manufacturers, and so on so I'm dubious.

I wouldn't expect you to nor think you should. This is why I mentioned the scenario being a live situation that is currently happening.

For sure, and the NRA are slimy.

Well, yes, I'm assuming a realtor working in a shitty part of town might feel the need for protection. I don't know, though, nor is it my place to tell her that she's right or wrong about her situation.

I feel ya, but I don't think the skyrocketing mass shootings are due to more guns being available. That seems like an oversimplification of a difficult problem.

I have once in my life seen a guy in a grocery store openly packing heat, despite living in gun friendly areas for decades. These guys are weird *******s even by American standards.

Sure but mass shootings are not the main issue.

People killing people they know or associate with on a daily basis are.

if suddenly every Euro or Canadian was carrying a gun in their daily interactions I think it is not a stretch to say gun deaths would skyrocket.

More domestic violence deaths, more road rage and other incident deaths. More angry, suicidal person deaths.

People generally emotionally volatile in the moment in a way they would not be just 5 minutes later if you give them some time to cool down and think about things. Suddenly that person 'almost cutting you off' that you were screaming "I will kill you' who was at no real threat, truly is, or you are as he has a gun and takes your threat seriously.

FWIW, if you have a conviction for any domestic violence charge, even if it is a misdemeanor, it is a federal crime to possess a firearm.

I have no doubt in my mind that if I had a gun from the age of 17 I would be dead now.
I would have misused it or someone else. I'm guessing about 95% of people do not know how to handle a gun properly. How many people have anger issues, bad tempers, hotheads call it whatever u want.
How many?!! See? All of them either that or get emotional too quick. Don't allow anyone to own a gun. That's just crazy.
If you own a gun there is great chance it will be used against you. Look up stats if you don't believe me.

Who owns a gun ITT? U donk? Just admit it! There's no shame here it's just between us.
Btw when I was living in Mexico and heard that I can get robbed at gunpoint at any time I wanted to get a gun, but then decited against it real quick. Too dangerous! I don't need a gun. Just as Chuck Norris doesn't need one!

What's the worst that can happen? Nothing! They just take the few bucks that I have om me and play buddy buddy with the thieves. Here, take my phone too. What do I care? I'm a poker player! I'm punting 5 times as much away when I feel like it as what I have on me at all times.

A gun, even in the USA is a huge liability like owning a car or cattle. There are a lot of laws and regulations even in right to carry states. It’s a huge responsibility.

lol...

Your posting style and frequency is very similar to TBAB's, and wouldn't you know it, he just showed back up after a long sabbatical over in OOT. What a coincidence!

The defense closing is all like your honor let the record show I am not drunk but I’ve had a couple drinks
Judge: sustained. Please continue good sir.

Richards: first off my client deserves to be unmolested by midgets , I’m not saying he has it coming but .. look at that chain. The whole prosecution is hocus locus out of focus.
But more importantly my client is not one. Of those white supremadoodles. He came theee to do good. Look at all those fires. Now watch this guy who spent his childhood playing tony hawks pro skater instead of halo like my wonderful client. Look at him strike him with that deadly skateboard. Also, he’s not a supremadoodle. I rest my case.

Judge: let’s pose for a picture.

I know, but how many guns are registered and how many are not? I need to some research on this.
In Mexico there are no regulations, well officially, but nobody cares. You just give the cops a few pesos. I'm guessing most people in the US mexican-style it too.

washoe is not TBAB. He lives in a different country for a start. But I'll grant you that there are some similarities.

TBAB is the "loosen the belt" guy, when he was posting as sup_hezbollah, right? I think I have read several of his classic threads.

Who is that dude? I need to check him out real quick.

These goofballs ARE ALL OVER THE SHOP!

Actually, one of the biggest problems with having a shank on you at all times in prison is that when you pull it out, the guy takes it off you, and then you're really ****ed.

The prosecution is all like...
hello I would like to conduct myself with the cold calculation of a bond Villian.

Judge: objection get out of my court room you’re right on the line

Binger: ok so it’s unconstitutional to question the defendants silence .* Points gun at jury*

Binger: as I was saying what motivation did they have to attack Kyle rotten house? Hmm. Let’s think....

Judge: you’re right I. The line....

Binger: could it be because... Kyle was An active ****ing shooter who just killed someone???

That seems pretty relevant to me, no?

Judge: no

Bungee: rolls eyes. RosenBaum was just a little guy who made threats he couldn’t back up. You all know a guy like that. Kyle killed him because he is ... dun dum dun.. a murderer.

Judge: remember if you find him not guilty of first degree murder then you can’t find him guilty of second degree murder either.

Binger: lame.

a guy called

cupee is doing some inspired posting, the rest of y'all need to step it up