[QUOTE=Bobo Fett;18948235]Because they are convinced, like you, that all RNGs are evil. They have no evidence of this, why would they need any evidence that the matrix works properly?

TBH, I'm kind of surprised you need such evidence. Maybe we're having a positive effect on you. [

show how the matrix is 100 percent random and get more players .

simple if you ask me what you think gene?

actually, I have never before seen as many rigtards at the tables. the problem (for RDP) is that they still think it is rigged. the chatbox is a non-stop stream of complaints and berating.

I was set over setted in my first 30 hands of live poker.

I was playing with a group tonight on RealDeal. One of the players had won a freeroll and finished twice in the money yesterday and also finished in the money today. I think he had won about 40 euros from nothing. He has played live like I have. Despite his success in the freerolls he was still looking at things which he considered to be incorrect if the deal were truly random. So were some of the others who have taken some free money.

I think the general suggestion by shills and kids on poker forums is that people who think online to be rigged are loo o o o osers, which is usually the kids' answer to any criticism. On the contrary I have known winning players who have stopped playing online because they hate what they see. I have also known winning players online consider it necessary to adjust their play for the different odds they get. I find it is usually the winning players who complain more than the losing ones. Many have left online. They will be replaced by others, so it is no loss to online sites. They will have enough young players to replace the ones who have left. That is the correct market for online.

My opinion after playing in feerolls and some cash games is pretty much the same as on the first few days. It plays somewhere between real poker and an rng. Do I have any faith in it, or trust it, and will I put money in it? No way. Playing for fun is fine, but I shall stick to the real game. From what I have experienced and what other players have said, dominating hands seem to hold up more than on other online sites, but there are still a lot of big hand match ups so typical of an rng. There have certainly been too many suckouts for my liking.

I got dealt AK 5 times yesterday in half an hour, which imo is not a good sign. In the free play one player had aces 5 times in an hour and lost 4 of them heads up. My all in results have not been tremendously against the odds. I didn't bother taking any stats because I just intend playing for fun and never intended to put money in.

If anyone wants to try it they have feerolls so at least you don't have to risk any money. I shall probably play there occasionally when I am not playing poker, watching tv, or cooking a meal for my partner.

Cheerio and good luck at the live tables.

Kids and shills - keep up that hate and hysteria.

The irony is - whether this guy is for real or fake, he represents the demographic Real Deal decided to target with their business plan.

Hard to imagine why they has not been a roaring success...

I love this line, which you used before. Your powers of observation and mental ability are great indeed. You must be the smartest person in the world to observe some small samples of random processes and make such an evaluation.

You answered your own question

People like this can not sustain a business.

I usually have a hard taking anyone seriously when they refer to other posters as "kids". Those who do it repeatedly, I have very little time for.

So a lot of the players in the client chat are saying RDP rogged?

I for one am shocked.

As a wise man once said, sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.

I can think of several forms of wit that are lower.
Who was this "wise" man?

badbeatbandit, were you the one that said that to me at the AP or FTP micros a couple of months ago?


edit: it might have been PS.

man this soft launch is HOPPIN right now.... can't wait to see what happens when they're for real!

I still think it's pretty funny that Tom sent me the 15 euros that RDP owed me to my account on FTP for $19.

I know what you mean.

They're such children.

stopped by to say HI!

The million man march will be to the first regulated site...

It's already happened.

Look at the number of players on FT, PS and Party.

All regulated and all doing very nicely.

I played in a tournament in London last night and the owner of RDP was sat at the table. I beat his 99 with J4o and almost shouted 'RIGGED' but decided to be a bit more professional.

Has anyone seen this site or played it..it looks to me to be far better than the RNG sites and they even offer you only €50 euros to sontst anything and they will give you 100 times your stake back if your right, they reckon that confident in their unique software.

I had a look at youtube vid and its amazing, nothing like RNG and seems just like a real dealer and you can cut cards etc liek a real game..

I think its amazing but no expert but if offering that kind of deal surely it must be the best as no one else has offered this from what i see..

would someone a bit more expert than a casual player like me look into and see what they think and comment back to me or advise me on their thoughts... this is the site:

http://www.realdealpoker.com/

I know they have just set up but cant see anything else like it..

thoughts??

he is back!

he is back???

How many more ****ing shills are there going to be for this piss poor site?

not sure what shills means, i am signed up with Pokerstars and pkr but i just advice on this one and whether or not unique and worth signing up??

there is another thread going about this site where there are more details, but here are some cliffs:

a) a good RNG will be shuffling the cards just as well as the contraption used by RDP, if not better. In addition, the RNG will not be subject to mechanical failure.
There is no advantage to the machine, unless your religion obliges you to think that a RNG are evil for some reason.

b) A certain subset of the poker player community (the so-called "Rigtards") believe that all online poker sites are rigged (see rigged thread)
For some strange reason many rigtards are fixed on the notion that such rig is based in the RNG, which is an idiotic idea. (Obviously, the best place to rig, is After the shuffle, during the Deal.) These Rigtards think that just by replacing the RNG with a Rube Goldberg monster, all riggedness will be gone. In fact, It is just as easy (or difficult) to rig the deck after the machine has shuffled, as after a RNG has shuffled.

c) the site still has limited amounts of traffic, and the rigtards are already complaining that it is rigged, as was predicted on 2+2 all along.

d) that machines can only shuffle a low number of hands per hour so the sites use a vague system to overcome that , the so called "Deck Matrix". This looks a lot like a RNG to many, or at least like something that can be exploitable